30 second tent

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Can anyone recommend a quick to erect tent 3 or 4 man. Ray's tent city have one where the poles are already set in place and it's just a simple 30 second to unpack, pull a cord and its up! Has anyone had experience with these types of tents.Thanks johno
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Reply By: Billion Star Camper - Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 08:31

Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 08:31
Johno my wife and I used an Oztent known as the 30 second tent on a trip down the Canning a couple of years ago. It has an aluminum frame built within the tent and it indeed only takes 30 seconds to erect and a few second longer to put down and pack in the bag.

It is about 2 metres long when packed which could be a game stopper for some. I put it on the roof rack with a couple of straps and it never moved.

I highly recommend it. There are several sizes now and if you want to use a stretcher in it just check not only the floor space, but the end wall comes in at an angle and will meet the stretcher if you buy the smallest one.How ever I am not sure if that is what you are looking at at Rays tent city.

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Follow Up By: johno59 - Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 13:31

Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 13:31
Thanks for the advice. the one at Ray's has inbuilt poles and is very easy to set up...30 seconds and it's done. They sell for about $180 on sale. Will check Oztent though Thanks johno
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Follow Up By: TerraFirma - Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 14:01

Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 14:01
I have one and whilst the main tent is 30 seconds you certainly don't usually camp with this alone. I ended up with front room attachments etc and this adds time. The Oztent is certainly a quality product.
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Reply By: Les - PK Ranger - Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 09:04

Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 09:04
Have seen many types / brands in use, and sure, they are fast for basic setup.
Anything more like awnings, extensions, side walls, flys, etc takes a bit of time like a normal tent.
The other trade off is these tents are usually bulky (long) and heavy, but if you can get around this, you might really get some good use from such a tent.
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Follow Up By: johno59 - Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 13:33

Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 13:33
Thanks Les. the one that Ray's sell would be OK the downside is they are not real good in windy weather according to there sales people. Thanks
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Reply By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 09:06

Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 09:06
Hi Johno

If you are talking about the OzTent, then yes they are fantastic.mwe have had the RV4 for nearly 10 years is the best ever tent we have ever owned.


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Follow Up By: johno59 - Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 13:35

Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 13:35
Thanks Les wil definitely take a look at Oztent johno
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Reply By: LAZYLUX16 - Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 09:41

Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 09:41
Have a look at Darche Airvolution tents .AT4 and AT6.I highly recommend.Lots of room ventilation strong floor heavy duty pvc and very quick to erect..I got talked out of buying those other tents by a camping shop.cheers
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Follow Up By: Malcom M - Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 07:54

Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 07:54
Got one of these. Simply brilliant.
Looked at Oztents but unless you are short, you cannot stand up in them. They are too long for most roofracks.
The Darche takes my 6ft 3" no problem. Takes 60 seconds to pump up. Bigger on the inside due to the outwards curve in the poles.
Has done the Cape with an up/down every day for 6 weeks. Love it.
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Follow Up By: LAZYLUX16 - Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 10:49

Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 10:49
Malcom M which one ya got .I was amazed with my At4 got more space than my old bigger tent.They have been called the Tardis .I like the strong floor and plenty ventilation and fact you can take awning completely off..
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Follow Up By: Malcom M - Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 11:06

Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 11:06
AT4 as well.Unbelievable room inside.
I never take the awning off. Reckon its too useful keeping out rain or bird pooh.
Awnings big enough to fit a table under and have dinner when I can't be bothered to pull out the Foxwing.
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Reply By: dad1340 - Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 11:00

Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 11:00
Oztent R5 for us - to old to play games with cheap imitations.

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Follow Up By: dad1340 - Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 08:24

Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 08:24
Oops, I forgot to mention, yep you can put up the Oztent R5 (once it's out of the bag) in a couple of minutes but then; if you fully peg out the Tent, Fly and Awning it takes a couple of days ;)

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Follow Up By: Member - Scott M (NSW) - Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 19:20

Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 19:20
Glad someone else said that, my parents had an RV7. By the time you got the (heavy) sucker down form the roof racks, pulled it out of the (too small) bag, laid the underliner down, lined the OzTent up, got 2 people (and it did need 2) to pfaff around and erect it, then pole & peg out the fly, and then the back flap, it certainly wasn't a 30 second tent. Might have gone up and down in 30 secs at a 4wd & camping show, but not in the rough.

Dont' get me wrong, it was a great tent, but it certainly wasn't a 30 second jobby (and even more on the way down.....)
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Follow Up By: Les - PK Ranger - Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 19:58

Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 19:58
Great marketing on the part of the manufacturer, hey ?
Personally I feel tourers with side pole kit are about as fast as you can get for real time tent erection.
4 pegs, then a few internal poles, maybe the veradah poles if staying a day or more.
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Follow Up By: dad1340 - Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 20:32

Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 20:32
Bit of 'Tongue in Cheek' Scott but a serious tip for the Oztent brigade, these things are aerodynamic as an oversize cardboard box.

I've seen a few pictures of people with only the 4 corners pegged down using the small tent pegs. Oztent advises to fully peg it down for full strength.

