New tent needed - help wanted

Submitted: Thursday, Sep 29, 2016 at 15:30
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Hey guys, Our family of 5 need a new tent. Our Oztrail fast frame lasted one night in the strong wind and our black wolf turbo is too big for the boot.

What we want:
* a tent that sleeps 5 ( i realise in reality we will need a 9 person or greater) with an area to store stuff as well
* a wet area section eg the black wolf has a pathetic awning that doesn't allow for bad weather
* ideally about 4m X 3m or larger
* we are going for 3 months camping so price is lower down on priority as opposed to quality, functionality, easy of packing away/setting up and a smaller pack up size than the black wolf turbo 240
* not sure about canvas or nylon - you hear different things
* we have seen a Roman Explorer 9 Extended Dome Tent that seems to fit the bill but not sure about this brand or quality - like the geodesic design though

any advice or experiences would be greatly appreciated.

thanks, neil
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Reply By: Les - PK Ranger - Thursday, Sep 29, 2016 at 15:51

Thursday, Sep 29, 2016 at 15:51
Minefield you've entered Neil :)

Personally feel there is no perfect tent, there is always a compromise to be had.
An extended tourer would be my pic, or better, get several 3 second Malamoo type tents, 2, 3, 4 man available.
This might not be practical with weather issues over 3 months, or if there are numerous very little children tha need to go in with mum and dad.

I'd say the only answer for your post points above is a multi roomed dome type tent.

The big drawbacks here are weight (though not much more than say an Oztrail), and the biggy, they take so long to put up and pack up.
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Reply By: JR - Thursday, Sep 29, 2016 at 16:31

Thursday, Sep 29, 2016 at 16:31
Freedom camping have heavy duty touring tents, not cheap.
Buy a good basic tent for essential sleeping, awnings and storage can be added or done cheaper
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Follow Up By: neil p5 - Thursday, Sep 29, 2016 at 16:42

Thursday, Sep 29, 2016 at 16:42
Thanks, Had a quick squiz - ventilation could be an issue? Only 1 window I could see in the 4m X 3m one?
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Follow Up By: JR - Thursday, Sep 29, 2016 at 17:40

Thursday, Sep 29, 2016 at 17:40
No, they have door, 2 side openings and a big three way window
opposite door. It has clear plastic, flyscreen and internal cover so window can be opened from inside
All four have full zips so properly watertight

Nice setup
Downside is heavy and expensive but they are long term option
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Follow Up By: neil p5 - Thursday, Sep 29, 2016 at 21:52

Thursday, Sep 29, 2016 at 21:52
Thanks for your reply. You are not wrong about the price!
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Reply By: Mikee5 - Thursday, Sep 29, 2016 at 18:02

Thursday, Sep 29, 2016 at 18:02
Have you thought about two smaller tents instead? One just for the kids sleeping zone. Just an idea, it is how we used to do it.
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Follow Up By: neil p5 - Thursday, Sep 29, 2016 at 21:53

Thursday, Sep 29, 2016 at 21:53
Thanks but keen to be in the one tent together
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Reply By: Bob Y. - Qld - Thursday, Sep 29, 2016 at 20:05

Thursday, Sep 29, 2016 at 20:05
What about a couple of Oztents, linked together like this photo?



Just need some of the joining bits to set it up.

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Follow Up By: neil p5 - Thursday, Sep 29, 2016 at 21:53

Thursday, Sep 29, 2016 at 21:53
Thanks but boot space is limited so prob not an option
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Reply By: oz doc - Thursday, Sep 29, 2016 at 20:37

Thursday, Sep 29, 2016 at 20:37
Hi Neil, have a look at the "outdoor connection " range. We have their "weekender" tent which scored highly with choice magazine a few years back . They have larger models which would fit your brief. We found that our tent was extremely well made- surviving extensive use without obvious wear or tear. Completely waterproof and sound in high winds. It had numerous excellent design features including the bag it came in(opened right out so was easy to get everything back into it again). On top of this it was quite cheap compared to similar others. We had a geodesic years ago but it was not a patch on this one. Cheers doc.
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Follow Up By: Les - PK Ranger - Thursday, Sep 29, 2016 at 21:18

Thursday, Sep 29, 2016 at 21:18
I have the Escape 6 dome of theirs.

It is a well designed / well made base camp tent, really good ventilation and weather barriers in the design of the front vestibule section and awning.
I also have one side weather triangle filler piece that is fitted to further stop weather from the wind side.

Really haven't used it more than a few times, I am more of a tourer, not a base camper.
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Follow Up By: neil p5 - Thursday, Sep 29, 2016 at 21:51

Thursday, Sep 29, 2016 at 21:51
Thanks. I will check them out.
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Follow Up By: neil p5 - Friday, Sep 30, 2016 at 08:12

Friday, Sep 30, 2016 at 08:12
Question for you, we have had a geodesic and traditional dome and found the geodesic far superior so was interested in hearing you say these tents are better then the geodesic - why did you say that?

neil
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Follow Up By: oz doc - Friday, Sep 30, 2016 at 10:26

