HiClones

Any product description that contains any of the following are sus!

Molecular resonance.
Tuned energy.
Enhanced polarisation.
Magnetic integration.
Energy field. or......
Hiclone

I forgot the sarcasm emoticon LOL

Also waterless coolant LOL

Fills radiator Empies wallet faster than it fills anything

I had one on my RB30 Patrol years ago ...for a very short while (it came with car).
IMHO...it made an excellent Frisbee...and still hangs high up in a corner of my shed.
Wonder if its worth donating to some unsuspecting museum somewhere???

Cheers Keith

Have you ever read about the test done or know what mag it was ? It was 4X4 Australia I remember reading about it is that the particular mag your thinking off because they were not in the same category as 4WD action and not desperate for advertising dollars.

Plus you will get better value out of the contents of said can.

If you look in the throat of a Toyota air cleaner there is already a similar thing in there. I repiped my snorkel in a 100 ser TD and removed all of that and it actually went better with a larger pipe into the cleaner. The only thing a Hiclone does efficiently is lighten your wallet.

So you have tried a hiclone then is that what you base your statement on about them lightening your wallet or are you just following like a sheep. As far as the one in your Toyota is that the plastic type that toyota have been using for decades fitted on top of the filter and designed to help throw dust away from the filter so it drops into the dust bowl on the bottom of the filter ? If it is I would leave it in because it is there for a purpose and it works well in dusty conditions and helps to prolong the life of the air filter.

I work on the theory if these things were so good manufacturers would install them . It has yet to be proved a bit of bent tin can improve fuel consumption by 25%

Despite you installing 2 of them, Did you get 50 % improvement.

Like Sonic snake repellers I simply wouldnt waste my money.

Hiclones and Peter Brocks Polarisers are snake oil in a different packet.

A bit like taking part in a drug test Half are given sugar pills but still say they made a marvelous difference. Because they want to believe it does.

Half a litre difference over 100km is nothing and could be attributed to different temperatures, different traffic conditions and if thats all you get wouldnt be worth the money.

They say by up to 25% results will vary and they do. Fuel econ can and is related to different conditions etc as you say but I use to keep accurate records of fuel consumption and after I fitted it my consumption was constantly around 10.7 lph to 11.0 lph before that my average was around 11.5 lph running 33" tyres as well. Yes it's a small improvement but it's an improvement which ever way you want to look at it. My econ improved by 0.5 lph on my GQ patrol when I fitted a snorkel does that also mean it's a waste of money because some people don't get any results from there's or are not willing to try one because some one who knows nothing about them labelled them snake oil. I'll take 0.5 lph improvement any day over nothing at all it adds up in the long run . Also on the 12HT sahara a green light would come on the dash when you started to feel the turbo cut in at 1900 rpm that change to 1600 rpm. I also tried one in my 2001 Disco and didn't get any results a friend has one in his commodore and is getting around 80 km more from a tank of fuel another friend put one in a petrol 4cyl 4runner and it improved his power and econ another friend with a petrol Prado tried one a few yrs ago and it improved the power but it used 2 ltr per hundred more so after moving it around a couple of times to give it a chance to see if it would help econ which never happened he took it out and got a refund. So they don't work on ever car which they have always claimed econ and power figure will vary as well they do over exaggerate there capabilities and should be more conservative but if you are not willing to try one for your self and like most people are happy coming up with different excuses why you shouldn't then you will never know. I researched them for 4 yrs before I actually bought my first one so I didn't just jump into it. Give it a chance and try one it will cost you nothing if your not happy with it. But you need to keep actual fuel records over a period of time before hand and during so you have realistic evidence to go off. You could ask why don't all car manufactures fit better inlet or exhaust manifolds extractors or larger exhaust systems to their vehicles instead of their usual small crappy restrictive one's. So basically your also saying no vehicle should be fitted with any kind of aftermarket accessory because it wasn't good enough to be a factory fitted item yeah right that'll work sorry but "so much for you theory" don't think you put enough thought into that one buddy without being rude.

Basic airflow schematics will show that it is physically impossible for a Hiclone to actually increase the ' swirl ' [ as advertised ] as the airflow is already pressurised and spinning after the turbo , if anything the Hiclone will actually reduce and restrict the airflow..

It goes in before the turbo preferably 6" - 8" away if possible so as the air is drawn towards the turbo it has already started to spin which then aids the turbo and it will spin easier that would be the reason why I expect my turbo cut in 300 rpm earlier. I'm not an engineer or expert in this field but I figure and hopefully I'm explaining it correctly that Instead of a mas of disorganised air hitting the fins at once pushing against the blades while trying to get thru the turbo which would be generating some sort of resistance and effecting the performance of the turbo because the turbo is then trying to get that mass of air that just hit it and start in spinning which takes effort so the turbo would loose some of it's efficency. The hiclone starts the air spinning in the same direction before it reaches the turbo so it would reduce the force of the wind putting pressure on the blades by starting a vortex before the turbo and it would help the turbo so it can operate more efficiently. Hope I explained that right but I know it worked for my turbo cruiser I didn't imagine it and have nothing to gain by promoting something that didn't work for me. Like I mentioned before you can come up with all the reasons why it won't work, why you won't buy one the only way to have conclusive evidence of that is to try one yourself and be open minded but sceptical about it but don't be completley negative and dismiss it because you don't understand what it may or may be able to achieve when installed in some vehicles.

Batts , that was the most dribbling excuse for trying to explain an unworkable piece of plastic that I and many others have ever heard , now would you like to buy my Super Copper infused Magnetron that all you need to do is clamp onto your fuel line [ works on petrol and diesel / testing is being done on Avgas by Quantas {note spelling} as we speak ] Will sell it to you at 1/3 price with a 3 day return to sender / no question asked Guarantee for the extraordinary price of just $ 287.00 plus $13.00 post and handling …. YES Garanteed to increase [ oops sorry about that ] Decrease your fuel consumption by ?????? [ However much your brain decides to lessen your heavy right foot on the Go pedal after fitting my brilliant piece of technically useless aftermarket , big $$$ piece of JUNK ] ………….. If that does not suit you , I also have for sale a little bridge in SYdney or perhaps a "smallish" house on the waterfront on Sydney harbour , can't miss it has got big white sails and brilliant acoustics …...

Obviously you're just here for a sh#t stir I'm not that gullible

Thats just it Batt's , you obviously are that gullible seeing you believe in the magic of the Hiclone.