Explorer v Cruiser

Submitted: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 at 18:18
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Ok whats going on, i want to know when and where this challenge is going to happen. Eric, TheUndertaker, lets get it on.

Baz.

cluk, cluk, cluk, cluk, cluk, cluk.
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Reply By: GOB & denny vic member - Wednesday, May 26, 2004 at 18:47

Wednesday, May 26, 2004 at 18:47
baz whats this cluk cluk sounds like one of them getting home

LOL

steve
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Follow Up By: Baz (NSW) - Wednesday, May 26, 2004 at 19:18

Wednesday, May 26, 2004 at 19:18
Steve, just made a new batch of houch !!!!!!
smooooooth.
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Reply By: TheUndertaker - Wednesday, May 26, 2004 at 20:17

Wednesday, May 26, 2004 at 20:17
Baz ,,like it or lump it ,,Eric our esteemed forum member has declined in the fact that He did raise the chalenge and upon my reply that 1doz 99 grange at Landcruiser mt park Queens b/day w/end is not Convenient for his tojo's social life ,, he go's and boasts he just bought a nissan that is overly modified for rock crawling ect , the man /fool would not know a "GRANGE" or the value of such if it hit him on the a-rse........ latest survey on HONEST professions no1 thru to 25 puts our beloved Eric "a car sales man" at no 24 ,,, 1point above politicians,,, 22 points behind policemen, 21points behind nurses and laugh if you wish??????? 20 places behind publicans,,,,,,, the man ,,,if he is game enough to front up , on the day may learn what a FORD can do ,rather than dribble hisbleep-um.
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Reply By: TheUndertaker - Wednesday, May 26, 2004 at 20:29

Wednesday, May 26, 2004 at 20:29
And a postscrip,, 99 grange is all shiraz ,,,,, rec retail $399 per ....... so Eric come on up ,, 12x $399 = $4888 ,,,,, Eric methinks your a pussy or a dribbiling USED CAR SALESMAN..
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Thursday, May 27, 2004 at 01:13

Thursday, May 27, 2004 at 01:13
Hes not a car salesman, hes a car wholesaler, whole different kettle of fish..

I'll put my house on either his 80 or GQ against your exploder anywhere anyday..

Smartbar LMAO.... says it all..

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Reply By: Aandy(WA) - Wednesday, May 26, 2004 at 20:46

Wednesday, May 26, 2004 at 20:46
Undertaker I think you'll find that in 4wd areas the Explorer is very much in the minority compared to Landcruisers and Patrols.The reason is of course quite simple - cruisers and patrols have been in the field for much longer than the explorer and have won a reputation for reliability and capability. Many people are put off going for Ford because of the legendary unreliability and poor build quality of their sedans. Whether or not the low standard has been carried over to the 4wd I don't actually know but like most I'm not prepared to take the risk. If I was short of cash I guess I would be tempted but while I can afford to buy at the top end of the range I will.
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Follow Up By: TheUndertaker - Wednesday, May 26, 2004 at 22:36

Wednesday, May 26, 2004 at 22:36
Aaaandy ,check your facts, the ford explorer has been the no 1 selling 4x4 WORLD WIDE since 1997 , in the scheme of sales AUS is but an annoying pimple on any vehicle makers butt.
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Follow Up By: Baz (NSW) - Wednesday, May 26, 2004 at 22:37

Wednesday, May 26, 2004 at 22:37
I will not say that the Explorer is better than the cruiser or patrol off road but i will say this as for reliability the Ford Explorer is one of the most reliable 4x4s in the world it has been proven world wide this is why it is the largest selling 4x4 on the planet out doing it's nearest rival by nearly 50%, the Explorer is the bench mark for 4x4 vehicles of it's type, it was the first of it's type and all others are just copies, it's bad reputation was because of a type of Firestone tyre exploding under certain conditions due to weak side walls, no fault of the car so if you are going to bag a car do some research first. I'm not saying this because i own an Explorer, i know the limitation of my car, it's the truth, oh by the way my Explorer is the model with 16" rims it did not have the tyre exploding problems reported by the media, that was the model with 15" rims. Oh and another thing the Ford Explorer was built in the USA not Australia like the falcon, which i assume your refering to when you say thier sedans. The Ford Explorer was built for a certain market it's a highway cruiser with off road capibility, we only get one of 5 differant models, it is also available in the F250 size 2wd and 4wd, diesel and V8 !!!

