Prado 120 (07) winch rope

Submitted: Wednesday, Feb 22, 2017 at 17:49
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Hi,

I have just given my Superwinch a service and have noticed the wire rope is looking a bit "ropey".

Has any used a synthetic rope, ie. dyeema or similar on these winches and if they have any comments good or bad?

Also what size did you fit.

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Reply By: GarryR - Wednesday, Feb 22, 2017 at 18:23

Wednesday, Feb 22, 2017 at 18:23
my son in law uses synthetic and swears my it. He has a landcrusier and used the winch several times. I personally have just switched to synthetic rope today so I cannot personally put in a review apart from the saving of 35kg off the frontend - wire rope and roller housing. Been advised by the 4x4 company I use that there are restrictions to using the rope such as do not use detergents to clean rope only clean water as detergent will affect the properties of the rope. How true this is I will certainly hear in the follow up discussions ahead. Will follow this with keen interest.
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Wednesday, Feb 22, 2017 at 21:55

Wednesday, Feb 22, 2017 at 21:55
How do you save 35kg?
The packing weights for winch cables only vary between 9.5 & 10.5kg, dyneema is around 2kg.
Roller fairlead is about 4.5kg, alloy fairlead is about 600g.
So, I worked it out to be a saving of only 12.5kg, which is why I kept the steel cable.

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Reply By: Member - William B (The Shire) - Wednesday, Feb 22, 2017 at 18:47

Wednesday, Feb 22, 2017 at 18:47
Just another question,

With the synthetic rope do you need to replace the roller fairlead with another type of fairlead.

I have added a link to an ebay seller as an example only. (selected randomly as this is the sort of thing I'm talking about).

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Follow Up By: Gronk - Wednesday, Feb 22, 2017 at 20:21

Wednesday, Feb 22, 2017 at 20:21
Yes, generally accepted that that fairlead is better for synthetic rope.
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Follow Up By: HKB Electronics - Wednesday, Feb 22, 2017 at 21:16

Wednesday, Feb 22, 2017 at 21:16
True, but as I have never used my winch in anger and as the roller fair lead was new and undamaged I stayed with it myself. I could have changed the rollers to nylon etc but again as the rollers weren't damaged in any way couldn't see the point. If I was using the winch all time then would go for a hawse fair lead.

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Follow Up By: Member - William B (The Shire) - Saturday, Feb 25, 2017 at 17:12

Saturday, Feb 25, 2017 at 17:12
Thanks for the info re. UV.

I didn't think of that but thankfully the 1 I ordered is UV resistant.

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Reply By: Member - Scrubby (VIC) - Wednesday, Feb 22, 2017 at 22:10

Wednesday, Feb 22, 2017 at 22:10
G`day William,

This is what I have on my winch but 5/8 not 3/4.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcifJkhXpMM

Got it from Custom Splice in USA.

I have used it many times and recommend the product and the company.

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Follow Up By: Member - Scrubby (VIC) - Wednesday, Feb 22, 2017 at 22:14

Wednesday, Feb 22, 2017 at 22:14
Sorry I forgot to add that I also fitted a new Hawse Fairlead ( less weight also)

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Reply By: Malcom M - Thursday, Feb 23, 2017 at 11:59

Thursday, Feb 23, 2017 at 11:59
You determine the size rope by figuring out what weight load you want it to pull plus what length you want stored on the drum.
Asking what others have done is not clever as everyones setup is different.
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Reply By: Member - William B (The Shire) - Friday, Feb 24, 2017 at 13:53

Friday, Feb 24, 2017 at 13:53
Hi,

Just further to this thread, I have ordered a Dyneema rope and aluminium fairlead
from this eBay seller the dyneema shop

I though the orange colour might be more visible if I ever have to use it.
My roller fairlead wasn't in good condition so I decided on the alloy fairlead as well.

I also had a problem when I refitted the winch that it would only work in 1 direction. I removed the solenoids and found out 1 of the wires inside had broken.
I re-soldered it and tested it and it now works fine.
I have ordered another one.
Some jobs for me to do next week.

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Follow Up By: HKB Electronics - Saturday, Feb 25, 2017 at 10:24

Saturday, Feb 25, 2017 at 10:24
I haven't reread the previous posts so may have already been mentioned but some if not all the dyeema rope are not UV resistant so you need to keep these out of the sun.

Also if your using the genuine Toyota winch plate the hawser may not fit nicely which is why I retained the Toyota fairlead assembly.

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