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Submitted: Sunday, Mar 12, 2017 at 18:27
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A couple of years ago we noticed that a critical ingredient for my wifes recipe for a christmas treat (nuts and bolts) had disappeared from our supermarkets shelves, so we searched around and found that it just doesnt seem available any more. I am talking about bacon stock cubes or powder.

Just recently the backed beans in ham sauce has disappeared.(at noosa Aldi)

Am i being paranoid or is there a pattern emerging here?

Will all pork products go one by one?

Does anyone know where to get bacon stock cubes from in australia?

Was there any actual pork in the bacon stock with all the chemicals?

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Reply By: Allan B (Sunshine Coast) - Sunday, Mar 12, 2017 at 19:27

Sunday, Mar 12, 2017 at 19:27
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Err, Qldcamper, the following is an extract from the Forum Rules of ExplorOz.
Perhaps as a newcomer you should read them

Off-Topic Rule: "This Forum is for discussing issues relevant to self-drive camping/caravanning adventures in Australia. Do not post about current affairs, local news or personal interests that are not relevant to this sites' themed content."
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Follow Up By: qldcamper - Sunday, Mar 12, 2017 at 21:36

Sunday, Mar 12, 2017 at 21:36
that explains why there is just the one forum and not divided up into different sections, thanks for the tip.
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Follow Up By: mountainman - Sunday, Mar 12, 2017 at 22:29

Sunday, Mar 12, 2017 at 22:29
Soo the endless friday funnies thread dont belong to the forum either ?

Relax a bit
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Follow Up By: Member - David M (SA) - Sunday, Mar 12, 2017 at 22:41

Sunday, Mar 12, 2017 at 22:41
So there goes any camp cooking tips or recipes. :)
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Follow Up By: Allan B (Sunshine Coast) - Sunday, Mar 12, 2017 at 23:21

Sunday, Mar 12, 2017 at 23:21
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None of you have even looked at the 'Forum Rules' have you?

"Friday Funnies" are specifically permitted.
"Camp Cooking" is clearly a part of 'Camping'.

The 'availability of pork' belongs on a cooking forum.

Is Qldcamper simply a troll?
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Follow Up By: qldcamper - Monday, Mar 13, 2017 at 06:31

Monday, Mar 13, 2017 at 06:31
Just because my views may vary from those of some of the long time members and i dont just take their word for granted doesnt make me a troll, i take offence to that remark.
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Reply By: Hoyks - Sunday, Mar 12, 2017 at 19:43

Sunday, Mar 12, 2017 at 19:43
Yes, you are being paranoid. None of Continental's products are halal certified but they have stopped making bacon stock. According to Woolies and Continental they were not selling enough of it. Plenty of their other products contain pork products.

Aldi is a German company. If it wasn't for dead pigs, Germany would starve. They love the stuff and eat around 53kg/year each. Not to be out done Aussies do 54kg. Their refrigerated section still contains plenty of dead, smoked piggy goodness.

Baked Beans in Ham Sauce are still listed, maybe you got there after a bunch of baked beans in ham sauce lovers cleared the shelves?

If you wanted to pay a whole $0.20 more, then there is always Woolies and Heinz. There you can get Beanz and Bacon (actual bacon, not just sauce), or with ham sauce.

As for stock, you want a kg? http://www.pantryman.com.au/products/grevy-stock-thickeners/bacon-stock/ The only importer apparently, so again it will indicate the amount of demand.

If you want to Muslim bash then try again. Just 2.2 per cent of Australians, or 476,300 people, identified as Muslim in the 2011 census, so aiming your product range at under 3% of the population makes no sense, but enjoy constructing your conspiracy theory.
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Follow Up By: mountainman - Sunday, Mar 12, 2017 at 20:30

Sunday, Mar 12, 2017 at 20:30
Wow...
muslim bash , since when does the first poster even speak about anything musilm bash...
you really are looking at something deeper than he mentioned.

supermarkets can and will take products off shelfs at their own will.
"Muslim " bashing and accusations are a poor excuse to abuse another member over..
nothing mentioned of any muslim subject
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Follow Up By: Hoyks - Sunday, Mar 12, 2017 at 20:38

Sunday, Mar 12, 2017 at 20:38
Yeah, whatever.
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Sunday, Mar 12, 2017 at 23:17

Sunday, Mar 12, 2017 at 23:17
I used to make nuts & bolts years ago when it was "in vogue", I certainly didn't remember bacon stock cubes/powder being used. I just checked 3 recipe sites & none of them include it in the ingredient lists.

