Geraldton WA Visitors Be Warned.
Submitted: Tuesday, Sep 06, 2016 at 17:05
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Member - reggy 2 (VIC)
Travelling in WA
Geraldton today, as a Victorian did not expect to pay to park in a Woolworths car park did shopping ten minutes later returned to car only to find a $75 fine under wiper blades.
BE WARNED YOU HAVE TO PAY IN WOOLWORTHS CAR PARK .
Cheers happy wandering and wild flower hunting.
Reply By: fisho64 - Tuesday, Sep 06, 2016 at 22:03
Tuesday, Sep 06, 2016 at 22:03
There is free
parking next to Stirling Shopping Centre, and only 50 meters away Queens
IGA with a massive free
parking area.
While I hate to pay for the
parking there and so rarely use Woolies, as said if you could miss those signs, you would also miss give way, stop, and speed signs!
Queens
IGA (50 meters), Durlacher
IGA (400 meters away), Coles (1km away) all have free
parking.
If you could even pay for your stuff in there within 10 minutes though your doing
well
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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Wednesday, Sep 07, 2016 at 09:56
Wednesday, Sep 07, 2016 at 09:56
Queens
IGA has now got 2 hour free
parking for customers.
We may get casual with signs when on
home turf, but when somewhere new it pays to try and read them twice.
Phil
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Follow Up By: fisho64 - Wednesday, Sep 07, 2016 at 12:23
Wednesday, Sep 07, 2016 at 12:23
The difference is though that the
IGA one is private and hence CGG can't/don't ticket it.
IGA could tow you away but you'd need to do something pretty extreme for that.
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Reply By: Motherhen - Tuesday, Sep 06, 2016 at 22:53
Tuesday, Sep 06, 2016 at 22:53
I have not seen these pay for
parking shoppers car parks in
Geraldton, but do not find it unusual. Probably over twenty years ago when shopping in the Bunbury CBD the council car parks were all pay
parking. In some towns in our travels, even street
parking is pay
parking (eg
Devonport in Tasmania).
Now at the shopping centre in central Bunbury, car
parking, including in the adjacent under cover car park is free for two hours, but you still have to display a ticket. Much better.
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Follow Up By: Murray48 - Thursday, Sep 08, 2016 at 16:49
Thursday, Sep 08, 2016 at 16:49
The
carpark in question has had meters since at least the eighties.
If I recall correctly, it may have even been the first
carpark in
Geraldton to get them.
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Follow Up By: Member - Ups and Downs - Friday, Sep 09, 2016 at 08:48
Friday, Sep 09, 2016 at 08:48
vk1dx states 'We may get casual with signs when on
home turf, but when somewhere new it pays to try and read them twice.'
So true. I collected my 1st
parking fine recently at the Bunbury CBD car park.
I saw the Free for 2 hours but didn't see the reference to getting a ticket.
Literally there for 10 minutes and came back to a fine of, I think, $30.
Paul
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Reply By: marty d - Wednesday, Sep 07, 2016 at 15:05
Wednesday, Sep 07, 2016 at 15:05
The
Adelaide city council , like many others practicaly abolished free
parking years ago , then kept increasing the prices to a point that now if you don't have to go to the CBD you don't !. Now they are crying about lack of people/shoppers coming to town and have proposed
parking happy hours/days to lure business back , to late fella's you've burnt me and theres better options !.
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Reply By: The Bantam - Sunday, Sep 11, 2016 at 11:45
Sunday, Sep 11, 2016 at 11:45
Now this raises an interesting point ...... If this is a privately owned
carpark ..... it must be noted that private individuals and companies are not legally entitled to levy fines and penalties in Australia, though many will sucessfully try it on.
It is covered by a federal act .... cant remember the name off the top of my head, but it is the xxxx sundry xxxx act, that covers the conduct of many business and government matters.
There is an argument that Local councils are not entitled to levy fines on the basis that they are not recognised as government in the constitution and are in fact private corporations ( or like) ...... but that is a more obtuse argument.
