GU Diff Lock?
Submitted: Monday, May 31, 2004 at 10:41
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Peter McGuckian
For those of you with GUs and Diff Locks: I'm about to get a diff lock for my GU. I figure it is best to put it on the front and leave the LSD to do its job. Am I right?
Peter
Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Monday, May 31, 2004 at 11:02
Monday, May 31, 2004 at 11:02
Theres 100's of thoughts on this..
You wont get a definate answer to front or rear!
What sort of work, mud etc, or
rock, or dry stuff?
Obviously an Air locker, as not worth worrying about the others..
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Follow Up By: Peter McGuckian - Monday, May 31, 2004 at 11:08
Monday, May 31, 2004 at 11:08
Truckster
We tow a camper trailer most of the time and the locker will be there for extra pull uphill on dry, rocky stuff around the high country. If wet or muddy, don't take the trailer. Seems a waste to disturb the LSD when it works OK.
My thinking is to put one in the front, see how it goes, then add another in the rear if needed.
Peter
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Monday, May 31, 2004 at 11:14
Monday, May 31, 2004 at 11:14
Remember with a rear one and front, you lose your LSD, which on wet roads is handy...
Otherwise your no better off than a 1958ish FC holden with a single spinner!
Search the archives, theres a few 100 threads on this in the past
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Follow Up By: Peter McGuckian - Monday, May 31, 2004 at 11:27
Monday, May 31, 2004 at 11:27
Agree - so I'm putting it in the front. Will have a good look through the archives. Only looking at the ARB air lockers.
Peter
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Reply By: Member - Lex - Monday, May 31, 2004 at 12:07
Monday, May 31, 2004 at 12:07
Don't discount the Detroit Locker. I' ve used Air Locker on previous 100 series and Detroit locker in the front of my GU and I love it. Only used when you engage 4wd;totally automatic;and you retain most of your steering capability. Only advantage of Air Locker that I can see is the potential to use the air compressor for other things. Just my 2 cents worth.
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Follow Up By: Nino & Kerry (VIC) - Monday, May 31, 2004 at 22:18
Monday, May 31, 2004 at 22:18
Lex,
I thought the same when i went looking for a locker for my truck. I rang keysbrough diffs and was quoted $1600 for the detroit, but only $1492 for an air locker from ARB( inc hose kit ).Saved $100 and we have a compressor as
well. And i can't tell you how good the truck go's in the mud/rough stuff now.
I'd recommend an air locker to anyone, I,m saving for a front locker now!
Cheers Nino
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Follow Up By: Gerk - Tuesday, Jun 01, 2004 at 13:14
Tuesday, Jun 01, 2004 at 13:14
I have just fitted a 4wd systems lockka to my Pootrol, kit was $745 retail plus fitting about $300 extra $500 for Detroit, someones ripping someone off ?
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Reply By: Member - Captain (WA) - Monday, May 31, 2004 at 13:27
Monday, May 31, 2004 at 13:27
I had an ezy locker in the front of my 80 series. It did ~150,000kms with no problems and was great. I prefer it to the airlocker as you still have steering ability with it when say in rocky country, whereas an airlocker needs to be turned off or you lose your steering ability.
It does marginally affect the steering feel, but nothing that was a probelm for me. Initial turning was a bit like a lack of power steering until the locker cammed out, then all normal. But others who drove it did not like the difference (you get used to it quickly). It makes NO difference when in 2WD at all to the steering. Also, have heard that the detroit locker makes a noticeable difference to steering feel as it takes more to cam out, but have not personally driven a front detroit locker vehicle.
I plan to install an auto ezy locker in the front of my GU at some stage, even though others may prefer the air locker, i reckon the auto locker has more advantages.
As for front/rear, the front is the ONLY place to go IMHO considering the great rear LSD of the GU (the 80 series was crap, especially after 150,000kms!!!!)
Cheers
Captain
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Reply By: Member - Roachie- Monday, May 31, 2004 at 15:22
Monday, May 31, 2004 at 15:22
Peter,
Mate, I've got
mine in the front and left the excellent LSD there like god intended.
