Furthest point from the sea

Submitted: Friday, Mar 04, 2016 at 10:31
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I reckon the furthest point from the sea in Aust. is Cruises Tank, 25.44/141.69, 9klm SE of the junction of the Diamantina and Birdsville Development Rds. About 855klm from each of Pt Augusta, the mouth of McCreek in the Gulf, and the Styx River mouth between Mackay and Rocky.
Anyone been there?
BTW wikipedia needs correcting, the position that is mentioned there (near Derwent just Nth of the Gary Jn Rd 10 k E of Papunya) is the centre from the furthest points of land, eg Cape York, Wilsons Prom, and maybe Windy Hbr in the SW.
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Reply By: Bob Y. - Qld - Friday, Mar 04, 2016 at 12:12

Friday, Mar 04, 2016 at 12:12
I have Bruce, a number of times.

It is in Plains Pdk on South Galway station. Thought I might have had a photo of it, but a quick look didn't bring up anything. Do have this photo(of a photo), of a bronco branding panel, that I recall is just south of the tank(dam).



Glenn McCamely is the manager, if you wanted permission to go in there. Ph. 07 46564 985

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Follow Up By: Member - brucek - Friday, Mar 04, 2016 at 13:52

Friday, Mar 04, 2016 at 13:52
Thanks Bob Y.
Certainly know what to look for now.
Just caught my interest at this stage.
Might be able to include it in a Cameron's Corner trip.
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Follow Up By: ian.g - Friday, Mar 04, 2016 at 15:09

Friday, Mar 04, 2016 at 15:09
Been there a few times myself also.

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Follow Up By: mike39 - Friday, Mar 04, 2016 at 15:31

Friday, Mar 04, 2016 at 15:31
It would be remiss of me if I didn't mention that Eromanga is the town furthest from the sea.
Not much chance of opal noodling out there anymore, but the dinosaur fossil excavation on Plevna Downs is pretty impressive.
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Reply By: Member - DickyBeach - Friday, Mar 04, 2016 at 13:00

Friday, Mar 04, 2016 at 13:00
Refer to:http://www.ga.gov.au/scientific-topics/national-location-information/dimensions/centre-of-australia-states-territories for the following:

Centre of gravity method

More than 50,000 digitised points representing the coastline of mainland Australia were assigned a unit weight. The moments were calculated assuming equal units of latitude and longitude, the latter varying with the cosine of latitude. So what does all this mean? Imagine you had a perfect cut-out of Australia, with thousands of tiny weights distributed along the perimeter. The centre would be the place where you could balance the cut-out on a pin, and it would be perfectly horizontal. The results for this method would be:

23° 07' 00" South, 132° 08' 00" East; position on SF53-13 Hermannsburg 1:250 000 and 5351 Glen Helen 1:100 000 scale maps.
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Follow Up By: ExplorOz Team - Michelle - Friday, Mar 04, 2016 at 15:48

Friday, Mar 04, 2016 at 15:48
Yes that would be the Lambert Centre - been there. See pics in Places and info.
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Follow Up By: Member - brucek - Friday, Mar 04, 2016 at 20:55

Friday, Mar 04, 2016 at 20:55
Thanks DickyBeach I stand corrected.
You are right
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Reply By: ExplorOz Team - Michelle - Friday, Mar 04, 2016 at 14:57

Friday, Mar 04, 2016 at 14:57
We need to get this into Places! I will add a new page using the coordinates but if someone has a pic to upload that would be great. Give me a few minutes and I'lll create the Place page. It will not link automatically by name Cruises Tank without a pic.
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Reply By: 9900Eagle - Friday, Mar 04, 2016 at 15:04

Friday, Mar 04, 2016 at 15:04
Bruce, drop into Eromanga as well, then you can be in the town farthest from the sea in all directions. It is a nice little town and you can get 24hr fuel at the IOR truck stop, it takes efptos.

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Follow Up By: Sawtybt - Friday, Mar 04, 2016 at 15:14

Friday, Mar 04, 2016 at 15:14
Here is a shot from our trip in 2011..........
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Reply By: Member - Boobook - Friday, Mar 04, 2016 at 15:53

Friday, Mar 04, 2016 at 15:53
According to Geoscience Australia, who really should know these things, the furthest point from the sea is near Glen Helen, 1000k or so to the west of there.

Furthest point from the coastline

A series of concentric circles drawn on transparent material were moved over the top of a 1:5 million scale map of Australia until one circle was found to touch the coast at three points. Think of it as the largest perfect circle that could be drawn anywhere inside Australia that only just touches the coastlines. The centre of the circle was then marked and the coordinates scaled from the map. This method resulted in a good agreement with the centre of gravity procedure. This is remarkable, and due to Australia's shape rather than any general rule of correlation between the two methods.

23° 02' 00" South, 132° 10' 00" East; position on SF53-13 Hermannsburg 1:250 000 and 5351 Glen Helen 1:100 000 scale maps.


