You can put spotties on the roof

Submitted: Friday, Jun 17, 2016 at 14:51
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At least in Queensland
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Reply By: Life Member - Fred B (ex-NT) - Friday, Jun 17, 2016 at 15:05

Friday, Jun 17, 2016 at 15:05
Your link does not work...
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Follow Up By: Member - William B (The Shire) - Friday, Jun 17, 2016 at 15:22

Friday, Jun 17, 2016 at 15:22
Hi Fred B,
the link worked for me, it points to a pdf which can be opened or saved.
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Follow Up By: Frank P (NSW) - Friday, Jun 17, 2016 at 15:26

Friday, Jun 17, 2016 at 15:26
Worked for me, Fred.

I tried to find what the go is for NSW. All I could find is this fact sheet which doesn't address the roof option like the QLD one does.

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Reply By: toffytrailertrash - Friday, Jun 17, 2016 at 15:26

Friday, Jun 17, 2016 at 15:26
In short NO... if they are connected to your high beam. If connected to high beam they can not be any higher than the line of the headlights of the vehicle. Aussie ADR's I cannot quote you the relevant section number but it is there. It was one of the most common items on a vehicle defect list ever written.

They can only used on the roof in off road situations.

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Follow Up By: TomH - Friday, Jun 17, 2016 at 15:49

Friday, Jun 17, 2016 at 15:49
Depends which post you are replying to.
In QLD it clearly says they can be on the front part of the roof but must switch on and off with high beams and/or have a manual switch to turn only them off.
If you read the article it shows vehicles with them on the roof on the road.
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Follow Up By: Mikee5 - Friday, Jun 17, 2016 at 15:57

Friday, Jun 17, 2016 at 15:57
Hi Merv,
The fact sheet issued by Qld Transport can't be plainer. The dot point says this : Driving lamps may be fitted above the roof line. The driving lamps must be fitted to the front half of the vehicle, when measured from the front to the rearmost point of the vehicle.
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Follow Up By: garrycol - Friday, Jun 17, 2016 at 16:09

Friday, Jun 17, 2016 at 16:09
All legal - even on new vehicles a while back.



These are not aftermarket but are OEM fitted. Legal in all areas of Aust.

This topic was done to death a couple of months back.
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Follow Up By: toffytrailertrash - Friday, Jun 17, 2016 at 16:29

Friday, Jun 17, 2016 at 16:29
I suggest that you check out ADR's 7.3.4.3 in relation to driving lights.

Fitted to front of vehicle.
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Follow Up By: Frank P (NSW) - Friday, Jun 17, 2016 at 16:58

Friday, Jun 17, 2016 at 16:58
Toffy,

How do you reconcile Qld's exemption with the ADR?

I doubt that any State would act outside its authority in such a matter as this.
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Follow Up By: Hoyks - Friday, Jun 17, 2016 at 17:05

Friday, Jun 17, 2016 at 17:05
I have read the relevant ADR and I interpreted it as it is now being interpreted by the QLD Transport and is reflected in the fact sheet referenced in the original post. The only variation in the fact sheet from what is in the ADR's is recognizing that LED light bars exist now.

7.3.4.3 reads "In length: at the front of the vehicle and fitted in such a way that the light emitted does not cause discomfort to the driver either directly or indirectly through the rear-view mirrors and/or other reflecting surfaces of the vehicle."
If they were 'at the extreme front', then how would the reflect in the mirrors unless the mirrors were out on stalks like some buses? I think the way the wording now is, 1mm forward of center and they are good to go.

"7.3. DRIVING LAMPS
7.3.1. Presence: Optional on motor vehicles. Prohibited on trailers.
7.3.2. Number:
7.3.2.1. Two or four.
7.3.2.2. To be used in conjunction with headlamps.
7.3.3 Arrangement: No individual specifications

7.3.4. Position
7.3.4.1. In width no individual specifications.
7.3.4.2. In height: no individual specifications.
7.3.4.3. In length: at the front of the vehicle and fitted in such a way that the light emitted does not cause discomfort to the driver either directly or indirectly through the rear-view mirrors and/or other reflecting surfaces of the vehicle.
7.3.5. Geometric visibility No individual specifications.
7.3.6. Orientation Towards the front"
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Follow Up By: TomH - Friday, Jun 17, 2016 at 17:23

Friday, Jun 17, 2016 at 17:23
I went looking at this a few weeks ago because it used to say no spotties above the bonnet line and rooftop spotties were only allowed off road and had to be covered on road. These parts seem to have been deleted and now what QLD says is the norm.

I looked through State rules and they are basically all the same.
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