It's great......here's an example.
July 2002 we went to
Cape York. Crossing creeks following a Toyota mid wheel base Bundera (I think that's what it was called??). I was worried at the first crossing as I sat on the edge while this bloke tried about 4 times before he finally got up the bank on the other side. He had no trailer....I had my Ultimate Camper (about 1.2 tonne loaded).......so here I am thinking to myself "if that bloke had that much strife getting up there, how the hell am I gunna do it"?????
Anyway, decided to have a go (thinking I can always use the Warn if I do get stuck, eh?)
Get across the river (about 100 metres across but only about 1 foot deep). Get back onto the muddy bit, hit the locker and idle up the bank as easy as you please in 2nd Low. That scenario was to be repeated for the rest of the trip across all those creeks. I didn't know the bloke in the toyota and can't be sure if it was driver error that caused him so much strife, or wrong tyres/pressures etc. But the air-locker ensured I never had any problems at all.
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Follow Up By: Peter McGuckian - Monday, May 31, 2004 at 15:36
Monday, May 31, 2004 at 15:36
Roachie,
Thanks for the confirmation. We also tow an Ultimate and its exactly for this type of situation that I see it being needed.
Just had the camper serviced. Had the lounge seats split so we can get at the space under the seats - much improved.
Peter
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie- Monday, May 31, 2004 at 15:44
Monday, May 31, 2004 at 15:44
Sounds like a good idea Peter,
I've thought of a couple of other modification I reckon would be worthwhile...
What about another side locker door enabling access to the pantry from outside (ie: above the gas bottle cupboard).
Also, a removable, sealable panel so you can look down into the battery compartment by removing the
seat cushion above it....would make checking the battery levels a lot easier (although we now use a sealed Exide Orbital anyway, so don't have to worry as much).
Cheers
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Reply By: davidta - Monday, May 31, 2004 at 15:31
Monday, May 31, 2004 at 15:31
I have Detroits Front & Rear in my GU. Started off with just a front Detroit & the LSD. In a particular
creek crossing, it only just made it out whereas a twin Air Locker 80 series walked it. I then decided that a rear locker was needed.
I love the twin lockers & although the rear LSD is good, the locker is better for extreme conditions.
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Follow Up By: sean - Monday, May 31, 2004 at 16:38
Monday, May 31, 2004 at 16:38
David
I am thinking of front locker for my GU. How would you rate the detroits front locker for extended and prolonged use for those times when you end up in 4wd for 100 kays at a time.
Thanks
Sean
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Follow Up By: davidta - Monday, May 31, 2004 at 17:18
Monday, May 31, 2004 at 17:18
Sean
Have used it in 4wd through the Simpson & for entire weekends in the High Country (Vic) all the time.
Don't have a problem. Sure, the steering is a little heavier but nothing you won't quickly & easily get used to.
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Follow Up By: sean - Monday, May 31, 2004 at 20:52
Monday, May 31, 2004 at 20:52
David
thanks for the reply. I will make enquires on who I can get one from.
Sean
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Tuesday, Jun 01, 2004 at 10:19
Tuesday, Jun 01, 2004 at 10:19
I have a lockright (similar to the detroit) in my GU and same one in my GQ before that, and its done heaps of service with no problems at all, I do like having some steering as
well as the drive.
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Reply By: Michael - Tuesday, Jun 01, 2004 at 12:09
Tuesday, Jun 01, 2004 at 12:09
Hi all. can someone explain the way the different lock systems work? It appears that they all have different characteristics, I'm interested, Many thanks Michael
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Reply By: Old Johno - Tuesday, Jun 01, 2004 at 18:22
Tuesday, Jun 01, 2004 at 18:22
Peter,
I have an Air locker on the front of my GU. We do a bit of mountain work with loose stone and I find if I slip the locker in & go steady I have no trouble at all. A couple of thes have been "B" grade [My limit] but with the rear LSD working great There have been no troubles including some bad Bog holes
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