When a decent storm came out of the South West on a recent trip to the Barrington Tops we were glad I had my own H/D pegs and all points were pegged out.

I've got what the grandkids call a "Tippy-Tappy" chair (just a folding stool) that saves the old scarred knees. It's an arduous process but it beats having to get up at 3.00am pegging out.

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Follow Up By: Member - Scott M (NSW) - Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 20:46

Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 20:46
Yeah, when Dad & I used to peg the whole thing out, it took 13 pegs. 8 round the tent, 2 in the front fly, and 3 on the back flap. As someone who has gone to great lengths to avoid hammering sh*t into the ground on my current set up....

Grew up on the mid north coast - done plenty of trips up to Barrington & Gloucester tops... speccy part of the world.
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Follow Up By: dad1340 - Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 21:07

Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 21:07
Yeah Scott, looks like you have the real deal with the Tojo Trayback. The trips up Careys Peak Trail, the Carson and west off the tops to Moonan Brook and many more, where brilliant trips back in the day.
The Werrikembe NP region the same.

As you would know, all there is now is locked off tracks and Scotch Broom, foxes, pigs, cats and Brumbies - sad.

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Reply By: Member - Wildmax - Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 14:24

Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 14:24
Look at Black Wolf - good quality, easy as the OzTent to set up, but you don't have such a long package to store on the roof - can fit inside your wagon.
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Reply By: Michael H9 - Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 14:38

Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 14:38
It sounds like one of those ultra light tents similar to the all in one shower tents. The poles are sort of coil sprung into the fabric. Probably not that good in wind and rain, fine for nice weather. The fun comes when you try to pack them up again, it's like herding cats getting those coils back together. :-)
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Follow Up By: Les - PK Ranger - Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 15:18

Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 15:18
Nah, it's the type that sort of pops up like a spider standing up, the legs sort of open like an umbrella, but they are pretty strong.
Not a bad system, just a little different to the way an Oztent works.

The 3 second tents (as you describe) have their place, we love them in the desert, so quick / easy for a basic shelter.
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Reply By: Nomadic Navara - Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 15:43

Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 15:43
How about a link to what you are talking about.





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Follow Up By: Les - PK Ranger - Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 15:55

Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 15:55
My guess is one of the Coleman Instant Up tents . . . Rays Outdoors tents
Lot of pre chatter, erecting the tent from the 38 second mark.
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Follow Up By: Nomadic Navara - Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 16:28

Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 16:28
I'm not so sure about that. I have had a look through their range and could not see one labelled "30 second tent." Seeing the OP used the term in his heading I thought there was something in their range with that label on it. I did a search of the site using the term "30 second tent" and it brought up a few Oz tents.

If someone wants comments on something then they should be accurate in their request. Adding a link is the best way of defining something.
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Follow Up By: LAZYLUX16 - Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 18:06

Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 18:06
Called Fast Pitch tents by Oztrail got told not very strong and Black Wolf do not have good ventilation that was from retal camping store one that does not sell Darche tents .Anyways have to decide yourself trial and error and do not get hung up on how fast a tent can be pitched after all got plenty time not working but traveling.
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Follow Up By: Member - Allan L2 - Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 20:05

Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 20:05
Nomadic Navara, just google Oztent. All details are there.
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Follow Up By: Steve - Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 20:30

Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 20:30
@ $180 I don't think he's talking about an oztent. As PK suggested, probably an oztrail but some actual info would be handy

A bit too much emphasis put on these "instant tents". When you take into account other gear that is set up as well, there's not a huge difference in overall set up time. Suitability is a bit more important. Not much good having a 30'second tent if it has blown off into the distance by the time you get back from having a pee.
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Follow Up By: Michael H9 - Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 21:32

Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 21:32
Oztent Malamoo

https://www.tentworld.com.au/buy-sale/malamoo-extra-3-tent?gclid=CI2otqOzz8wCFZOSvQod-MoOug

goes up in 3 seconds....not sure if I can wait around that long? Looking for one that goes up before I get there. :-)
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Follow Up By: Les - PK Ranger - Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 10:03

Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 10:03
The OP might come back and clarify sometime . . .

Have that Malamoo extra 3 tent, and love it for deserts, bit of dew or very light rain.
The double swag fits in with a couple of bags at sides, makes it easy for setup bedding :)

Wouldn't trust it too much in moderate - heavy rain, but might be ok for a while :)
I use shadecloth underneath to protect lightweight floor.
Packing up is easy after looking at youtube vids and two or three practice goes, much like the instant ensuite tents.
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Reply By: Bob Y. - Qld - Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 10:57

Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 10:57
We just bought an RV-3 Oztent last week, for our upcoming trips. Had seen one in use previously so knew what we were getting. Having a ute, with a canopy, it should fit???

One feature that I like is the ability to slot the awning into the sailtrack(with optional $70 adaptor) of our canopy, giving us some shade, weather protection and privacy for the Cook.

