I have a new Religion

his reply to that was

"Eric God (9:32 PM) :
ill send the complimentary pic in a sec lol "

Lone Wolf,

Has the sticker god smiled on you yet or are you still stickerless???

Cheers

Lol!!

Sigh......... still stickerless.........

Should I??
should I add Diesel V Petrol, Waeco V Engel (have had 4 this week, but 1 more wont hurt), and what else, Real 4wd V non, and Yota V Nissan!

Whats the goods with tires? Size and Pattern.

Needs a new set.

Thinkin of either BFG AT's although I dislike them withbleepreputation now, but are about the better things going.

Spotties,

Yea thought about 170s but Eric mentioned on ICQ that they arent the best. Them or maybe Cibie Super O's

wait and see.

Mmmm, let me see ...

Tyres - std are 245/70/17, max you can fit in Vic without an engineer's cert is 776mm O/D. A Cooper ST 245/75/16 fits the bill nicely and several of the PCoA members now have these. Mind you, some have suffered minor lug damage. I haven't. The ST is a little noisier than the Mrs might like so an AT may be a better bet. I agree with you about BFG's. The Goodyear MTRs could be an acceptable alternative but I don't reckon you could go past the Cooper AT.

Suspension - there are now several lift kits from the likes of ARB. Max for the Pathy is 40 or 50 mm. Any more and start causing serious CV problems. Be careful as some of the kit don't include longer struts, for the front, just springs. Koni do a longer strut. www.4x4parts.com are also selling several kits that could be suitable - for less that a $grand Aussie.

The problem with the Cibie is you pay about 40% of the price just for the name.

Can you run 245/75 legally? What about 255/70? (Im good at 31s 33's etc, but the metric loses me :( )
heres what I dug up so far.

BFG site comes up with
Fatal error: Cannot redeclare getaccess() in /home/bfgoodrichcomau/eManage/object/foundation/eFoundation.php on line 875

that says it alll

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In personal preference order
Bridgestone/Toyo
Goodyear
Dunlops, but will cost $$
Coopers
Couldnt find much on Kellys but few mention good things about them here.

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Bridgestone
Bridgestone D693 (245/70R16) -> 2 load Ratings 107 and other 111
Bridgestone D693 (255/70R16)
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Goodyear
MTR's more than she needs... I love em personally on mine
But they have the ATR
245/75R16 111T WRNGLR AT/R OWL
245/70R16 107T WRNGLR AT/R OWL
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Dunlop Grandtrek AT2
245/70R16 107S BLT AT2
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Coopers
ATs
Interesting the Coopers AT's only have 50,000klm warranty.
245/70SR16
255/70SR16
LT version 60,000kms warranty
245/75R16 (6 or 10 ply)
255/70R16
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ST 60,000kms warranty
255/70SR16
245/75R16
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Toyo -> heard some good things in other threads on them.
Passenger Construction
235/75R15 105S
245/70R16 107S
245/75R16 109S
255/70R16 109S
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LT construction
LT245/75R16 108S
LT245/75R16 120Q
LT235/85R16 120Q
LT235/75R15 104S
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Thanks for yer assistance on this shiat.

OK, in that case, the max you can legally run is 30.5".

That means a 255/70 (definitely) and 245/75 (if VIc will accept the same argument as NSW has on the +3% manufacturing tolerance). Unfortunately a 265/70 is just a squidgeon too big, although under the concession I have secured in NSW, if I found a 265/70 that was 775 mm (30.5") instead of 777.4 mm (30.61"), then I could that too.

The key is not the size code (245/70/16, or whatever), it is the actual overall diameter in mm or inches. As long as what you fit stays within the max allowable overall diameter. According to the regs that is 15 mm larger than the overall diameter of the largest wheel/tyre combo offered and/or indicated on the tyre placard. Strictly speaking that would make it 764.4 mm (30.1"). However, the key word is "largest" and I used this argument in NSW to gain agreement from the NSW RTA that largest means the largest possible. Given that there is a +/- 3.0% allowable manufacturing variance, that means the largest possible is 3% larger than the std 254/70/16 as well as the +15 mm.

The short version of this story is that I have managed to get NSW RTA to agree that the largest I can fit to the Pathy is 775 mm (30.5"), not 764.4mm (30.1"). It doesn't make a huge difference but it gives you more choices - i.e. a 245/75.

Personally, I'd give the Bridgestones a miss. I reckon they are all crappy tyres. The Dunlop's don't get a good wrap either, and I have personal experience with them that bears that out. I've never owned MTR's and Nick Manell has told me the Coopers last longer but otherwise they are good. I've only heard good comments about the Toyos here and on Overlander and the ATs scored pretty highly in the AT tyre comparo that one of the mags did last year.

Good luck. :)

So which tire and size are you running now?

You said a 265/70, thats with suspension lift required??

What will fit on a stocky without issues?

Toyo looks inperson really like a car tire or at most a HT :(
http://www.toyo.com.au/OPAT%20Page.htm

I like the BFG AT aggressiveness, but nothin under 265 anymore accordin to tyre dude today.

Yokohama looked excellent, but at $285 for a 245, they wont ever sell
http://www.yokohama.com.au/Tyres/TyreSizes.asp?TyreID=41

the Hercules doesnt look bad
http://www.herculestire.com/hercules/her_tt_aw.htm and comes in a LT245/75R16 or LT235/85R16
http://www.herculestire.com/hercules/her_tt_at.htm but no side grip whatso ever.

http://www.toyo.com.au/M65%20Page.htm look good but no sizes.

anyway enough stupid questions for now

takec are

Bruce, I'm running a set of Cooper STs in 10 ply LT 245/75/16 (30.5") on a stock suspension. No clearance problems at all.

Hey hadnt thought of that LMAO one kid in each car, one adult too!

Gettin a GME 3800 for it this week will get installed with MP3 player next weekend..

LMAO Planning a lift in this one, also tires etc.. its gotta look good to be allowed to park in the same driveway as mine....

Suze?? NEVER

apparently no safari available... asked local TJM bloke he was disinterested totally..

No Safari and no AirTech and no interest from either. They have both told us (the PCoA) that there simply isn't enough volume, despite 3,000 Pathys being sold each year and potentially 200 - 300 would-be snorkel customers.

We have located some potential sources for custom jobs here in Sydney but most of us have new-ish Pathys and aren't game enough to see them butchered.

If you go down this Path, we'd love to see the result.

P.S. Having sourced a spare panel to experiment on, one of our members did extensive work with Nick Manell, to see if any other available model would suit. Sadly, they couldn't find one that fitted the Pathy's panel shape or allowed for the radio aerial.