I think this line in the OP is what prompted Hoyks' comments:
"Am i being paranoid or is there a pattern emerging here?"

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Follow Up By: qldcamper - Monday, Mar 13, 2017 at 16:44

Monday, Mar 13, 2017 at 16:44
There are many different receipes, anything can go in really, but our faverite was the one with french onion soup mix and bacon stock. But apparently this is a taboo subject so should not be discussing it.
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Follow Up By: 9900Eagle - Monday, Mar 13, 2017 at 17:42

Monday, Mar 13, 2017 at 17:42
Made we should be more concerned with the disappearance of mutton. Looks like old sheep don't go to the works anymore, they must just be retired to pasture.

Now! Has anyone come across any old wethers or ewes in their travels across Australia. I know what happens to old rams, they just wear themselves out before their time.

Please keep checking out any retirement paddocks.

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Follow Up By: Gerard S - Monday, Mar 13, 2017 at 23:36

Monday, Mar 13, 2017 at 23:36
Of course there is no mutton when most Aussie lamb is up to 8years old.lol
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Follow Up By: TomH - Monday, Mar 13, 2017 at 23:41

Monday, Mar 13, 2017 at 23:41
Dead right Gerard Had a "lamb" rack for dinner last night The eyes were nearly as big as a fillet steak and the ribs were as long as mine.
Lamb my a**e It was mutton if it was a day. But the wife cooked it well and it tasted pretty good.

They should be made to use the striping system that NZ uses Different for each class. Lamb, Hogget, Mutton.
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Follow Up By: 9900Eagle - Tuesday, Mar 14, 2017 at 05:19

Tuesday, Mar 14, 2017 at 05:19
Gerard S and TomH My post just might have been a bit tongue in cheek.
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Follow Up By: TomH - Tuesday, Mar 14, 2017 at 09:59

Tuesday, Mar 14, 2017 at 09:59
Mine wasnt Its false advertising when they are selling old sheep as "Lamb"

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Reply By: cruza25 - Monday, Mar 13, 2017 at 18:18

Monday, Mar 13, 2017 at 18:18
http://www.exoticgroceries.com.au/index.php?manufacturers_id=11

$1.29 for a box of 6
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Reply By: Member - shane r1 - Monday, Mar 13, 2017 at 20:00

Monday, Mar 13, 2017 at 20:00
Golly gosh , aren't there some people that got out of the wrong side of the bed today!
Hope this comment doesn't offend anyone.
Have a great day everyone.
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Reply By: Member - John and Lynne - Wednesday, Mar 15, 2017 at 10:22

Wednesday, Mar 15, 2017 at 10:22
Just to get this thread back onto Camp Cooking rather than dubious byways. Stock cubes of any flavour are basically just a chemical and salt mixture. Any relation to animal content is hypothetical. If you want stock make it yourself from bones and scraps and freeze it. If you are camping without the facilities to do that just add your own flavourings to your dish so you know what they are and can go lightly on artificial flavourings and chemical additives. I always carry a few packs of dried herbs and spices, good quality soy sauce, worcester sauce, sachets of tomato paste, onions and garlic and, of course, some red wine. I can create a flavour that beats any stock cube without needing lots of fridge or other storage space. If I want a bacon flavour I use bacon or ham! Lynne
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Follow Up By: qldcamper - Wednesday, Mar 15, 2017 at 18:14

Wednesday, Mar 15, 2017 at 18:14
Very true.

It would be torture being camped down wind of you, just bbq onions are bad enough but sounds like you take it to another level. Goes to show just cause your camping doesnt mean you have to give up your passion for cooking.
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Reply By: Member - Boobook - Thursday, Mar 16, 2017 at 10:16

Thursday, Mar 16, 2017 at 10:16
It's not Friday Funnies, but ...

So the OP asks if anyone knows where to get Bacon Stock Cubes, and if so are they real bacon or chemicals?

