Carrying spare on roofrack

Yeah that's what I more or less do - lift it onto the top of the spare tyre on back door of the Prado then more of less slide it up and onto the roof rack from there i.e. I dont lift it the entire way. So if you can get it up there in stages so as not to blow a valve.

I also use a "J" bolt (Rhino Rack version). Has never come close to working loose. Use to zip tie the wing nut so it couldn't work loose but last few times haven't bothered - just tighten it properly the first time.

Cheers
Greg

Bob,


This might be a cheaper alternative

Regards

Now that's the duck's nuts, Gramps. Think that other one was close to $100!!!

Might have to head back to Bunnings myself. :-)
Thanks,
Bob

Hahaha yep, it's been my experience that Rhino products are well named.

Regards

Buy some tyre pliers and just carry a carcass.

Thought of that too but how much extra weight is that gear be worth lookiing into be easy putting tyre up without rim just chuck it up ha ha ha

G'day, if only carrying a tyre put a tube inside and inflate, keeps the dust and rubbish out. Cheers, John

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I use one of those 3 point ratchet straps that Bob showed. Easy to attach and very secure.
Think it came from ARB some years ago.

I carried a tube, but not inside the tyre.
The garden hose coiled up nicely in there.
Paul

Getting back to Bobs post about the three way straps by Rhino.
I have used one of these for numerous trips now, VERY relibale and straps are evenly set for spare wheels, unlike the Grunt (which might be worth a look if very cheap and adaptable).
However, the Rhinow spare wheel strap is way under $100, in fact they are $48 and well worth it . . .
Rhino Spare Wheel Strap

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Mine is made by Just Straps and listed at $35.
Just Straps have a large range of errr, just straps. lol

Agree with Mike,
Just fit a dual rear wheel carrier. Why make life difficult?

Agree but its just a second spare tyre not a new one.Wind resistance fuel usage I not sure it would make that much difference .Fittting wheel carrier on back is not cheap and would not be great for suspension as very heavy plus the wheel.I not like idea of anything on roof but thats my last resort as every soace taken up by othrr gear.The old Landrovers used to have spare on bonnet ..chheers respect what you saying .Its harder travelling with 3 people before on my own stuck spate upright beh8nd passenger seat coup0le occy straps

It's really irrelevant whether the tyre is new or not, still weigh about the same.
Dual rear wheel carrier and rear bumper fitted approx. $ 1500.00.
Wind resistance and lower fuel economy will be negligible with tyre on roof.
UV exposure will also occur when mounted on rear, probably worse, as top exposed more than bottom. Rubbish bag wheel cover solves the problem.
Load on suspension will be much the same whether on roof or on rear.
How often do you need to check tyre pressure on your spares?
Most 4wd roofs are certified for 200kg loads. Agreed that the less weight on top the less load there will be over corrugations. I regularly carry 100lt water and 100lt fuel on top with recovery gear in Al toolbox with no issues. Vehicle has never fallen over and roof has never collapsed!
Simpson desert, Gunbarrel, CSR, Gibb River, Anne Beadell, Connie Sue and Cape York all from Perth.
You just need to drive to the vehicles capabilities.

Hiya DingoBlue agree with everything .What 4x4 you driving..I was always Landcriuser fan as worked with them in Simpson.Did Tanami and GRR and Bungle Bungles and Coburg Peninsula with 60 series and 80series Cleb Track and Strezlecki track.All were petrol no mods .Could not afford Diesel.But after driving 2wheel drive Hilux in remote northern Thailand I like the Lux so bought a SR5 .So organising a trip is all new on it .Had in down pay in L.Cruisers and was on my own .Now got son and wife and can n9t take back seats out and ise passenger seat for all my camera gear and clothes.Roofrack only option .Got offered rear wheel carrier for 1400 same guy sold me brand new ARB draw sysrem for 800 should have made deal with him but already got a bloody bargain .Cheers Hope I can emjoy the tracks as seems since 1997 many things have changed far as camping for free especially up the Kimberleys cheers

,Hi Stephen,
Early travels in 60 series diesel Sahara. Mid life crisis and had to trade the old girl in for a later model.
Now pilot a 105 series diesel with aftermarket turbo and front and rear auto lockers.
Goes anywhere, bit heavy on fuel but good solid tourer.
Kimberley is still ok for free camping. You don't need to listen to the armchair experts, just get your research done before you go.