Friday, Sep 30, 2016 at 10:26
We found the "weekender" better on a couple of fronts. The pole design is a "H" pattern. This translates to less sloping around the edges and so more effective room where you can stand up fully. It also means no poles crossing over the window area and therefor much larger Windows which provide greater ventilation in hot weather. The lower part of side windows can be left open to prevent condensation , whilst keeping the tent fully rain proof. It it much easier and quicker to set up than our geodesic. That said - our geodesic was a newish concept when we bought in back in1997- so the design of these tents may have come a long way since then. Doc
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Reply By: RBH - Friday, Sep 30, 2016 at 08:39

Friday, Sep 30, 2016 at 08:39
We had a Freedom Tourer pre-kids and loved it, but currently have a camper trailer. I checked out these tents a while ago in a camping shop in Armidale and was pretty impressed. I'd look seriously at them if doing a longer trip without the trailer.
http://www.longwayleisure.com.au/products/flex-bow-canvas-tents
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Reply By: Baz - The Landy - Friday, Sep 30, 2016 at 08:57

Friday, Sep 30, 2016 at 08:57
Take a look at the Southern Cross range of canvas tents, we’ve had one for 15 years and still serves us well when we use it.

Mind you, they won't come cheap, but you get quality for your money...

What caught my attention was your requirement to have something that fits 5 people, and importantly will withstand strong winds. We have had our Southern Cross up in atrocious weather and high winds and never once did it feel like it would fail us…

You might like to take a look at this one.



Good luck with your deliberations,

Baz – The Landy
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Reply By: Winner W - Friday, Sep 30, 2016 at 09:17

Friday, Sep 30, 2016 at 09:17
Coleman instant up 8. I have a 4 and 6 and they are not as heavy and long as the Oz 30 s tent.
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Reply By: Tony F8 - Friday, Sep 30, 2016 at 17:45

Friday, Sep 30, 2016 at 17:45
We have the Coleman Instant Up 6 Gold, if the larger ones are anything like this one, it is an awesome tent, 4 mins set up, rated for 100 kph winds, packs up relatively compact and not a stupid weight to load and unload, do yourself a favor and have a look at them. We trialled them before they were released in Australia.
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Reply By: wendys - Friday, Sep 30, 2016 at 20:22

Friday, Sep 30, 2016 at 20:22
We had a tent made by the Australian Canvas Company, in Bayswater, Melbourne. The company owner had originally been a tent repairer, then he designed his own tents that eliminated most (if not all) of the faults he had to repair.
Ours was a rectangle, about 5mx3m and well high enough to stand up in. We loved its ease of putting up - 6 side poles all the same length and 3 ridge poles all the same. Plus a couple of veranda poles. We bought with it, two side flaps or extensions that zipped onto the sides of the veranda and shaded or extended the outside area. It had side and back windows - straight zips, no wicking of rain inside! Big front door and flyscreen - again straight zips. The flap at bottom of front door had velcro fasteners at the side so it wouldn't tear when tripped over. Was tropical canvas, heavy duty floor. We loved it and used it extensively over some 12 years.
It was not cheap, but we were so happy with the product that when we wanted a smaller tent to put up just for quick overnight stops, we bought their dome tent.
Both tents were packed in an envelope shaped bag which made fitting them back in quite easy.
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Reply By: Member - Emma76 - Tuesday, Oct 04, 2016 at 23:57

Tuesday, Oct 04, 2016 at 23:57
Hi,
I'm a new member and I don't know if this is allowed on this forum, but I am selling an enormous tent on ebay at the moment, it's brand new in box, so I can't comment on how easy it would be to set up.

It's called Large Family Tent Oxygen 10 man, if you search ebay. It's a geodesic design. I bought it for a trip to the Flinders Ranges with a friend of mine who uses a wheel chair and her Aunty, so we wanted the three "bedrooms" as well as the large central area to store the scooter, wheelchair and all our other crap. It has 3 double bedrooms as well as the large central area, like I say I don't know if it's quick to set up, but many hands make light work and if you need a tent this size you must have many hands!!
It's a tent-mahal!

On another note, my partner and I just bought the new Speedy Earth Tent, it's canvas and is almost 3 x 3m, it comes with a large awning and folds up smaller than a 30 sec tent, so fits in our dual cab canopy. We have had it up a couple of times and it is quick and simple. Taking it on it's first trip next week.

Good luck with the tent hunt!
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Follow Up By: Les - PK Ranger - Wednesday, Oct 05, 2016 at 07:32

Wednesday, Oct 05, 2016 at 07:32
Emma76, did you get this one Speedy Earth Tent . . .
Another review and more pics
Looks good, Oz tent copy, maybe with more ventilation ?
Practical looking extensions available
Saw a reference to just under $2000 in the cravancampingsales review, didn't have a chance to Google around.
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Reply By: Member - Emma76 - Wednesday, Oct 05, 2016 at 11:43

Wednesday, Oct 05, 2016 at 11:43
Yeah Les,
that's the one, if fact, that's probably THE one we bought. We found it on ebay for about 40% off as it was a demo. I'd seen them online but balked at the price, so as soon as I saw the ex demo I bought it straight away. We are taking it on it's first trip next week. It's like an oz tent but bigger and yet folds up smaller, i'll see if I can add some photos from our trip and I might write a review. It's got great windows on all sides. The weather is supposed to be a bit up and down while we are away (Broken Hill, Cameron Corner and Flinders Ranges) so hopefully we can see how it performs in all weather
I did just see that they have released an extension, called a "hub" a great idea for those who want extra space

Cheers
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