We have a 2004 Kimberley Kamper

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The handle on our jockey wheel of came off today. We can wind up the internal rod with pliers and then pop the handle on but it won't stay on. It doesn't look like anything has snapped. We would very much appreciate any help.
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Reply By: Member - Keith C (NSW) - Sunday, Feb 26, 2017 at 17:20

Sunday, Feb 26, 2017 at 17:20
Hello, both my wheels have holes thru the handle where a pin goes and fixes it to
the threaded rod, maybe you've lost the pin. Or the handle may have a grub screw missing.
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Follow Up By: 2 4 T - Sunday, Feb 26, 2017 at 19:41

Sunday, Feb 26, 2017 at 19:41
Thank you. When you say both your wheels have holes through the handle where a pin goes and we could have lost the pin. Are you talking about the jockey wheel? We only have one jockey wheel and I can't see where a pin goes.
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Reply By: Paul E6 - Sunday, Feb 26, 2017 at 17:34

Sunday, Feb 26, 2017 at 17:34
Jockey wheels are cheap.
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Reply By: Member - Graeme W (NSW) - Sunday, Feb 26, 2017 at 17:38

Sunday, Feb 26, 2017 at 17:38
I had the same thing happen on my 2003 Kimberley kamper. If you have the same jockey wheel as mine had, the handle is held on by a grub screw with an allen key head.

If you look at the internal rod it will have a recess that the grub screw goes into. The handle should have a hole that the screw goes in.

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Reply By: 2 4 T - Sunday, Feb 26, 2017 at 19:44

Sunday, Feb 26, 2017 at 19:44
Thanks for that info. Sounds like it could be. Will have a further look tomorrow.
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Reply By: Sigmund - Monday, Feb 27, 2017 at 04:53

Monday, Feb 27, 2017 at 04:53
Jockey wheels seem to be consumables theses days.
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Reply By: Blown4by - Monday, Feb 27, 2017 at 10:32

Monday, Feb 27, 2017 at 10:32
As stated the handle is usually held in place by either a grub screw or a hardened steel 'spring pin' called a Roll Pin. Both items would cost about one dollar. If yours uses a roll pin, and it has snapped (broken), it is likely, due to the interference fit of these pins, that the pin (now in three pieces) is still in the handle and the threaded spindle of the jockey wheel. If this is the case, it may be hard to see the roll pin as they are a tight fit and with some dirt and paint are even harder to see. If you do find a roll pin has been used you just need a hardened steel pin punch of the correct diameter to punch the broken pieces out. To fit a new pin you just align the holes in the handle and spindle and lightly tap the new roll pin in place. As someone else said, his Kimberley camper uses a grub screw so in all likelihood yours will be the same and you may just need a new grub screw (not to be confused with something you have at meal time) If it is just a replacement of the grub screw that is required, make sure you align the end of the grub screw with the recessed section in the spindle prior to tightening the screw. Whatever method is used to secure the handle it is a good idea to keep the threaded section of the spindle lubricated so it operates freely thus reducing the load on the handle (and the effort required to turn it)
As others have said, jockey wheels are cheap but I would rather spend $1 than $50 to fix the problem.
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Follow Up By: 2 4 T - Monday, Feb 27, 2017 at 14:53

Monday, Feb 27, 2017 at 14:53
Thank you Blown4by for your time taken to tell us in detail what we need to do. It is a grub screw that we need to replace. We have half of it out so far. We very much appreciate your help. Linda
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Follow Up By: MEMBER - Darian, SA - Monday, Feb 27, 2017 at 15:31

Monday, Feb 27, 2017 at 15:31
Yep...and while you are at it, maybe drill a hole right through the handle and drive rod...put a full width pin* through there...better than a grub screw...as said, why dump a good jockey wheel with such a minor problem ?
*a pin can be made from any suitable wire...maybe a nail etc...make it a bit too long, biff the ends flat...won't ever come out. Good luck with it.
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Follow Up By: Blown4by - Tuesday, Feb 28, 2017 at 11:36

Tuesday, Feb 28, 2017 at 11:36
FYI a roll pin is manufactured from hardened spring steel and the hole it is fitted to must be exactly the correct diameter for the correct interference fit. If the hole to too big there will be movement between the handle and the spindle resulting in the hole elongating and the pin will either snap or fall out. A pin made from a nail or wire is OK as a temporary repair out bush but it will be too soft (the shank of a drill bit would be better) and will suffer the same fate as described above. Once the pin holes become elongated it is unlikely another hole can be drilled in the spindle (due to its small diameter) without weakening the spindle to the extent that under heavy load it will probably snap off rendering the jockey wheel useless. The correct roll pin being hollow and manufactured from spring steel will maintain its interference fit for life and most mechanics shops will have a Gee-Jay or Champion assortment of various diameter roll pins which can be cut to the correct length after installation.
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Reply By: 2 4 T - Monday, Feb 27, 2017 at 16:24

Monday, Feb 27, 2017 at 16:24
Thanks everyone for your help. The grub screw was very very loose. All better
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Follow Up By: Whirlwinder - Monday, Feb 27, 2017 at 18:36

Monday, Feb 27, 2017 at 18:36
To keep the grub screw from coming loose again take it out and put some thread locking compound on the thread. Iy can still be TAKEN out but won't fall out by itself.
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Reply By: 2 4 T - Wednesday, Mar 01, 2017 at 16:31

Wednesday, Mar 01, 2017 at 16:31
Thank you Whirlwinder for that info. I went out today and bought a tube of Threadlocker Low strength. Will fix up that little grub screw tomorrow. Thanks for your hint. Linda
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