Lake Eyre SA

I have noted an ABC News article about Lake Eyre filling up

[ http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-01-02/lake-eyre-begins-filling-with-water-after-soaking-rains/7064248 ]

I want to keep abreast of the rains in the catchment area and am wanting to travel to Lake Eyre when it is full but I can't get there before end-January. So I am interested to know how full the lake becomes and how long the water remains in the lake. So if anyone has experience or "current 2016" knowledge of Lake Eyre I would appreciate your advice/information.

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Reply By: Life Member-Doug T NSW - Sunday, Jan 03, 2016 at 07:14

Sunday, Jan 03, 2016 at 07:14
Lake Eyre begins filling

Try that
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Reply By: Sigmund - Sunday, Jan 03, 2016 at 07:47

Sunday, Jan 03, 2016 at 07:47
Dunno how often this gets updated. One day old at the moment.

http://www.lakeeyreyc.com/Status/latest.html
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Reply By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Sunday, Jan 03, 2016 at 10:33

Sunday, Jan 03, 2016 at 10:33
Hi Neil

Do not get your hopes up too high as there is just not enough rain.
Yes there is the local run off from the local rains, but it will take a far more than that to fill the lake.

Do your research to find out how Lake Eyre fills, and it is not from local rain, but from floodwaters in central Queensland.

Have a great trip when you head off, and make sure you carry extra water, as it will be extremely hot out there in late January. Do yourself a life insurance favour and have either a HF radio or Sat phone.

Only last week 2 ladies broke down north of William Creek and walked during the night to get help from William Creek. If they walked during the day, they would have died, as we (South Australia) has just had our hottest December on record and up that way it has reached 47 already and we have not even reached our hottest months yet.

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Follow Up By: NeilM_BoabOZ - Sunday, Jan 03, 2016 at 11:31

Sunday, Jan 03, 2016 at 11:31
Stephen from Clare (wine country of SA !!)

Thanks for your response to my Forum post. I do appreciate your comments/advice, but I have to (humorously) say that I am a few steps ahead of you :)

On my tray I have 200+ litres of water and another 100+ litres on my trailer.

I have HF Radio, SatPhone, UHF Radio, several GPS/SOS devices and of course, the obligatory mobile phones.

I travel alone ... removed my passenger seat to fit my laptops and mapping devices. So I have an EPIRB at easy reach in the Cab, an EPIRB on the trailer and a PLB attached to my belt when I leave the vehicle.

So all-in-all I think I am pretty well ready for any emergency ... but again, I do appreciate your sensible comments/advice - not something that is universal on the Fourm !!!

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Follow Up By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Sunday, Jan 03, 2016 at 14:54

Sunday, Jan 03, 2016 at 14:54
Hi Neil

Great to hear that you are fully prepared. A lot of people with no outback experience head off out into the unknown, get into trouble and wonder why their mobile phone will not work in the middle of no where.

Safe travels and all the best for 2016



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Follow Up By: MUZBRY- Life member(Vic) - Sunday, Jan 03, 2016 at 15:42

Sunday, Jan 03, 2016 at 15:42
Gday
Neil also has a tow rope ....
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Follow Up By: NeilM_BoabOZ - Sunday, Jan 03, 2016 at 21:01

Sunday, Jan 03, 2016 at 21:01
Thanks MUZ for the reminder !! When I read your FollowUp at first I chuckled ... but then ... I belly laughed so hard it hurt !!! An inglorious grand entry to National Gathering 2014 will be long remembered. Good to hear from you Mate

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Reply By: Member - mark D18 - Sunday, Jan 03, 2016 at 16:35

Sunday, Jan 03, 2016 at 16:35
Neil
Its funny how when you asked a question about How quickly lake Eyre fills after rain and a forum member gives you a safety run down on the dangers of solo travel in the Summer months.
talk about transgressing from the original question.
Your reply was very diplomatic .

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Follow Up By: NeilM_BoabOZ - Sunday, Jan 03, 2016 at 21:11

Sunday, Jan 03, 2016 at 21:11
Mark ... I appreciate your sentiments and I don't want to be overly critical but ....

My reply was not "diplomatic" ... it was genuine because I did appreciate Stephen's advice.

He did not know if I was about to jump into my Ford Fiesta and race up to Lake Eyre with great enthusiasm and no experience or (as is my case) an experienced 4WDer fully prepared. To my mind Safety is # 1 Priority for off-road travel and so better to perhaps offend someone with sound, practical advice to keep out of harms way than to be reluctant with advice and perhaps, not avoid a tragedy.

Each of us on the Forum should respond as we believe best ... each to their own, Mate.

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Follow Up By: Member - mark D18 - Tuesday, Jan 05, 2016 at 10:40

Tuesday, Jan 05, 2016 at 10:40
Neil
That's fair enough
I have just been getting annoyed lately with SOME forum members not really reading what the question was , Stephen at least answered your Question and always has thoughtful advise .

Have a good trip


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Follow Up By: Allan B (Member, SunCoast) - Tuesday, Jan 05, 2016 at 13:57

Tuesday, Jan 05, 2016 at 13:57
Actually Mark, as for "reading what the question was", Neil asked ..... "how FULL the lake becomes", not how "quickly" it fills. doh
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Follow Up By: Member - mark D18 - Tuesday, Jan 05, 2016 at 16:32

Tuesday, Jan 05, 2016 at 16:32
Allan.

Same thing Allan.

Boy we are getting pedantic now.

