Super singles

Submitted: Saturday, Mar 26, 2016 at 19:34
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Hi all,
Having just picked up an Isuzu FTS800 4wd coach to convert to a camper I'm wondering where I can get super singles for it. I can get plenty of them if I had an NPS300 or a canter.
They are around as I see them on trucks now and then but they all say they were on them when they bought them.
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Reply By: MUZBRY- Life member(Vic) - Saturday, Mar 26, 2016 at 19:44

Saturday, Mar 26, 2016 at 19:44
Gday Dave
Just go into Google and that should put you on the rite track.
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Follow Up By: Life Member TourBoy, Bundaberg - Saturday, Mar 26, 2016 at 20:07

Saturday, Mar 26, 2016 at 20:07
Can only find the smaller ones
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Reply By: Peter_n_Margaret - Saturday, Mar 26, 2016 at 19:57

Saturday, Mar 26, 2016 at 19:57
What is the spec you need?

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Follow Up By: Life Member TourBoy, Bundaberg - Saturday, Mar 26, 2016 at 20:07

Saturday, Mar 26, 2016 at 20:07
Truck has a GVM of 13500kg
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Reply By: Ron N - Saturday, Mar 26, 2016 at 19:58

Saturday, Mar 26, 2016 at 19:58
Tourboy - Try All-Terrain Warriors in QLD, or Mullins Wheels in SA.

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Follow Up By: Life Member TourBoy, Bundaberg - Saturday, Mar 26, 2016 at 20:08

Saturday, Mar 26, 2016 at 20:08
They only go up to 6000kg, my GVM is 13,500kg
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie - Saturday, Mar 26, 2016 at 21:27

Saturday, Mar 26, 2016 at 21:27
I think you'll find that the rating of the tyres is PER TYRE.

Therefore, if you can find tyres rated for 6,000kg you should be fine....4 x 6,000 = 24,000kg. Your GVM is "only" 13,500kg so you're all good with 6,000kg rated tyres.

My Silverado has a GVM of 4490kg, but the tyres I use are "only" rated for 1,600kg (each).

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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie - Saturday, Mar 26, 2016 at 21:33

Saturday, Mar 26, 2016 at 21:33
http://www.truckworld.com.au/New-Truck-Details.aspx?1&make=75&id=35&dgp=1&dlrgroup=2&r6

Scroll down and have a look at the tyre specs.... 5,600kg front and 10,600kg rear.

So your minimum tyre rating needs to be 5,300kg to cover the 10,600kg rating of the rear AXLE.

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Follow Up By: Ron N - Saturday, Mar 26, 2016 at 22:33

Saturday, Mar 26, 2016 at 22:33
Dave - A third of the way down the following ATW page link, under "ATW 4x4 Truck Accessories", you will find - "Single Wheel Conversions for MAN, Isuzu FTS, and others."

There's also pics of an 8 tonne Hino 4WD bus conversion (same size as the FTS800) from ATW - so I think they can handle your request - unless they have downsized seriously in recent times.

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Follow Up By: Life Member TourBoy, Bundaberg - Sunday, Mar 27, 2016 at 09:07

Sunday, Mar 27, 2016 at 09:07
Thanks guys, I called ATW and they said the rims (not the tyres) need to be over 6000kg for the FTS and they don't do them.
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Reply By: MUZBRY- Life member(Vic) - Saturday, Mar 26, 2016 at 20:54

Saturday, Mar 26, 2016 at 20:54
Gday
Talk to Narelle at 03 97947199
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Reply By: The Bantam - Sunday, Mar 27, 2016 at 00:49

Sunday, Mar 27, 2016 at 00:49
Another reasonable option is to get a GVM reduction ..... most motorhome conversion go nowhere near the designed maximum load for the vehicle.

many coasters for example get GVM reduction to bring them in on a passenger car licence.

many trucks that do not carry maximum designed load get GVM reduced to minimise regestration and allow lower class licencees to drive.

It occurs to me you have a maximum capacity 2 axle medium rigid ....... you will probably weigh well under the vehicles designe capacity when complete.

So a GVM reduction may get you into a more common and cheaper tyre .... it may also get you into a lower rego brabcket.

