so whats going on these days??

Submitted: Saturday, Jan 28, 2017 at 22:00
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Nobody gets bogged, and asks for help, Wheel studs aren't shearing off anymore, punctures aren't happening with new tyres anymore,Nissans aren't blowing up on a regular basis, Toyo V8s are not using oil anymore', And the old petrol V/s diesel debate has died, and fridges it was never decided which was the best brand!!, Landrovers are never mentioned anymore Bits a Missan get refered straight to their own site in a hurry., No comment on the latest Jeeps,And who sleeps under the stars these days?, the best swags?,And the wifes used to comment on good dishes to make on a camp fire,Its a good Forum but you can see that the lively discussions are long gone, Dunno if this is a good or bad thing?

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Reply By: Idler Chris - Saturday, Jan 28, 2017 at 22:23

Saturday, Jan 28, 2017 at 22:23
Axle they have all beeen done to death. However if you are missing the good old days, goto the start of the Forum type "tyres" in the search box and you will get 4500+ answers. By the time you have read them all you will know the answer to your question.

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Follow Up By: Shaker - Saturday, Jan 28, 2017 at 22:31

Saturday, Jan 28, 2017 at 22:31
There are new problems to do to death now like, volts & amps, solar, generators, dc - dc chargers etc etc.
There appears to be an obsession with power generation & consumption, don't know how we survived in the old days, but hey, camping was a lot more fun then, we didn't have to sit around waiting to realign the panels, or make sure nothing was switched on. We went fishing instead!

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Reply By: Shaker - Saturday, Jan 28, 2017 at 22:35

Saturday, Jan 28, 2017 at 22:35
Axle, if you want to read a lively discussion & have about 3 hours to spare, there is a thread with about 70 replies on how to plug in an extension lead!
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Follow Up By: RMD - Saturday, Jan 28, 2017 at 23:22

Saturday, Jan 28, 2017 at 23:22
Shaker
Is that a Right handed lead or a Left handed lead? Lawn mowers come in the two options as well. Screwdrivers are the same.
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Follow Up By: Member - Tony H (touring oz) - Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 10:38

Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 10:38
I wasn't aware that lawnmowers come in left or right handed models......please tell me more TIA
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Follow Up By: RMD - Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 12:57

Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 12:57
Yes Tony, The throttle can be fitted Frack to Bunt and it is then on the other side. ie Left or Right handed. With earlier models the starter rope pull handle could be rotated so it too was presented to the opposite side.
Haven't seen any left handed spark plugs though.
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Follow Up By: Notso - Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 17:01

Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 17:01
Well, most rotary lawn mowers like the victa were designed with the wheels a little offset to one side so you could get closer to the edge strip if you went in a clockwise direction!
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Reply By: Paul E6 - Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 00:18

Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 00:18
Well, I don't like satnav obsessives and don't understand the attraction.
Jeeps and VWs are rubbish, yes yours included.
Ill never likely own a Toyota.
I don't jump on PC bandwagons because I don't like being told what to think.
I hate unsolicited advice from strangers.
A wheel fell off my van near cocklebiddy and we survived.
Norseman is a rubbish town to be stuck in.
I hate deserts and you are wrong to like them.
Don't talk to me while I'm trying to set up my gear.

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Reply By: Member - Boobook - Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 06:58

Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 06:58
Reminds me of these days, and I have a an irrevelant photo of a Steca charger to prove it.
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Reply By: Member - Jim B8 - Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 07:44

Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 07:44
Good point, this forum is doomed in my opinion if someone new cant ask a question and get flooded with references to a similar question from the distant past. Searching a large database for long lost threads is like real exciting. Dont let the answer to everything be" refer to thread xyz", or " link to similar document"

Its no wonder this forum goes days without anything interesting getting posted. We dont want it to be a hangout for yesterdays heros. There is an enormous amount of experience here, let the newbys ask the question, and give them some meaningful answers. Not some homework exercise - " refer thread...."
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Follow Up By: Nomadic Navara - Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 08:03

Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 08:03
Why boil your eggs twice. Newbies are not familiar with forum searches. Why not search the forum for them and find where the eggs were boiled the first time round.
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Follow Up By: Phil B (WA) - Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 10:43

Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 10:43
Good points Nomadic - It may seem simple to some of us but with the boot on the other foot ... they dont know what they dont know hence they ask.
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Follow Up By: Paul E6 - Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 11:06

Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 11:06
Then why do you two bother coming at all? Just archive the forum? There is nothing new under the Sun after all.
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Follow Up By: Nomadic Navara - Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 11:26

Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 11:26
Paul, I keep coming back because I consider there is far more life in the forum than the gloom and doom merchants reckon there is.
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Reply By: Member - Jim B8 - Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 08:26

Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 08:26
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Because the end result is a dead forum. Google searches can also produce results, but the question was asked here. If someone asked you around a campfire something about solar panels, would you reply "Google it", or answer them?

Lets keep it live, as reference searches are dead boring
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Reply By: Sigmund - Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 08:29

Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 08:29
You can ask a better question if you do your reading first.

As for shrinking forums, two letters: FB.
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Follow Up By: Paul E6 - Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 11:07

Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 11:07
Then why are you here now wasting your time?
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Follow Up By: Sigmund - Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 11:21

Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 11:21
Cos FB doesn't do it for me. DOH.
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Reply By: Member - Odog - Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 08:32

Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 08:32
Yes I agree, I have noticed it has backed off. Even when you used to post something, after a few days it would be pushed back a page. Now days, after 3 days, the thread is only down a couple of spots..
Maybe it's just everyone busy leading up to, and getting over Christmas, as for me, I tend to lay low with the heat, seems I can't handle the heat as well these days.
The other thing about the old/past threads, is times and technology is changing every day, and it's great to get up to date info, where possible, as well as up to date info on places, if you have never been to a spot, looking at a thread which is several years old, ain't as good as info from someone who has been there last week or last month.
Sue n myself, haven't any major trips planned for the next twelve months, as in the past we have found this forum a major help in planning and research of past trips. We have just about all bases covered, in vehicle set up, and camping, with or without the camp trailer.. all thanks to everyone on here, be it past threads, or looking for new info.. it's still the "go too" place for us..still a great site.. always will be! Cheers Owen n Sue
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Follow Up By: Dusty D - Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 16:51

Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 16:51
Spot on, Odog.
I'm new to the forum and not so long back I asked for info on the best touring tent and received some good replies that pointed me in the right direction of the tent that I eventually purchased.
Prior to posting my question, I used the search function that gave me a lot of info on tents from 2 years ago, 5 years ago and further back. That's great if I had a time machine and could go back and buy one from those previous years, but most tents that featured back then no longer exist.
Current info is what it is all about, should we expect anything less?
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Reply By: Member Bushy 04(VIC) - Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 08:53

Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 08:53
The funny thing is that we seem to have a lot of experts who are not even members.
When I first joined EX OZ most replies were from members who would give you practical advice, these day's it's refer to abc ect.
If someone is asking for help on the side of the road , you do not tell them to do it themselves so why do it on the forum.
When you need help which would you prefer?
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Follow Up By: pop2jocem - Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 10:57

Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 10:57
"The funny thing is that we seem to have a lot of experts who are not even members." etc etc.

Bushy, do you see that as a problem? Is any advice offered by casual visitors, like myself, of less value than advice offered by a member?

I do agree with your point about just telling an enquirer to do a search, whether that be on this or some other forum, or to use Google or some other search engine.

If I am sure my advice is pertinent and accurate I am happy to offer it. Whether the person to whom it is offered takes it or not is entirely up to them. I can assure you I don't feel in the slightest offended if another posters advice is taken.

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Follow Up By: Shaker - Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 15:44

Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 15:44
There used to be a Members vs others attitude here, it would be a shame to see it come back, I didn't even like having the word Member in front of my user name.