Baz.
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Follow Up By: Baldrick - Thursday, May 27, 2004 at 08:16

Thursday, May 27, 2004 at 08:16
Amazing what you can do with statistics.

The Explorer is the best selling 4x4 in the USA (world's biggest market) but nowhere else. The Freelander is the best selling 4x4 in Europe but that doesn't mean it's better off-road than a Landcruiser!
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Follow Up By: Baz (NSW) - Thursday, May 27, 2004 at 10:56

Thursday, May 27, 2004 at 10:56
Baldrick, i think you should read my post again there is nothing in there that said the Explorer was better off road than the Landcruiser. Quote : ( I will not say that the Explorer is better than the cruiser or patrol off road ) End quote !!!

Baz.
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Reply By: Member - Bruce (San Diego) - Thursday, May 27, 2004 at 06:56

Thursday, May 27, 2004 at 06:56
Baz,

You are sorta right about the Explorer, The reason there are so many about here in the USA is the price compared to say and Landcruiser they are about half the price.

The US market is very varies and I would guess that 99.9999% of Explorers never see an offroad or rough road situation as in Australia. Many 4WD's are used however in ice/snow situations which a great part of the USA is subjected to during the winter.

Explorers here come in a 2 door or 4 door models with 6 or V8 motors 2 or 4WD

The next model up is the Expedition which would be a little bigger than an L/C and comes with two size V8's

The largest on is the excursion which is a MONSTER and comes with an engine option of V8, V10 or I think is a 7.9l V8 Diesel

Bruce
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Follow Up By: Baz (NSW) - Thursday, May 27, 2004 at 08:22

Thursday, May 27, 2004 at 08:22
Thanks Bruce, sorry i got on my soap box but it erks me when they bag a vehicle because of a reputation it does not deserve, Ford carry on what Henry Ford designed the car for, a vehicle for the people, cheap enough and reliable for the average worker to afford.

Baz.
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Reply By: Member Eric - Thursday, May 27, 2004 at 09:43

Thursday, May 27, 2004 at 09:43
I thank you for your kind words , I am glad you know me so well . Also really glad you cleared up what a Grange is , since I thought it was a car . You must be a very well liked person with that awsom personality of yours.
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Follow Up By: Baz (NSW) - Thursday, May 27, 2004 at 11:06

Thursday, May 27, 2004 at 11:06
Eric, not my words i've meet you, only briefly but we have meet you do remember don't you, i think your a nice bloke even if you do forget me.lol.
Oh if you let us i'm trying to see if i can get down for queens b/day weekend, that is if you don't mind a Explorer tagging along.

Baz.
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Reply By: Al & Mrs Al (Vic) - Thursday, May 27, 2004 at 17:05

Thursday, May 27, 2004 at 17:05
See what happens when boys want to start comparing their toys....it ends in tears..

Lyn
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Follow Up By: Member Eric - Thursday, May 27, 2004 at 17:51

Thursday, May 27, 2004 at 17:51
I thought it was all in good fun till someone started the abuse . As you know Lyn , when I come accross a idiot , I tend to walk away
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Reply By: Baz (NSW) - Thursday, May 27, 2004 at 20:03

Thursday, May 27, 2004 at 20:03
Shame, could of been a good fun EO get together, oh well maybe some other time, ego's are a funny thing, Quote:( Ego is a dirty word ) end quote. SKYHOOKS.

Baz.
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Follow Up By: Member Eric - Thursday, May 27, 2004 at 22:16

Thursday, May 27, 2004 at 22:16
Who said we wernt still going out on a EO day , nothing could stop that
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