King George Falls

Submitted: Thursday, Sep 08, 2016 at 00:06
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Has anyone driven into the King George Falls, and if so, have the GPS coordinates of the track off what is commonly called the Carson Track? I have the relevant permit, but have not been able to ascertain if there is a track in, or one has to walk.
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Reply By: ExplorOz Team - Michelle - Thursday, Sep 08, 2016 at 11:45

Thursday, Sep 08, 2016 at 11:45
Hi PhilD, if you use EOTopo maps you'll be able to see this track and its junctions (there's a couple coming off the Kalumburu Rd). EOTopo online also shows you the cooridnates at your cursor (and for greater zoom I've switched to streets & then satellite) and noted the coordinates for you.

If you're approaching the Carson River Road (Carson Track) from the north (ie. driving from Kalumburu, then the main track exit on your left is found at -14.4445 126.6649. If you're coming up from the south (ie. from Drysdale) then you'll first cross the Carson Creek and then there's 2 turns on the right (you can take either) before the main turn I mentioned above. They all link up on the Carson Track. The first one looks to be the most used from the satellite pics - and is found at -14.4492 126.6643.

If you open the Place page for the junction of the Kalumburu Road & Carson Creek and open the tab that shows you the map, you can do as I did - go full page, zoom in and change to satellite map. Note the cursor as you move over the map shows the coordinates in the bottom left of the map window. Hope this helps!
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Follow Up By: PhilD - Thursday, Sep 08, 2016 at 11:59

Thursday, Sep 08, 2016 at 11:59
Thanks Michelle. The junction I am asking about is whether there is a track off the Carson Track up near the King George Falls that leads to the falls themselves. The turnoff you are referring to is the main one/s to get out past the old homestead to the Drysdale River crossing or the National Park, whichever way one goes.
I will have a look at the EOTopo to see if a track shows to the falls.
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Reply By: ExplorOz Team - Michelle - Thursday, Sep 08, 2016 at 12:09

Thursday, Sep 08, 2016 at 12:09
Sorry, yes I wasn't sure which part you were looking for. I sure hope the permit gives you some specifics or you can make contact to discuss this directly with the locals. Looking at the satellite map you don't want to be wandering around there without knowing where you should be. You can see a few tracks in the satellite imagery leading part of the way, but nothing directly to the falls. From what I've gathered by reading blogs etc is that the drive in is along extremely rocky river beds. Hopefully someone on here has been out there and will respond.
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Reply By: Michaeljp - Thursday, Sep 08, 2016 at 14:00

Thursday, Sep 08, 2016 at 14:00
There seems to be a track on google earth about 10km south of the falls. It looks like it crosses black soil plains in places so it would have to be a late season trip. If you have the time to follow the track on google earth it may show a start and end point. I cant see a track that goes to the falls them selves. The falls look like they are up on a plateau so a track would be out of the question id say.
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Reply By: Member - eighty matey - Thursday, Sep 08, 2016 at 20:06

Thursday, Sep 08, 2016 at 20:06
G'day PhilD,

try this link for a good read by Werner.

How hard was it to get the permit? Is it for the whole track from Kalumburu to Home Hill? Was it from Kalumburu, Kunnunurra or elsewhere?
We've been looking at working out a trip along the Carson River Track for a few years but it's not easy to sort out. It was hard to get in there before but now Colin Morgan is running tag alongs through there private trips are near impossible.

I'll be keen to hear back from you.

Steve
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Follow Up By: PhilD - Thursday, Sep 08, 2016 at 20:29

Thursday, Sep 08, 2016 at 20:29
Steve, many thanks. As you indicate the situation is interesting.
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Reply By: Peter_n_Margaret - Thursday, Sep 08, 2016 at 22:35

Thursday, Sep 08, 2016 at 22:35
We visited the KG falls in 2006.
You can not drive to the falls. We drove to the KG River and walked the last 11km (each way). In hind sight it may have been possible to drive another 5 or 6km max. (with difficulty). The last bit (5km or so) is large broken rock.
The turnoff is (very roughly) at S14d 08m 40s, E127d 18m 20s. It was quite difficult to see and the track was overgrown, but that was 10 years ago, so it might be very different now.