So Kimberelys still ok not over run by nice 4x4s.Heard Jacks Waterhole closed that was my favourite co only 5bucks and free kayaks .Also is Mitchell Fslls now NP. When I was there freecamping and some dude setup shonky camp ground up coast from Kalumbaru ,I remember extension cords everywhere some people had huge freezers on back of trailers .I got asked why I not fish I said because it will let some fish live.They were catching many rare species of fish and freezing them .. beautiful.area loved it ...

Just pop into the tourist traps and camp elsewhere. Mitchell Falls is a problem as they have a captive market althogh you can sneak off the track along the way.

When i helped fit a MCC rear bar to my mates HZJ105 'Same Vehicle as mine'.We weighted the components before hand , 75kg rear bar, 12kg each arms , 52kg each nitto trail grapplers 285x75x16 .tyre on gxl rims and @10 kg codan autotune and mount, total 213 kg . Thats a hell of a lot of weight hanging over the tail end considering we both have the 190litre l/ranger aux tanks /drawers fitted at the rear. In my case even with the gvm upgrade it would put me well overweight when loaded for a remote trip. I will stick to my single kaymar on standard plastic bar and my 2nd 285 x16 fits nicely behind front passenger seat. Image the stress on my chassis with a dual carrier replacement heading to Geosurveys Hill from the colson track

Maurice,
Do whatever makes you happy.My experience with dual wheel carriers on both my 60 series and the 105 is that there is absolutely no issues with the chassis, having travelled numerous outback tracks over the past 20 years.

Too late for me I am 54 son only 5.5 and already got hernia..ha ha ha
Have to agree all that gear on the back must be hard on suspension and pain everytime you want access back of vehicle.Some also put bike too.I be scared I would back into something or somebody forgetting the extra overhang ..cheers

I'm 76. My son who is 45 puts the tyre, complete with wheel and with a tyre cover on it, on the pack rack for me and doesn't even draw a deep breath. I put it there myself 2 years ago but I think age is catching up a bit.

I have put a permanent floor in my pack rack using that rubber floor matting that fits together like a jigsaw puzzle, secured to the rack bars with cable ties. It also shades the roof of the wagon. I have the same material on the floor of my wagon as well and have used it in the floor of bins and cupboards in my caravan. Works well.

The tyre, secured by 2 ratchet straps, goes on the front and 4 10 litre jerry cans go across the back. All within designed weight tolerance.

I think the rounded front of the tyre probably acts as a bit of a foil to break the wind before it hits the pop top van.

Cheers,

Kevin

Thanks Kevin wow good you still go traveling .My ex mum in law always said I was spring chicken compared to her.You make me feel like weak baby chook ha ha ha Like those Challengers but stuck with Toyota Landcruisers just habit.Wanted to buy Dmax but dealer an idiot so bought secondhand Hilux..so I new to them and figuring out how to carry everything to go bush .Sounds good how you did it and any shade is good when bush cheers

We only have the spare on the roof rack for trips. Around town it comes off. We havent had any rubbing on our recent 11,000 km trip.

Must correct my earlier statement and its a J bolt from Rhino. Never works loose and I mount it forward on the roof rack so it sits on top of the roof rack mounts and this places the weight in between the axles.

Nice work .Troopy very high but big inside No room for spare inside.I used take seats out of 60 series Wagon and use occy strap behind passenger seat...

Yep!

That is the way that the "Outback Guru" Russel Coight does it.

Cheers

Anthony

Hiya 2517 I actually thought of that but wouuld damage bonnet on Hilux ..What about repair tools are they easy to use on alloy rim.Then would only need tyre and no rim cheers

No-one has yet outlined the simplest solution! - get the wife to put the spare up on the roof! [;-)

Cheers, Ron.

My first wife from Nepal maybe could have used to carry 60kg on her back.Second wife Thai do you think she could multitask phone in one hand spare tyre in other ..ha ha ha

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