All 4 Adventure do Maralinga

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We do Maralinga a lot on this forum ............ but for an interesting warts and all take on Maralinga can I suggest watching tenplay: Series 8, Episode 1
http://tenplay.com.au/channel-ten/all-4-adventure
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Reply By: Allan B (Member, SunCoast) - Monday, Oct 31, 2016 at 20:27

Monday, Oct 31, 2016 at 20:27
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Golly gee.........that was fun!



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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Monday, Oct 31, 2016 at 21:07

Monday, Oct 31, 2016 at 21:07
Gday Allan, they did make it entertaining! That troopie used to live inside the Airfield building but had been moved last time I was there. They didn't have time for lots of stuff buts thats OK - leave something for next time. Glad those guys have finally discovered there is stuff outside Queensland! Next thing they will be wearing Blundstones :-)
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Reply By: Member - Blue M - Monday, Oct 31, 2016 at 20:27

Monday, Oct 31, 2016 at 20:27
I watched it Sunday afternoon, what they showed of it was very interesting.
I now have the recorder set up now to catch the rest of their shows.

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Reply By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Monday, Oct 31, 2016 at 20:43

Monday, Oct 31, 2016 at 20:43
Thanks Phil


That was an interesting watch.




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Reply By: Frank P (NSW) - Monday, Oct 31, 2016 at 20:47

Monday, Oct 31, 2016 at 20:47
Unwatchable commercial dross.

What a pair of wallies.
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Monday, Oct 31, 2016 at 21:03

Monday, Oct 31, 2016 at 21:03
Yep, fair comment Frank.
But having been to Maralinga a couple of times over the past 10 years I saw stuff there I hadn't seen before.
Good to see them pull up at Knowles Cave - we were camped there last month.
But like all good travellers there was stuff they missed that they can check out next time!
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Follow Up By: KiwiAngler - Tuesday, Nov 01, 2016 at 08:52

Tuesday, Nov 01, 2016 at 08:52
Frank P

And yet you watched it - or at least some of it ??
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Follow Up By: Frank P (NSW) - Tuesday, Nov 01, 2016 at 09:30

Tuesday, Nov 01, 2016 at 09:30
Well, you have to watch at least some of it to form an opinion, don't you.

I watched about 5 minutes. I wanted to watch more, but 5 minutes was as much of those buffoons as I could tolerate.

I might have another go, as reports by some knowledgeable people here suggest there is some worthwhile content.
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Follow Up By: garrycol - Tuesday, Nov 01, 2016 at 11:13

Tuesday, Nov 01, 2016 at 11:13
They are better and more entertaining than Nanna Pat and virtually no overt advertising within the show itself unlike most of the other shows.

There is covert advertising - note the Woolies stuff in the bench when the cooking segment is on.
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Follow Up By: Allan B (Member, SunCoast) - Tuesday, Nov 01, 2016 at 13:37

Tuesday, Nov 01, 2016 at 13:37
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I think that the historic events of Maralinga are rather too sombre to be the subject of a circus clown act.
It should be presented as Robin does, as interesting heritage without being foolish.

And yes, I did need to watch the whole episode if I were to make comment.
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Follow Up By: Steve in Kakadu - Tuesday, Nov 01, 2016 at 14:20

Tuesday, Nov 01, 2016 at 14:20
Haters are going to hate, the boys are havin fun and leave a lot of those other shows for dead.
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Follow Up By: Frank P (NSW) - Tuesday, Nov 01, 2016 at 15:02

Tuesday, Nov 01, 2016 at 15:02
In Followup 875329 I wrote

"I might have another go, as reports by some knowledgeable people here suggest there is some worthwhile content."

I've now watched the whole lot. I'm afraid I haven't changed my opinion.

Horses for courses, I guess.
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Reply By: gerard m2 - Monday, Oct 31, 2016 at 22:20

Monday, Oct 31, 2016 at 22:20
I quite liked the show - it was pretty entertaining and has probably motivated me to have a look at Maralinga
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Reply By: Idler Chris - Tuesday, Nov 01, 2016 at 10:41

Tuesday, Nov 01, 2016 at 10:41
They are a pair of clowns. They show you how to cook and how NOT to drive. I would have thought that to most people who have not been to the places they go, would be left wondering where the hell they are. Its not hard to show a map of where they are or even say the name of the places they are at. I enjoyed the show however, because having been to the same places it is a reminder of my trips there. Will watch the next show as they play in the Billbunya sand dunes which should be great.

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Reply By: allein m - Tuesday, Nov 01, 2016 at 10:47

Tuesday, Nov 01, 2016 at 10:47
There is a lot of people out there who for many reasons cannot get to the many places this show and many others like it go to , so this gives them the opportunity to see the real Australia.