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Reply By: Kenell - Sunday, Jan 03, 2016 at 19:37

Sunday, Jan 03, 2016 at 19:37
Neil,

The rains of the last 24 hours in western Qld might help a bit but there is a lot of dry country along the flow to soak it up. There is a fair time lag between flooding rains and arrival in the lake though. Worth watching the weather patterns over the next few days in Qld and western NSW. You might just have picked it right with your itinerary. Unfortunately any water that does hit will evaporate quickly because it is shallow, salty and the environment is hotter than hell. I saw it 5 or 6 years ago when the Cooper was in flood. It was brilliant although the bird life had dissipated by the time we got there. It was still around 70% filled.
Hope it all works in your favour mate you sound like a passionate bushy.

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Follow Up By: NeilM_BoabOZ - Sunday, Jan 03, 2016 at 21:36

Sunday, Jan 03, 2016 at 21:36
Thanks Ken for your comments.

I plan to leave Kalgoorlie about 20 January to traverse the Trans Australia Rail track and then (hopefully) on to Lake Eyre ... so I guess by the time I make to Mallee or thereabouts I will already have enjoyed the "hotter than hell" environment.

I am still looking for a fully ducted, refrigerated, reverse cycle airconditioner that weights less than 10kg and fits into a shoe box ... let me know if you come across one :) :)

Cheers ... NeilM
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Reply By: Sigmund - Monday, Jan 04, 2016 at 08:58

Monday, Jan 04, 2016 at 08:58
Well, the yachties updated their site yesterday again. So maybe it's time to scrape the barnacles off your trailer sailer.

The latest is heavy rain in most of the Eyre catchment with 600 mm depth in Eyre South. I assume that the rate of evaporation is ferocious but there'll also be serious replenishment.

I recently read Madigan's account of his travel down the east side when the Diamantina was in flood. Some camels it seems cope fine with sinking past their fetlocks in the mud and others don't. Bit like humans really.
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Follow Up By: Ron N - Monday, Jan 04, 2016 at 10:58

Monday, Jan 04, 2016 at 10:58
Sigmund - camels hate wet ground conditions, full stop.
My Dad ran a small camel team in the 1930's and he said the conditions they hated most was wet, greasy, firm clay.
Their legs spread on the greasy clay, and it hurts them no end.
He said they would bellow in pain, and protest and refuse to move, if they encountered greasy clay.

There's a high likelihood of more follow-up heavy rains this Summer across the Interior.
Once a weather pattern sets up for the season, it can keep up for an extended period of several months.
The weather pattern for this Summer is indicating repeated heavy rains through the Interior.

Wrightsair will keep you updated on the condition of Lake Eyre - the amount of water in it, is a big tourism feature for them.

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Follow Up By: Sigmund - Monday, Jan 04, 2016 at 11:43

Monday, Jan 04, 2016 at 11:43
Interesting; thanks Ron.

Madigan's problem was with the camels sinking in rather than slipping. The older and wiser animals would wait till they were unloaded and then roll on their sides to get out.
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Follow Up By: Nomadic Navara - Monday, Jan 04, 2016 at 22:38

Monday, Jan 04, 2016 at 22:38
See this link for flights from Birdsville.
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Reply By: Bob Y. - Qld - Monday, Jan 04, 2016 at 12:45

Monday, Jan 04, 2016 at 12:45
While the media have reported wide spread rain throughout Qld, Neil, there's no chance the lake will fill from this current change. Rain has been too patchy, and not on a widen enough scale to saturate the Lake Eyre catchment.

The Georgina, Diamantina and Barcoo Rivers are running, but am quite sure there's been very little flow in the Thomson. There needs to be a"team effort" from all these streams, if we're going to see the lake fill this year. There's a lot of big cracks to fill on the way to the Warburton Groove!

After you visit at the end of the month, I'd suggest you plan on a return visit, in at least 3 months time, to check it again.

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Reply By: Sigmund - Thursday, Jan 07, 2016 at 04:55

Thursday, Jan 07, 2016 at 04:55
Rock found in L Eyre that's older than the earth -
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Reply By: Teraa - Thursday, Jan 07, 2016 at 21:39

Thursday, Jan 07, 2016 at 21:39
Well all I can say right now is get yourself the weekend Australian because you might be in for a good trip it's just getting about that you might be a bit of a burden.if it says closed do us all a favour and don't got there.
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Follow Up By: NeilM_BoabOZ - Thursday, Jan 07, 2016 at 22:55

Thursday, Jan 07, 2016 at 22:55
Teraa ... I am confused with your reference to The Weekend Australian "because you might be in for a good trip" ... please clarify ... that would be appreciated.

I well know that there will be problems "getting about" which is why I am doing my research and thorough planning before I depart, that is, if I do finally decide to drive the Strzelecki Track, the Birdsville Tracks and Kati Thanda-Lake Eyre National Park exploration. If my research and trip planning tells me that the drive is a "no go" then that's what I do ... "no go"

But please, don't imply me as a fool ... if a road, track or trail is closed then I don't need anyone to tell me that you don't proceed any further until it is opened. TKS

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Follow Up By: Teraa - Friday, Jan 08, 2016 at 09:13

Friday, Jan 08, 2016 at 09:13
The weekend Australian will have up to date information regarding the Lake but still I'd recommend a flight to see all the glory.
Don't take the road closure personally we have had the main track destroyed just recently not by people caught on the track but purposely travelling on it when closed.

I think too when you say will the Lake be full well that is a big one but there are more times than not the Lake has good coverage of water still a stunning site but by air. You'll notice nearly all the media shots will be by air. A Jan. trip will be bloody hot but you would catch the water before it is gone.
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