Is there a more interesting way to get from Renmark to Yunta in S.A.?

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Going up Arkaroola way soon from Renmark and trying to come up with a better path than down the highway to Burra and then up to Yunta along Barrier hwy,
once past Yunta it seems straight forward to Frome Downs and across.

However there seems no obvious way to cut across from Remark to Yunta !
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Reply By: Phil1234 - Wednesday, Jul 13, 2016 at 15:21

Wednesday, Jul 13, 2016 at 15:21
I have often wondered about this myself.

Mainly posting so that I can monitor this thread.

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Follow Up By: Robin Miller - Wednesday, Jul 13, 2016 at 16:58

Wednesday, Jul 13, 2016 at 16:58
If we come up with a good answer, I'll send you a copy for only $10 Phil
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Follow Up By: Phil1234 - Wednesday, Jul 13, 2016 at 18:50

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Hi Robin
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Reply By: Member - Roachie - Wednesday, Jul 13, 2016 at 15:22

Wednesday, Jul 13, 2016 at 15:22
Robin, there are various options to go through Dangalli Conseration park but the (dirt) roads might be impassable at the moment due to so much rain.

The area is awash with tracks.....but I don't have much first hand knowledge to impart.

Several years ago I was one of a group of vehicles (Murray Bridge 4WD Club) who went up through that way to get to Menindee Lakes. We didn't go all the way to Yunta, but I know there are heaps of tracks through that whole area.

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Follow Up By: Robin Miller - Wednesday, Jul 13, 2016 at 17:13

Wednesday, Jul 13, 2016 at 17:13
I tried to find info before posting Roachie , but seems hard to get any real pathway.

But as you say there are lots of minor lines on the maps but nothing direct.

I did find a good free camping spot just east of Renmark at top of Lindsay state forrest a couple of weeks ago, I might camp there again , fill up at Renmark and just start driving !


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Reply By: Member - John - Wednesday, Jul 13, 2016 at 15:28

Wednesday, Jul 13, 2016 at 15:28
Robin, if you leave Renmark, head to Morgan, before you get to Morgan turn right on to Bungunnilia Rd, it turns into Morgan Mail Rd, then left onto Koomooloo Rd, right onto Eastern Rd, then left onto Sturt Vale Rd, get to the highway, turn right towards Yunta. Not sure what the roads are like and time frame it will take, never been on those roads. But it gets you off the bitumen. Good luck.
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Follow Up By: Robin Miller - Wednesday, Jul 13, 2016 at 16:56

Wednesday, Jul 13, 2016 at 16:56
OK John -trying to find what you said using EOTROPPO , eastern rd isn't marked but there are roads? from both Old Koomooloo to Sturt Vale - also you could continue up Morgan mail rd then turn towards Sturt Vale.

While there are several minor rds marked even closer to Renmark its hard to find what might be the normal way -might just mean more exploring, as doesn't seem to be any user treks even.
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Follow Up By: Peter_n_Margaret - Wednesday, Jul 13, 2016 at 17:35

Wednesday, Jul 13, 2016 at 17:35
This is a favourite route of ours....
Just E of Morgan, Balah, Canegrass, Pine Valley, Lilydade, Manunda, Yunta.
Interesting and diverse country.
Just south of Lilydale there is Oratan Rock which is a prominent ancient volcanic core. Many years ago we contacted Lilydale in advance and they let us camp near the base overnight. It is not far from the road.

The other fascinating bit of country out there is between Yunta and Manna Hill via Panaramatee and Oulnina Park. There is a "piece of the Flinders" in there that got lost from the rest.

EDIT.. Be prepared to spend half a day exploring the ruins of Waukaringa north of Yunta.

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Follow Up By: Robin Miller - Thursday, Jul 14, 2016 at 12:39

Thursday, Jul 14, 2016 at 12:39
Thanks Guys.

Peter I could not find pine valley but got the other points.

I presume from Canegrass you continue up Morgan mail rd then turn left thru to Sturtvale ?

After Manunda to get to Yunta I presume you would turn right and go to Redgate bore then Tiverten.

I'm using EoToppo - maybe there is a better map ?
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Follow Up By: Peter_n_Margaret - Thursday, Jul 14, 2016 at 14:12

Thursday, Jul 14, 2016 at 14:12
HEMA to the rescue....hope it is readable at the scale...

