Getting to Jellabinna Rocks and around Yellabinna

Submitted: Sunday, Jan 08, 2017 at 16:48
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Looking at Google and Bing sat photos, there are quite a few tracks around Yellabinna, including to Jellabinna Rocks from Googs.

None of these tracks are to be found on any map I have.

Can anyone tell me if the tracks in the area are drivable?, especially from Googs Lakes and then from the Rocks North to the Railway and South to the Highway ( Euria Well??)

Any information would be great.
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Reply By: Member - Boobook - Monday, Jan 09, 2017 at 16:57

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Deathly silence
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Follow Up By: Allan B (Member, SunCoast) - Monday, Jan 09, 2017 at 19:00

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Hey Boobook, I'm just reading Jenny Denton's book "Goog's Track".
If I come across anything I'll let you know. LOL
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Follow Up By: Member - Boobook - Monday, Jan 09, 2017 at 19:20

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Is it an interesting read Allan?
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Follow Up By: Allan B (Member, SunCoast) - Monday, Jan 09, 2017 at 22:47

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Yes Boo. It's entertaining. The full title is "My Memories of Pushing Goog's Track".
So it is an account of building the track with Jenny relating her memories of how it came about, the anecdotes of the events during building it over 4 years and the family interactions. She also describes the many points of interest along its course.
Not a Guide Book with km's along the way of course, but it will make me appreciate the track more the next time I travel on it.
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Monday, Jan 09, 2017 at 17:14

Monday, Jan 09, 2017 at 17:14
Yes deathly silence!
I've been part way up that track when we were doing some volunteer work some years back. The track was in good nick, but nothing exciting out there.
You'll need to chat to the DEWNR people in Ceduna. I'd guess there is a chance you might end up at the Iluka open cut mine which might be a problem. Best of luck with your planning!
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Follow Up By: Member - Boobook - Monday, Jan 09, 2017 at 17:44

Monday, Jan 09, 2017 at 17:44
Thanks Phil. I can trace some tracks on Bing maps, and This PDF even shows some tracks not marked on any other map I can find.

How far up the track did you go? Was there lots of timber there for wood fires? And do you think it's wide enough to tow the Tvan up there behind the 200?

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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Tuesday, Jan 10, 2017 at 22:01

Tuesday, Jan 10, 2017 at 22:01
The pdf wouldn't open.
I can email you a .plt file.
Only went 22k's up - track in good nick in 2012. Tvan is no problem. I had the Tvan behind the HDJ79 at that time.
Is there firewood - of course its the GVD!!

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Reply By: Idler Chris - Wednesday, Jan 11, 2017 at 15:57

Wednesday, Jan 11, 2017 at 15:57
Jellabinna Rocks is an Aboriginal women’s place. Tried once to get there but ran out of time. Because it is a sacred area visitors are not encouraged. A guy on the Nissan!Forum!got there a few years ago but I can no longer find his post. Because miners have been there, there are tracks everywhere. Because trees over hang the tracks you can plot a course from Google Earth. Unless you can find a track from someone you would have to find it yourself. The way to do it would be to get the location using Google Earth, and there could be more than one possible location. Then with several very well equipped vehicles and plenty of time get out there and look. If you do find it I would suggest you do not share any track files. This is obviously a special area and needs to be preserved. Anyone prepared to take the effort to find Jellabinna Rocks will know to respect it!heritage.

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Follow Up By: Member - Boobook - Wednesday, Jan 11, 2017 at 16:43

Wednesday, Jan 11, 2017 at 16:43
Chris, can you point to something that shows it as a sacred place, I would respect that. I did call the Parks office in Ceduan who manage that park and they didn't mention anything about that, and in fact said you can drive in, but they hadn't done it for years and pointed to the track from the lake. They even show some tracks to it on their information PDF on the park. They are low resolution though. There is no mention of a sacred site in that document either.

I woudl abandon my quest to go there unless it is ok or I have permission and now will investigate that thanks.