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Follow Up By: Life Member TourBoy, Bundaberg - Sunday, Mar 27, 2016 at 09:10

Sunday, Mar 27, 2016 at 09:10
I 'm not too worried about a GVM reduction as the rego for a motorhome in QLD as it's classed as a specific use vehicle is $550 pa, cheaper than the wifes mazda 6
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Follow Up By: The Bantam - Sunday, Mar 27, 2016 at 12:04

Sunday, Mar 27, 2016 at 12:04
but it would get you into a more common and possibly cheaper tyre.
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Reply By: 9900Eagle - Sunday, Mar 27, 2016 at 08:42

Sunday, Mar 27, 2016 at 08:42
Dave,
give Michelin Australia a call, they have been big supporters of super singles and should be able to give you your answer. Also contact bridgestone, Toyo, Kumho, Hankook etc.

Not going to get into the arguments for for against them, as like the flip of a coin there is the good and the not so good but just have a look around at the amount of trucks/ trailers using them.

I actually can see benefit with you using them in your application and btw what price do the super single wheels cost for your unit.
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Follow Up By: Life Member TourBoy, Bundaberg - Sunday, Mar 27, 2016 at 09:11

Sunday, Mar 27, 2016 at 09:11
Thanks, it's not the tyres I'm worried about I can get them anywhere, it's getting the rims that's problematic.
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Follow Up By: 9900Eagle - Sunday, Mar 27, 2016 at 11:36

Sunday, Mar 27, 2016 at 11:36
Dave, try giving Rimtec a call (07) 4842 5304, they maybe able to find a source.
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Reply By: Kanga1 - Sunday, Mar 27, 2016 at 08:48

Sunday, Mar 27, 2016 at 08:48
Hi mate, All Terrain Warriors in Queensland would be worth a shout, we have their singles on a Fuso. Cheers, Kanga.
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Follow Up By: Life Member TourBoy, Bundaberg - Sunday, Mar 27, 2016 at 09:12

Sunday, Mar 27, 2016 at 09:12
Thanks, no good there. The canter and NPS rims are 16" I need around 22.5.
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Follow Up By: Ron N - Sunday, Mar 27, 2016 at 11:43

Sunday, Mar 27, 2016 at 11:43
Dave, try Carroll Tyres in Rocklea or Yatala. I still think Mullins Wheels will be worth a try as well.

Are your FTS800 rims, 8 stud? If so, there's 2 rims for sale on Gumtree - but they are in Geraldton, W.A.!

I also notice that the Gumtree seller is talking about different rim offset between front and rear rims - so it would pay to check the stamped information on your rims to see if that is the case. If it is, you would need 2 spare rims.

It's not unusual for some of the 4WD trucks to have different rim offset between front and rear, as there is often a track width variation between F&R when a driven front axle is fitted, when the factory 4WD installation is carried out.

The different offset is needed to ensure the tyres end up with the same track F&R.

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Follow Up By: Peter_n_Margaret - Sunday, Mar 27, 2016 at 16:08

Sunday, Mar 27, 2016 at 16:08
Not sure of the GVM of this, but it would be well up there.



More pics here....http://www.robgray.com/graynomad/wothahellizat/wot2/diaries/diary_21/index.php

I had wheels made for the OKA by Mullins before they were generally available. If the rims are available, they will fit whatever centres are required and certify them - for a price.....

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Follow Up By: Life Member TourBoy, Bundaberg - Sunday, Mar 27, 2016 at 17:58

Sunday, Mar 27, 2016 at 17:58
Thanks Peter,

Most of the large trucks run american pattern 8 or 10 stud, the jap ones are harder to source (ADR compliant anyway)
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Follow Up By: Peter_n_Margaret - Sunday, Mar 27, 2016 at 18:44

Sunday, Mar 27, 2016 at 18:44
The most popular sizes for big 4WDs in Europe (MANs, Unimogs and the like) are 20".

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Reply By: carl h2 - Tuesday, Mar 29, 2016 at 18:04

Tuesday, Mar 29, 2016 at 18:04
try baurepaires that deal with trucks is it a 8 or ten stud rim or ring Alcoa truck rims.Also give ROH a call they truck rims as well
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