Via Pine Valley or Old Koomooloo is much of a muchness I think.
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Follow Up By: Robin Miller - Thursday, Jul 14, 2016 at 14:59

Thursday, Jul 14, 2016 at 14:59
Thanks Peter.

This is clearly a case of "Hema to the rescue" , and is what I needed.

It clearly shows the more important roads and even a path from near Renmark to Pine Valley.

In contrast my EoToppo shows a confusing array of roads in which it is hard to come up with a clear path and as well doesn't even have Pine Valley on it.

I have Hema desert stuff but it stops just north of Lilydale.

Your map would have come from touring Aussie series which I will get to-morrow, thanks again.
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Follow Up By: Member - wicket - Thursday, Jul 14, 2016 at 15:22

Thursday, Jul 14, 2016 at 15:22
Robin.
That's odd that your copy of EOTopo does not show Pine Valley as it is clear on my copy , on the old Morgan Mail Rd.
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Follow Up By: Robin Miller - Thursday, Jul 14, 2016 at 16:51

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Could be different version Wicket ,my S.A. one is 2014.3
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Follow Up By: ExplorOz Team - Michelle - Thursday, Jul 14, 2016 at 19:00

Thursday, Jul 14, 2016 at 19:00
For trip planning - use EOTopo online - EOTopo Online as you can zoom in further than on the 200K maps. Remember to click the full screen mode.
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Reply By: Member - Allan L2 - Wednesday, Jul 13, 2016 at 17:29

Wednesday, Jul 13, 2016 at 17:29
Hi Robin,

Do you have to go via Renmark? If not you may consider heading north on the Silver City H/way from Mildura & turn westward approximately 25 km north of Coombah onto Loch Lilly Rd then via Loch Lilly, Oakdale, Lily dale & Tiverton. A mate went that way last July & found it very interesting. Not too sure on road conditions due to rain at the moment.

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Follow Up By: Robin Miller - Wednesday, Jul 13, 2016 at 19:54

Wednesday, Jul 13, 2016 at 19:54
I don't actually Allan , so I will check out your route , but not tonight as its freezing cold here . Thanks
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Reply By: Member - John - Wednesday, Jul 13, 2016 at 17:41

Wednesday, Jul 13, 2016 at 17:41
Robin, I back tracked from Yunta via google maps. I like the sound of the other way better though.......
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Reply By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Wednesday, Jul 13, 2016 at 18:34

Wednesday, Jul 13, 2016 at 18:34
Hi Robin,

As you can see from the above replies, the short answer is a Yes.

The next question you must ask yourself, is whick track.

There are countless great roads that head north and can highly recommend Danggali as there is a lot to see there. From there you can crisscross your way
north over great station track, but you would not want to do them at the moment.

I have a good friend that is managing Sturt Vale, so if you need to know the exact conditions at the moment, I can give you Simon's phone number. 08 8892 8655


Have fun planning.


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Follow Up By: Robin Miller - Wednesday, Jul 13, 2016 at 20:00

Wednesday, Jul 13, 2016 at 20:00
Thanks Stephen , I looked over your Danggali user trek , but wasn't sure if theres a way out to end up near Frome downs , I might need better maps than EoTroppo, but as per another reply its so cold here at moment , so I'll end research for tonight , and thanks for number , not leaving for 3 weeks so things may change.
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Follow Up By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Wednesday, Jul 13, 2016 at 20:12

Wednesday, Jul 13, 2016 at 20:12
Just another tip Robin, if you intend to camp at Danggali, go for campsite no 2.

It is a bigger area that some of the other sites and big enough to fit a number of vehicles and and nice and flat with a large fire ring in the middle.



Heading north from Danggali, after looking around Morgan Vale, you can either turn left and head east on the Morgan Mail Run, or head north and follow your nose and more great track to Yunta.


Have a great trip and by then the roads should be ok.


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Reply By: Bob Y. - Qld - Thursday, Jul 14, 2016 at 17:29

Thursday, Jul 14, 2016 at 17:29
The memory might be dimming slightly, Robin, but I recall a blog of this area, done by Member Andrew & Jen. Maybe a year or two ago?

Andrew had some good photos, looked very interesting country, and a description of the tracks they travelled. Might be worth a look for it?

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