2005 Navara d22 zd 30 Hard to start

Submitted: Wednesday, Oct 26, 2016 at 21:59
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When cranking my zd 30 the Tacho bounces and when i do get it started the engine light stays on.I have put a new battery in because it seems like the starter motor cranks slow.I took it to a mechanic and has told me it has 2 faults,crank angle sensor and injector pump.I gave the go ahead and put the crank angle sensor in with no success.Any other idea's
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Reply By: Life Member TourBoy, Bundaberg - Thursday, Oct 27, 2016 at 06:54

Thursday, Oct 27, 2016 at 06:54
Were the codes cleared after the new battery and crank angle sensor were fitted to see if it throws new codes?
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Follow Up By: Mark R1 - Thursday, Oct 27, 2016 at 07:44

Thursday, Oct 27, 2016 at 07:44
I think so Tourboy.Its still at the mechanic's and will talk to him today.Cheers
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Reply By: terryt - Thursday, Oct 27, 2016 at 07:01

Thursday, Oct 27, 2016 at 07:01
injector pump?
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Follow Up By: Mark R1 - Thursday, Oct 27, 2016 at 07:54

Thursday, Oct 27, 2016 at 07:54
I hope not mate.The mechanic is saying it still cranks slow even with the new battery.I might fit a new starter motor and if that doesn't help I,ll bring it home and think about it. I havn't got the money to replace things willy/nilly.
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Follow Up By: Life Member TourBoy, Bundaberg - Thursday, Oct 27, 2016 at 08:02

Thursday, Oct 27, 2016 at 08:02
If the starter is at fault the slow crank may throw up injector codes, not enough pressure maybe.

How long does it take to fire up? Does it smoke? run rough? power? Has EGR and intercooler manifold etc been cleaned of carbon/oil mist buildup?
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Follow Up By: Mark R1 - Thursday, Oct 27, 2016 at 20:55

Thursday, Oct 27, 2016 at 20:55
Hi Tourboy,it takes about 20 to 30 sec to get the motor to start as long as the battery is fully charged.The starter seems to wind faster the longer you crank it.Sometimes it blows smoke.I,m not sure about the later part of your Question.When starting hot,sometimes the engine light will disappear and then will restart straight up and the next time it won,t.
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Reply By: RMD - Thursday, Oct 27, 2016 at 09:03

Thursday, Oct 27, 2016 at 09:03
If it cranks slow AND you have a new battery, the only pieces left are the leads and connections in the start cables, (never big enough even when new). Made to a minimum spec.
While cranking a decent mechanic will check for voltage drop across each cable run before replacing starter motor. However it could be the starter very dry in it's bearings or poor brush contact.
It seems no one these days ever removes and services starter motors and cleans and lubricates them with decent lube oil and grease in geared sections.
If you do it makes and amazing difference if lube is the problem.
If the starter is sound but dry it is cheaper to lube a starter than buy a new one.

After that is functioning correctly other problems may not be there.
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Follow Up By: Mark R1 - Thursday, Oct 27, 2016 at 12:52

Thursday, Oct 27, 2016 at 12:52
I,m not sure what tests he has done.Your right in saying they don't service many items these day's.I will see the mechanic tomorrow and find out how the starter goesThanks
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Reply By: swampy - Thursday, Oct 27, 2016 at 14:35

Thursday, Oct 27, 2016 at 14:35
hi
I feel your pain .
I have a FORD Ranger 3.0lt with the same fuel system . I have also a poor starting . rough start or no start
Battery check
Injector bleed off check
check compressions
Rectify all codes ,some codes are only a symptom of problem
check for blown head gasket
Pressure relief valve bleeding off excessively ?? / bench test pump
check contamination in tank
check tank breathers
check for bubbles in fuel lines [at primer]
check fuel /air leak engine fuel lines
tomo
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Follow Up By: Mark R1 - Thursday, Oct 27, 2016 at 20:44

Thursday, Oct 27, 2016 at 20:44
Hi Swampy.The testing these days can't track the problem to one part of the system.It seems like the auto shops do well out of supplying parts{that you don't really need} just keep replacing them until something works.Cheers mate,goodluck.
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Reply By: Mark R1 - Friday, Oct 28, 2016 at 19:08

Friday, Oct 28, 2016 at 19:08
Thanks everyone for your input.The new starter did the trick.As soon as you hit the key it starts.You don,t realise how slow the old starter motor was.Cheers
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Reply By: Corncob - Wednesday, Dec 07, 2016 at 22:12

Wednesday, Dec 07, 2016 at 22:12
Starter motor taking too much power out of the system, very common,new starter
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