Of course, after purchasing this item, we now can't afford fuel to go anywhere to set the tent up. :-)

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Reply By: ian.g - Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 12:57

Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 12:57
Don't know if you can still get these, have had ours for nearly 30 years, is a Coleman, excellent product which erects in about 2 minutes, putting pegs in takes the most time, 10'x10' with almost vertical walls so maximises the available room inside the tent, also very quick to pull down and is fairly light and weatherproof and can take wind. When they were first released there was one erected on the back of a truck and driven from Sydney to Brisbane with out blowing apart.
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Follow Up By: LAZYLUX16 - Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 15:31

Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 15:31
Still make similiar one Kodiak I think Anaconda do same but different brand ..
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Follow Up By: Bob Y. - Qld - Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 13:47

Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 13:47
That looks like a good spot to spend a few days, Ian. Is it a secret? :-)

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Follow Up By: ian.g - Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 15:22

Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 15:22
Hi Bob,
No secret, and not far from you, Little Boomerang Waterhole at Welford National Park at Jundah, good spot, very few people,plenty of water and fish if you're inclined to catch them. I've never been much of a fisherman but we used to come here fishing when I was working at Isis Downs in the early 60's
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Reply By: Malcom M - Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 08:10

Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 08:10
You are getting a lot of opinions from owners who, of course, all own the best there is. However no one has considered what you are going to do with your tent and you certainly have not provided much to go on.

From you very basic brief, a Coleman instant up would be the.best thing you could buy.
Extremely quick to put up, super light weight, heaps of room & cheap. However its nylon so put it away wet and it'll stay wet.

Are you just doing weekenders or expeditions?
Going somewhere for a week or daily up & down?

I have a Coleman Instant Up and love it however its pretty useless for anything beyond weekends. Did two weeks in the Vic High Country where we had two days without rain. Packing up the tent wet meant it leaked continuously for the duration of the trip.

The Oztents have a sloped roof with the highest point at the door. For me this means there is nowhere to stand unless you are short. When packed, its too long for most roof racks and didn't give us much usable internal room. However it is waterproof.

The Black Wolf is only waterproof when you put the fly up which most don't seem to do. Its a conventional tent so it has standing room in the middle.

My choice is the Darche Airvolution. This has inflatable air poles and takes under 60 secs to put (pump) up. The poles curve outwards like a ball so there is a huge amount of internal space. I'm 6ft 3" and can stand easily. Its canvas so never leaks. The kevlar inflatable poles are pretty much indestructible and Darche have videos showing fully laden 4x4s driving over them whilst inflated. Used one the Cape for 6 weeks with a daily up/down and simply love it.
Only draw back is if the pump fails you will be screwed but we take a spare just in case.

You also fail to give us a price guide. The Coleman will be cheapest at around $225, Darche around $850, then Oztent around $1000 and Black Wolf around $1300.
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Reply By: Robin Miller - Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 19:30

Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 19:30
http://www.kmart.com.au/product/folding-instant-tent---4-person/731491

This is a cheapie , but interesting , and if it breaks -well you just buy another.

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Reply By: Baz - The Landy - Friday, May 13, 2016 at 14:47

Friday, May 13, 2016 at 14:47
When I saw this thread the question that went to my mind was why the need for a tent that erects in 30 seconds.?

Now don’t get me wrong, if that is what people want that is fine. Hey, I owned three Landrover Defenders and never felt the need to justify that to anyone other than Mrs Landy…but that is another story!

But is the fact it is billed as 30-seconds to erect appealing because it suggests it is simple to erect, or is it that that some are that time poor to need such a set-up?

I’m sure there are quick to erect tents that are far superior to others, but usually there is a compromise somewhere. And when you consider that bedding needs to be considered part of the set-up does 30-seconds really equate to something meaningful when determining how long it takes to have your camp ready?

As highlighted in one of the preceding responses, one should consider what use you will put it to as part of the assessment to see if it is suitable.

We have three alternatives when we are Out and About, TVAN, swag, or for something in between we use a Southern Cross centre-pole, 4 peg tent.

The Southern Cross tent, usually takes us no more than a few minutes to set-up, let’s call it 5-minutes on a quick day, and a couple of extra when we are dawdling (code for first beer and wine in hand!). My point is that it is not much time in the scheme of things.

So I am interested to hear, what is the appeal or motivator to have a 30-second set-up?

Otherwise, good weekend to all…and remember “Laughter is an instant holiday”.


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Follow Up By: Michael H9 - Friday, May 13, 2016 at 19:09

Friday, May 13, 2016 at 19:09
Five whole minutes sounds very laborious to me Baz. I think that with the 3 second tents, you are supposed to drive around in your pyjamas and leave the entrance zipper unzipped when you packed it the night before. Then you arrive, pull the ripcord and dive in through the hole before the tent hits the ground. The aim is to hit the ground simultaneously with the tent...it builds skill and coordination. Not zipping it up saves another second and the tent is held down by body weight alone, saving more precious seconds by not pegging it. For today's time poor campers, relaxing faster is definitely a priority. Why else would you make and advertise a 3 second tent?
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Follow Up By: Member - Ups and Downs - Saturday, May 14, 2016 at 09:15

Saturday, May 14, 2016 at 09:15
'Cause they're better than the old style '3 hour' tents from years ago!
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