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Follow Up By: Member - brucek - Friday, Mar 04, 2016 at 20:54

Friday, Mar 04, 2016 at 20:54
Boobook and DickyBeach are right.
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Reply By: Steve in Kakadu - Friday, Mar 04, 2016 at 15:58

Friday, Mar 04, 2016 at 15:58
The 5 Geographical centres of Australia
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Follow Up By: Member - brucek - Friday, Mar 04, 2016 at 21:00

Friday, Mar 04, 2016 at 21:00
Excellent.
It sounds like a good trip.
Perhaps we should include Eromanga and Cruises Tank for good measure and for a laugh.
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Reply By: Member - brucek - Friday, Mar 04, 2016 at 18:20

Friday, Mar 04, 2016 at 18:20
Well all this is a surprise!
Eromanga does not have the claim to fame for the town furthest from the sea since it is only about 795klms. Presumptions!!
I then did a calc and search using a compass and came up with Cruises Tank. Smack! wrong!
Papunya is the town furthest from the sea being about 920 klms from the Gulf/Queens Channel NT(Victoria River)/G.A.Bight.
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Follow Up By: Member - Boobook - Saturday, Mar 05, 2016 at 11:59

Saturday, Mar 05, 2016 at 11:59
Bruce, apart from the fact that Eromanga seemed to incorrectly anoint it's self as the furthest place from the sea, despite what you may have learned in scouts, you can't use a compass to measure distance on maps that cover a large area like Australia due to projection errors. All maps have projection errors. Many Australian maps use Mercator or Lambert projections and do not represent EW and NS correctly. It does work fine on maps for walking etc as the errors are minimal.

In other words, the E-W distances at the top of Australia are different to those at the bottom of the maps. NS will be different again.

This is a great, interesting website to show the distortions that we normally ignore. Move Australia around. Also check out Greenland, normally it looks about as big as Africa, or bigger than Australia but it isn't even as big as WA. 3 of them could fit in Australia.

The subject of projections is very interesting.
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Follow Up By: Member - brucek - Saturday, Mar 05, 2016 at 13:32

Saturday, Mar 05, 2016 at 13:32
Thanks Boobook, Yes, I was aware of that and didn't have anyway to easily overcome it.
The distances I quoted are from Google maps "measure distance" tool which gives a straight line measure. One might hope the Google maps make allowances for projection.
Papunya is the nearest settlement to the "furthest from sea" co-ordinates as per the info that you and DickyBeach supplied. i.e. 23.07S & 132.08E or near vicinity.
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Reply By: ExplorOz Team - Michelle - Friday, Mar 04, 2016 at 19:44

Friday, Mar 04, 2016 at 19:44
from the Lambert Centre page in Places.
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Follow Up By: Member - brucek - Friday, Mar 04, 2016 at 20:52

Friday, Mar 04, 2016 at 20:52
Yes. This is only 720klm from the G.A.Bight though.
Therefore not furthest from the sea.
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Reply By: Ozi M - Friday, Mar 04, 2016 at 20:31

Friday, Mar 04, 2016 at 20:31
Guess they will have to change their sign then

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Follow Up By: Member - brucek - Friday, Mar 04, 2016 at 21:16

Friday, Mar 04, 2016 at 21:16
What!! -and destroy their tourism?
Perhaps we can wake a dinosaur or bring their sea back.
The Quilpie coucil proudly announce the "fact", as well as the service station in town.
I bet at least one of the pubs make a claim as well.
The Courier Mail blew up the idea in 1985, maybe nobody gets it out there.
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Reply By: Member - Rod N (QLD) - Friday, Mar 04, 2016 at 21:00

Friday, Mar 04, 2016 at 21:00
Here is one that claims to be the furthermost point from the capital cites, it was termed Centroid 14.
From message Centroid 14 "Centroid 14 is located at Co-ordinates are Lat 25 deg 17 min 50 sec and long 128 deg 31 min 58 sec. This will put you on a spot that is 1441.7 kilometers from Perth, Darwin and Adelaide."
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Follow Up By: Member - brucek - Friday, Mar 04, 2016 at 21:10

Friday, Mar 04, 2016 at 21:10
Another on to visit!
Just checked where it might be.
4klm south of the Len Beadell Marker on the Great Central Rd.
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Follow Up By: Nomadic Navara - Saturday, Mar 05, 2016 at 00:05

Saturday, Mar 05, 2016 at 00:05
Quote "Eromanga does not have the claim to fame for the town furthest from the sea since it is only about 795klms."

The actual claim is that it is the town furthest from the sea by road. Who ever approved that sign did not include the full story.
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Follow Up By: Member - brucek - Saturday, Mar 05, 2016 at 16:19

Saturday, Mar 05, 2016 at 16:19
"By road" doesn't stand up either.
Alice Springs is further.
Then one gets into defining roads. !!!
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Reply By: Paul E6 - Saturday, Mar 05, 2016 at 01:26

Saturday, Mar 05, 2016 at 01:26
Kimba in SA says its half way across oz - but it ain't!
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Follow Up By: Member - brucek - Saturday, Mar 05, 2016 at 14:02

Saturday, Mar 05, 2016 at 14:02
Do you know on what basis they make that claim?
It is about half way from Brisbane to Perth via Hay and Mildura (within 50klms)
and within 77klms of halfway via BrokenHill.
I can't imagine any other basis for a claim.
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