I have found that Nissan post, it has some photo and he drove in and out in 2 days. Looks liek an easy track.

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Follow Up By: 9900Eagle - Wednesday, Jan 11, 2017 at 17:32

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Follow Up By: Member - Boobook - Wednesday, Jan 11, 2017 at 18:39

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Thanks. Interesting reading.

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Follow Up By: Idler Chris - Wednesday, Jan 11, 2017 at 20:33

Wednesday, Jan 11, 2017 at 20:33
Thanks Eagle Mr Google failed me.

I tried to find Jellabinna Rocks in 2009 and I ran across that burnt out AMG Mercedes that you see in Plasnart's blog. When I ran out of time and returned to Ceduna and went to the building on the corner of East Terrace and McKenzie St, I don't remember the name of the place. If you where to ring Sportspower on 08 8625 2489, who are on the opposite corner they maybe able to tell the name of the organisation. My intention was to see what further I could find out about Jellabinna Rocks for a look at some other time. I met an aboriginal lady who said she may be able to find a mud map for me. She was unable to find a mud map but got very excited when I told her about the burnt out Mercedes. She tells the story that about a year earlier herself and some friends in the Mercedes where going to Jellabinna Rocks on woman’s business when the Merc caught on fire and was burnt out. The insurance company paid for the removal of the wreck in 2008 and I saw it there in 2009, so she was going to follow up with the insurance company. When she told me it was a women's place I took the same attitude as you as I always wish to respect sacred sites and only visit if allowed or with permission. She said there was no prohibition on going there (remember that was 2010) but I got the feeling it was not encouraged.
Given what she told me I would go there but I would not publish any tracks or photo's out of respect for the local indigenous people.
As far as the track goes it was well corrugated but there are a lot of tracks. Navigation is the biggest issue. If you have a bit if time and are well provisioned then having to do any back tracking will not be a problem.
Jellabinna Rocks is still on my bucket list. Will be going through Ceduna again this year I just might have another crack at it. If you find out it is now off limits I would appreciate if you could let me know.
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Follow Up By: Member - Boobook - Thursday, Jan 12, 2017 at 07:53

Thursday, Jan 12, 2017 at 07:53
Thanks Chris.
The Maralinga Lands Council is further up Mckenzie St, they may have moved. I was told they are the responsible council, however the person on the phone said they were not aware of any permit or restrictions on Jellabinna, but is getting someone who knows more to call me back.

Was the lady in the Lands council? So far both SA parks and the person at the lands council ( possibly the receptionist) are indicating that there are no restrictions. I even found another blog of a traveller who got permission to traverse the entire park without tracks from Maralinga. I'm still not convinced that Maralinga is the right council though. The native borders are clearly set out in NT and WA, even if some are wrong or out of date. I can't find anything similar in SA and no maps show native land borders in the park. Hema is usually pretty good.
I do appreciate your input, It's important to me that I get any right permissions if necessary and this info is exactly what I'm looking for.

There are a few Lands councils that have land near here but I can't find any for that area.

Sometimes I think I like the research as much as the actual trip. I'll keep digging.
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Follow Up By: Idler Chris - Thursday, Jan 12, 2017 at 10:18

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Yes I think the lady I spoke to was from the Lands Council.
Your enquiries have shown there are no restrictions which is consistent with what it was when I attempted to get there. So I would go for it.
Even though there are no restrictions, I know that it is a special place in aboriginal culture so I would treat it as such. You sound as though you think along the same lines as I do.
I was fortunate (lucky) to visit the Calvert Ranges, just of the CSR, and a very special place of the Martu people only months before it was permanently closed. It was closed because some people did not respect this special place. It gave me a great insight into aboriginal culture and I still get goose bumps everytime I think about it. I took many photo's there but I do not show them to anyone, they are just to remind me. They are on a password protected folder on my computer and will be inaccessible once I am gone.
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Follow Up By: Member - Boobook - Thursday, Jan 12, 2017 at 10:41

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Thanks for the information Chris.

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