The above does not represent legal advice.
cheers
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Follow Up By: Frank P (NSW) - Tuesday, Sep 13, 2016 at 16:45
Tuesday, Sep 13, 2016 at 16:45
I like your line of thinking, Bantam, but I can't afford the lawyer I would need to pursue it. Not for a $30 fine anyway.
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Follow Up By: The Bantam - Tuesday, Sep 13, 2016 at 23:19
Tuesday, Sep 13, 2016 at 23:19
There are a lot of fines and penalties levied both by private companies and governments that would not stand up to a properly framed defence.
Those that are trying this on are depending on both ignorance and the fact that people will not persue the matter.
The whole banking industry got a heavy spanking a little while ago because they where applying punitive penalties on their customers on things like late fees and bounced cheques ..... several of the banks had to refund large sums of money.
There was a thing with towing scams a while back that hit the fan ...... people
parking illegally would be towed and charged rediculous sums to get their vehicles back ..... there is still some $#!^ going on with this.
Private individuals and companies are only entitled to charge reasonable costs.
cheers
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Reply By: Dean K3 - Sunday, Sep 11, 2016 at 16:21
Sunday, Sep 11, 2016 at 16:21
quite a few shopping centres in WA do this your typically allowed 2 hrs maximum after this you must pay but you still have to obtain a ticket from vending machine.
Victoria park centro is another one I am aware of that has this policy
you probably didn't realise you had to get the ticket otherwise you be ok, ALL public hospitals in
perth metro if you don't purchase a ticket its a $2000 fine defaulted to $250ish if you pay up front within 14 days of fine being presented
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Reply By: Echucan Bob - Monday, Sep 12, 2016 at 07:39
Monday, Sep 12, 2016 at 07:39
I am concerned that so many people accept being treated so poorly by so called "authorities".
Parking fees are collected to pay for the land and bitumen etc.
Parking fines are imposed to discourage people from freeloading. "Authorities" quickly twigged to the fact that fines are a far greater source of revenue than the fees they collect. With no oversight fines can be set at any level and are usually way out of proportion to the magnitude of the "offence". A $76 fine for not paying $1
parking fee? The "authorities" have turned into robber barons and inflict more pain on ordinary citizens than recognised criminals. And before the anal retentives come out and say "if you don't break the rules you don't have a problem" the OP is a perfect example of a person caught out through unfamiliarity with ways of the west. No harm was intended, and they weren't trying to 'save a buck', but cop a fine that would knock a large hole in most people's day. A $30 fine would be fair.
Wake up people, stop councils, state governments, banks etc shafting you. Stop defending their unconscionable, greedy actions.
Bob
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Follow Up By: The Bantam - Tuesday, Sep 13, 2016 at 23:27
Tuesday, Sep 13, 2016 at 23:27
Don't get me started ..... look at current traffic enforcement ...... speeding fines are fund raising pure and simple ...... why would anybody push the engineringly rediculous lie that "every K over is a killer" other than to justify fund raising.
If governments where realy concerned about road safety they would have police on the roads actively enforcing a wide range of offences every day ... not just the ones that are easy and cheap to enforce.
Oh yeh and anybody noticed that in QLD at least they have manipulated the penalty thresholds to maximise the return on lower range speeding.
cheers
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Reply By: Ron N - Wednesday, Sep 14, 2016 at 22:50
Wednesday, Sep 14, 2016 at 22:50
The OP might want to study up on the information on the site below.
Private car park fines
These car park owners are straight-out rorters, pure and simple. Make their "fine" collection as difficult as possible.
You may be in breach of contract by not paying for your time in the car park, but the contract conditions must be made clear to you upon entry to the car park.
Incidentally, I am very careful of where I park nowadays.
After having been savaged more than once, by the best of the best, as far as vicious councils go (
Perth City Council and Subiaco City Council) I am "once-burnt, twice shy".
My best efforts were $100 for
parking in a loading zone in the CBD on late Sat afternoon, for all of 5 mins (the vultures were waiting in hiding) - and $50 (quite a few years ago), for
parking on the verge at the
Perth Royal Show.
Seen people regularly done for $200 for
parking in a Clearway after 4:00PM. Not seeing/reading the
parking signage, is no excuse.
Cheers, Ron.
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