The show has improved a lot and will continue to do so

the guys took a risk and put there money down and made the show at least they are having a go which is a positive thing in such a negative world
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Follow Up By: KiwiAngler - Tuesday, Nov 01, 2016 at 11:21

Tuesday, Nov 01, 2016 at 11:21
Alleim


Totally agree


I dont see them as "buffoons" or "wallies" as some previous posters have

What happened to the - "lets give it a go - may not work out as well as we planned but as long as no one gets hurt and we learn from it while having some fun " approach?

When did we becone such ccynic?
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Follow Up By: Allan B (Member, SunCoast) - Tuesday, Nov 01, 2016 at 11:38

Tuesday, Nov 01, 2016 at 11:38
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They are a bit different to the Leyland Brothers aren't they?

But without wishing to be "cynical", there were some factual errors in their presentation. The most significant was that the aboriginal family were not found "within the bomb crater". They were actually discovered a "couple of hundred yards" from the crater. Still not a good campsite!
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Follow Up By: allein m - Tuesday, Nov 01, 2016 at 14:04

Tuesday, Nov 01, 2016 at 14:04
Leyland Brothers were an excellent show

there ideas were original and hard work in those days no air in the vehicles if you broke down you fixed it or walked

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Follow Up By: oetkb - Tuesday, Nov 01, 2016 at 18:26

Tuesday, Nov 01, 2016 at 18:26
Great show in my opinion, They get out there and have a go, they love their fishing and are more than happy to show you where they catch them. Over a few episodes I've watched them back off from their intended destination due to unacceptable risks. Yep they make a few mistakes, like we all do but at least they have the honesty to leave it in the show and not edit it out to make them look like hero's. Take the tidal river drama where they admitted to doing one more run for the camera man and got bogged, rolled a vehicle etc. They could have edited it all out but instead they showed it and hopefully others will learn from it. My wife and I spent a bit of time talking to Jason and his wife at a show a few months ago and they are both the nicest people, we asked a lot of questions and got straight honest answers.
Just a note. Its easy to have a crack at people that are trying to make a go of it from the comfort of your lounge room chair. If they were track destroying idiots then Id say give em a spray. If they were massively pushing their sponsors then you could whinge but I fail to see what these guys do that has upset a few here.
BTW I have no connection to this show but feel free to explain what they are doing wrong.
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Follow Up By: KiwiAngler - Tuesday, Nov 01, 2016 at 18:32

Tuesday, Nov 01, 2016 at 18:32
Well said - totally agree

Where would Australia and the world be if we were all so scared about making a mistake in our endeavors

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Follow Up By: Shaker - Tuesday, Nov 01, 2016 at 18:34

Tuesday, Nov 01, 2016 at 18:34
You have to remember that some here have been everywhere, can drive better, tow better, cook better & have much more experience!
Or have they?

Personally, I find the show very good & entertaining, I just wish they would at least wear shoes!


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Follow Up By: Steve in Kakadu - Tuesday, Nov 01, 2016 at 20:01

Tuesday, Nov 01, 2016 at 20:01
Hey Shaker I hate shoes and have walked the outback for 40+ years barefoot.

Free the feet lol.

Absolutely agree oetkb

The only people that would have a problem with these guys are those that are to comfortable in their arm chairs.

Get out there have fun and leave the WH&S to the pen pushers.

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Reply By: Member - mechpete - Tuesday, Nov 01, 2016 at 12:31

Tuesday, Nov 01, 2016 at 12:31
I think the submarine landcruiser should be
moved out of the weather as it is a very important
piece of the history of Maralinga
don,t think there humour worked in that instant
I heard the Aboriginal family was in fact found in the crater
according to Robin
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Follow Up By: Allan B (Member, SunCoast) - Tuesday, Nov 01, 2016 at 13:25

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Hi Pete,

Of all the Aboriginal issues regarding Emu and Maralinga the most infamous was the Milpuddie family, Charlie, Edie, Henry and Rosie together with their four dogs, who, on the 15 May 1957, were found camped alongside the Marcoo bomb crater.

In the video of this thread you will see that the crater is too steep to be able to enter or exit.

Either you misheard Robin or he described the event incorrectly. The authoritative accounts of the event are all as I have related above.
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Follow Up By: Idler Chris - Tuesday, Nov 01, 2016 at 13:50

Tuesday, Nov 01, 2016 at 13:50
When you stand around the crater, Robin will in fact tell you that the family was found in the crater. I think its Robin just stretching the truth a bit as it sounds more interesting. One look at the crater tells you that that story is most unlikely as it is so steep.