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Follow Up By: Notso - Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 17:08

Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 17:08
Yeah, I guess if the members don't want us visitors then they could prevail upon ExplorOz not to accept guests/visitors I suppose. But then think of what they'd lose, all that knowledge!!
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Follow Up By: RMD - Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 17:10

Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 17:10
Bushy
If I found you stopped on the side of the road and I am not a member, should I drive on and leave you? Would you stop and help a non member?
Do you ask folk if they are OR not, and then decide what you will do?
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Follow Up By: Member - Odog - Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 19:31

Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 19:31
Not really worried about who replies to a thread, no difference if member or not..
Think most people become members, to show a kind of gratitude, and to help support something, which they in turn, receive benefit from in some way or form. Really up to the individual if they feel inclined to sign up or not..
Should never be about membership, would hate to see it go down the path of members vs visitors... any info from either is a big help.. I enjoy just having a read, and if I'm inclined, or feel I may assist in determining a helpful out come.. I'll post... Odog
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Follow Up By: OBJ - Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 19:45

Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 19:45
Some of the more significant, long term and meaningful contributors here are not members. I was a member for a long time from the early days, but opted out.

Other valuable contributors got pee'd off and left. I miss many of them, but as I am not a frequent nor regular visitor nowadays it does not bother me.

Times change.
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Follow Up By: Baz - The Landy - Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 20:24

Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 20:24
Membership probably matters more to the owner's of the ExplorOz site given it costs them money to host the website and paid membership goes someway to defraying their costs. And I'm sure David & Michelle would like to see many more members for this reason alone.

But they've never made membership a condition of accessing the website.

Regardless of one's EO status we are just part of the EO Community where hopefully the over-arching thing that brings us together is a shared interest in travel and how we go about it in our different ways...

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Reply By: Evan 1 - Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 09:05

Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 09:05
Also a lot of people use Facebook groups for info.
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Reply By: Member - Christine and Lindsay - Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 09:24

Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 09:24
Very good points. I enjoy the forum regardless of the possible repetition of questions and topics. Anyway some old forum posts might be on topic but not up to date for current conditions, permits etc. Just because many members have been around a while and have become ' experts' shouldn't be a reason to make others hesitant to ask questions. We need an active forum.
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Follow Up By: Alloy c/t - Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 11:45

Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 11:45
Experts ? On here ? More like ' grumpy old men' who are of the opinion that 'their' say so is 'all' that matters , generators = grumpy , tojo or jeep = grumpy , fridges = grumpy , free camping = extreme grumpy , etc ,, casual debate is no longer allowed or in any way a 'different opinion' even on a subject such as 'camp etiquette' [what is that any way , who gave who the right to tell me how to camp ? ] Experts =Grumpy old farts.
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Follow Up By: Baz - The Landy - Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 13:55

Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 13:55
I think you are on to something there Alloy!


Cheers, Baz - The Landy
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Follow Up By: Member - mark D18 - Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 17:41

Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 17:41
Alloy ct

Appears to me you may be the grumpiest old fart on thisforum .

Chill out !!
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Reply By: Member - 8111COLIN - Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 10:23

Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 10:23
Great topic Axle .
look at the reaction .
My wheel Studs broke on my Camper trailer and my car , both on separate trips , added some excitement to the holiday .
Really didn't want to tell the world about it on a forum , i new the reason why .
Also my V8 toyota does use oil still , i have been bogged , i have had punctures . i have an Engel fridge and a waeco , my daughter sleeps under the stars ,
As for Nissans, Jeeps and Landrovers , do people still buy those things ?
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Follow Up By: axle - Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 11:18

Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 11:18
LOL!
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Reply By: Sigmund - Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 10:45

Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 10:45
Here ya go, cos it's Sunday.

Last trip both shocks on the CT failed. A seal leak in one, and the other, well it fell into two pieces when I pulled it off!

Pedders.