Was it worth the effort????
ABSOLUTELY!

Cheers,
Peter
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Follow Up By: PhilD - Thursday, Sep 08, 2016 at 23:18

Thursday, Sep 08, 2016 at 23:18
Peter, many thanks for that helpful information. It will be interesting to know what the access is like currently. I have seen the falls from the water, but would love to come in by land.
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Reply By: Neil S - Friday, Sep 09, 2016 at 11:06

Friday, Sep 09, 2016 at 11:06
Hi PhilD.
Two years ago I drove to with in 4.5 km of the falls.
There is a turn off from the carson river track 14 08 37.64S 127 18 16.28E it will take you down to the river . you can then drive along the river. I think Ronnie has made a track along the creek . It had been cut not long before I got in there i gather for their tag alongs.
You can drive to 14 04 47.06S 127 18 26.81E and camp on a sandy beach on the river .
It is a 4.5 km walk to the top of the falls. I did not walk all the way to the top as I have been there before from the water and climbed up.
It is horrible country to walk in and you need to be fit.
I drove the whole carson river track . this is the best 4wd track in the country .
You can get into the berkeley river gorge which is fantastic.
The track is very hard to follow around the delancourt river as it gets washed away.
I spent 12 days on the track and didn't see anyone for 11 days .
I was by myself. you need to be set up for remote travel .
I have GPS coords for the whole track some I couldn't find.
The durack crossing is all bolders. the climb out of the south bank of the forest river is very steep and rock steps.

Hope this helps
Regards Neil S
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Follow Up By: PhilD - Friday, Sep 09, 2016 at 16:04

Friday, Sep 09, 2016 at 16:04
Hi Neil, many many thanks for this info. It is very helpful and means I might make it to the top of the falls! Like you I have seen them from the bottom. Is it too much to ask to get a copy of the GPS coordinates for the whole track? My email is pdewingatdewings.com.au.
Phil
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Reply By: Neil S - Sunday, Sep 11, 2016 at 20:41

Sunday, Sep 11, 2016 at 20:41
I don't have electronic copies . I can scan some of my info and email to you.
I got most of my info off google earth.
The track will change each year around the rivers .
When are you going.
Give me a couple of days and i will send you info.
regards neil
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Follow Up By: PhilD - Sunday, Sep 11, 2016 at 21:41

Sunday, Sep 11, 2016 at 21:41
Hi Neil, many thanks. I am only getting ready for next year, so that will be great.
Phil
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Reply By: Neil S - Tuesday, Sep 20, 2016 at 21:14

Tuesday, Sep 20, 2016 at 21:14
Hi Phil .
I tried to send you info last night but the system couldn't find your email address pdewingatdewings.com.au.which i gather should be pdewing@dewings.com.au.
Please advise
Regards Neil
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Follow Up By: PhilD - Tuesday, Sep 20, 2016 at 23:31

Tuesday, Sep 20, 2016 at 23:31
Hi Neil,
That is correct. I used the at as I thought the system would not accept @ but I am obviously wrong!
Many thanks,
Phil
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Reply By: Neil S - Monday, Oct 03, 2016 at 20:18

Monday, Oct 03, 2016 at 20:18
Hi Phil . I can even get a test to that email address it bounces back .
Regards neil
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Follow Up By: PhilD - Monday, Oct 03, 2016 at 21:18

Monday, Oct 03, 2016 at 21:18
Hi Neil,
I don't know what is causing the problem. Please use pd@dewings.com.au and pdewing@dewings.com.au, and we will see how it goes. They both work!
Thanks,
Phil
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