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Follow Up By: garrycol - Tuesday, Nov 01, 2016 at 15:52

Tuesday, Nov 01, 2016 at 15:52
Crikey - in the scheme of things does it matter if they were in or near the crater.
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Follow Up By: Allan B (Member, SunCoast) - Tuesday, Nov 01, 2016 at 16:01

Tuesday, Nov 01, 2016 at 16:01
Obviously, not to you it doesn't.
Just change the facts of history a bit at a time.
Before you know it, the Sydney Harbour Bridge was bought on eBay! lol

Hey, wasn't that a great Melbourne Cup win by Heartbreak city?
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Follow Up By: Member - Ross N (NSW) - Tuesday, Nov 01, 2016 at 22:01

Tuesday, Nov 01, 2016 at 22:01
Whether correct or not I heard Robin say they were found at the bottom of the crater collecting water from a puddle in the bottom.
Facts can often get in the way of a good story.
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Follow Up By: Allan B (Member, SunCoast) - Tuesday, Nov 01, 2016 at 23:41

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Well Ross, Robin is running a tourism operation, isn't he?

The recorded facts of the event is that Captain Rudi Marquer spotted Charlie some distance from the crater indicating that he wanted water. He then led Rudi to the camp where his wife and children were waiting. They were all then taken to the nearby health physics caravan. ................ and it goes on from there.

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Follow Up By: Member - Boobook - Wednesday, Nov 02, 2016 at 10:58

Wednesday, Nov 02, 2016 at 10:58
Robin does tell the version of the story where the family was in the crater. He even pointed out to us that this is the version handed down in the community.

Officially there was initially no family. It came out in the royal commission that the reports had been falsified, and only kangaroos were reported in the area after blasts. Under questioning, the most senior Australian present at the time admitted that all the reports were incorrect, and there was a family "near" Marcoo. And the reports were not true. It would have killed the whole program. Other documents talk about in the crater.

The wife had a miscarriage soon after.

Who knows what really happened, but I'll bet the whole truth never came out in the Government documents and royal commission.
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Follow Up By: Allan B (Member, SunCoast) - Wednesday, Nov 02, 2016 at 11:40

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Yes Boobook, the whole Emu/Maralinga saga is riddled with misinformation. One can only digest the recorded accounts and form an opinion based largely on probability.

Accordingly, look at the photo below of the Marcoo crater. Would anyone enter that, and if they did, could they ever get out again?

Garrycol said above "...does it matter if they were in or near the crater?"
Well it may matter if it becomes incorrectly established then later making considerations based on that. It has been said that "He who writes history creates history".
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Follow Up By: Member - Boobook - Wednesday, Nov 02, 2016 at 12:05

Wednesday, Nov 02, 2016 at 12:05
Yeah I don't really know Allan.

But if you asked me if the 2 people in that photo were in or out of the crater, I would say in. Not right in, at the bottom, but definitely in.

Whatever, I wouldn't be standing there. That is the only thing I can say for sure about the whole topic.

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Follow Up By: Baz - The Landy - Wednesday, Nov 02, 2016 at 13:27

Wednesday, Nov 02, 2016 at 13:27
What history should remember is that a proud peoples' land was destroyed forever...!

Perhaps it would be better to reflect on that rather than a moot point of whether they were in the crater created by the "civilised's world" instrument of destruction.

And whilst we debate the finer points of history a group of first Australian's still suffer from the cancerous effects of what the exposure to radiation inflicted on them...

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Follow Up By: Allan B (Member, SunCoast) - Wednesday, Nov 02, 2016 at 15:22

Wednesday, Nov 02, 2016 at 15:22
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Baz, I agree totally with you. In order to respect the interests of the original owners it is important that facts relating to this land and its treatment be recorded and maintained in truth. This is the reason that I reacted to the 'All 4 Adventure' video presented in the Original Post. It treated the subject frivolously and with errors. I don't consider it a "moot point".

If history is to be respected as true then it must be accurate. Discard "finer points" and you change the facts. I have done a great deal of study of the British atomic tests on Australian soil so please do not include me as being ignorant or uncaring of what was inflicted on the Aboriginal occupants.
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Reply By: Member - bbuzz (NSW) - Tuesday, Nov 01, 2016 at 12:31

Tuesday, Nov 01, 2016 at 12:31
Hi, Missed the episode.
Does anybody know if there will a repeat later in the week?

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Follow Up By: Member - bbuzz (NSW) - Tuesday, Nov 01, 2016 at 12:34

Tuesday, Nov 01, 2016 at 12:34
Found it!
Saturday 5th November at 12.00 pm. on ONE

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Reply By: Member - Blue M - Wednesday, Nov 02, 2016 at 04:23

Wednesday, Nov 02, 2016 at 04:23
Gee, reading this post is more entertaining than watching the show.

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