We did something like 2500 kms of dirt with a good dose of serious corro, and Pedders aren't exactly the best. I bent over backwards to get something better. Went down the wire with a pair of Bilsteins - fitting and testing compression but there wasn't going to be enough. Could have gone Koni but it would've needed custom bushes and probably custom valving and the $$ started to look silly.
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew & Jen - Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 11:41

Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 11:41
Hullo Sigmund
For my education, what tyre pressures were you usually running on the CT (on the dirt, that is) before this happened?
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Sigmund - Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 15:34

Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 15:34
Andrew, I air 'em all down by 30%, which I learned from Adam Plate and have been doing for years. And yes, no more than 80, and on this trip I was running a TPMS and the tyres were sweet.
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew & Jen - Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 20:32

Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 20:32
Thanks Sigmund
Adam Plate was a good man. Just an absolute shame he lost his life.
So if you normally run them at 35 on the bitumen, then down to 25ish.
Cheers
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Reply By: Baz - The Landy - Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 14:16

Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 14:16
At times, I think what weighs on the forum and the opportunity for the inter-action it provides is that some see a "difference of opinion" as an invitation for a pointless argument, rather than simply accepting others may be of a different viewpoint.

Perhaps that is symptomatic of the keyboard culture that internet forums have introduced into our lives where anonymity gives rise to behaviours you wouldn't see in a face-to-face discussion.

And nothing wrong with sensible, respectful, and robust discussion and debate, but when it breaks down to a slanging match or becomes disrespectful no-one benefits, least of all the "forum"...

Perhaps that is one aspect that has put people off asking questions or providing answers these days, as there does appear to be a higher incidence of it...

EO is a great resource and the wider EO community has a great breadth of knowledge that can be tapped into, and long may that live...

As for anyone asking questions that have been asked before...

I say, keep on asking those questions, you never know, someone might have a different slant on an old answer to the same question. Perhaps technology or techniques has improved or changed such that it renders "old" answers irrelevant or questionable...

Cheers, Baz - The Landy
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Follow Up By: Member - Ian C26 - Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 16:35

Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 16:35
Baz, I think you are right on the money with your comment,well done.
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil 'n Jill (WA) - Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 17:09

Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 17:09
Quite right Baz, and in some cases the input might not agree with one party's situation but it doesn't mean it is wrong - just that their experience has been different and the variables are endless when it comes to travelling around this vast land.

I for one hope the forum stays alive - I value the responses I get from it - because I just don't know it all - despite what the better half states:O))

Cheers all - Phil
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 21:03

Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 21:03
They say that there is no such thing as a stupid question, but that certainly doesn't apply to answers, why answer if you clearly don't know. Somebody on the AORC forum, in reply to me asking which way the wiring ran in the Quantum as my rear clearance light had stopped working, told me to clean & check the terminals on the Anderson plug!
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil 'n Jill (WA) - Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 21:08

Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 at 21:08
Point taken - I let those go though to the keeper...
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Follow Up By: braincell - Tuesday, Jan 31, 2017 at 13:05

Tuesday, Jan 31, 2017 at 13:05
hi all ,
I'm new to the site but not a 4wd beginner .I like looking at the older posts, someone always might have thought of something that you haven't .One thing I've noticed though is how many gadgets and accessories people seem to want to load there vehicles with ,some are pretty good but others I'm sure you could manage without . Keeps the 4wd and camping industry going I guess .

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Follow Up By: Baz - The Landy - Wednesday, Feb 01, 2017 at 00:14

Wednesday, Feb 01, 2017 at 00:14
Hi Braincell...

Welcome, and yes I think you are right about accessories and gadgets!

Vehicle Mods and Acessories...

Cheers, Baz- The Landy
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Reply By: Cheryl & Ian (NSW) - Saturday, Feb 11, 2017 at 09:24

Saturday, Feb 11, 2017 at 09:24
Here you go Axle. Some youthful lads decided to play in the bog hole instead of using the perfectly good track the rest of us were taking on our way down to Bendethera last weekend. They paid the price for their snap decision as you can see by not being prepared with their recovery gear.



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