EO in true form has answered every question except the two the OP asked about.

-OP is referred to the Forum rules that the subject is off topic ( but it isn't removed or locked)
-We learn that Friday Funnies and camp cooking are exempt from the OT rule
-there is some argy bargy about trolling
-We learned that none of Continentals's products are Halal ( especially the pork I guess!!)
-Aldi is a German company and Germans love Pork but not as much as Australians who eat 54kg a year.
-While some brands of Baked beans with Ham sauce have disappeared off the shelves, Heinz is still available at Woolies. You can even get it with genuine bacon bits.
-2.2% of Australians or 476,300 people are Muslims according to the 2011 census.
-Those stats make the poster a Muslim basher, apparently this post is a poor excuse to abuse other members.
-The OP is bullied out of talking about Bacon and onion soup because it is now a taboo subject.
-Not to be outdone, Lamb is disappearing from the shelves. Mutton is disguising as lamb ( Mutton dressed as Lamb so to speak)
-Most Aussie Lamb is over 8 years old.
-Massive Lamb steak eyes are appearing on dinner plates. We should adopt the NZ lamb classification system.
-Selling old sheep as Lamb should be illegal.
-People are now getting nervous that anything they say will offend people.
-We learn that stock cubes are a chemical and Salt mixture. Only hypothetical links to animals exist.
-It's best to make your own stock
-No it's not. Especially if you are down wind of someone cooking bbq onions - Home cooking of stock cubes can be torture.
-There is even one irrevelent post on the thread its self
:-)

-Buried in all pf those subjects, 2 people actually made the effort to answer part of the OP's question.. We learned that the Panty man is the ONLY supplier of Bacon Stockpowder in Australia, but Exotic Groceries also sell it in Australia.

No one has attempted to answer the trickier question of the actual bacon content in the only Bacon stock available in Australia, or even the other one that is available.

Apologies to the OP and everyone I paraphrased. I'm not picking on any one or any statement ( I guess I'm picking on everyone, even me)

How can a thread like this be useful to anyone, especially the OP? 95% plus of the responses are totally unrelated to the actual thread. Unfortunately its a growing trend amongst a shrinking audience.
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Follow Up By: Member - Boobook - Thursday, Mar 16, 2017 at 10:35

Thursday, Mar 16, 2017 at 10:35
I should add that the reason I posted this 'light hearted' post is because I have recently posted a couple of questions that rapidly went so OT that I felt I completely wasted my time asking. This one seems similar to me. I'm guessing the OP feels much the same way.

The answers are all very valid answers to questions not asked. I hope EO can address this somehow.
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Follow Up By: qldcamper - Thursday, Mar 16, 2017 at 18:46

Thursday, Mar 16, 2017 at 18:46
Good eye for detail Tony, we have all learned a lot and had a good laugh with your summary, this is exactly how i would imagine a discussion would go round a campfire with plenty of fluids flowing, its all in good fun. Been over a year since I had an opportunity to sit round a fire, and seeing I have had to shelve the construction of the camp trailer because I have been rudely interrupted by employment I find myself back in an aircraft tomorrow morning, so this is the closest I'm going to get to a laugh round a fire for a while longer.

By the way, going to the UK in June for some single malt therapy, so I will see if I can find some bacon stock on the shelves there.

Thanks for putting it in perspective.
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Follow Up By: qldcamper - Thursday, Mar 16, 2017 at 18:50

Thursday, Mar 16, 2017 at 18:50
By the way, if I only offended 2.1% of the members i am getting better, normally offend a lot more.

That was a joke by the way.
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Follow Up By: Member - Boobook - Thursday, Mar 16, 2017 at 20:33

Thursday, Mar 16, 2017 at 20:33
Yes, you only offended 2.1% ACCORDING TO THE 2011 Census.

However as you know it is now 2017. If the 2016 Census ever sees the light of day you may have offended more.


go Go GO!
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Follow Up By: Member - Boobook - Thursday, Mar 16, 2017 at 20:49

Thursday, Mar 16, 2017 at 20:49
I haven't been away for a while either qldcamper.

You and I need to get together around a camp fire to analyse this more. You with Single Malt, me with Port. Won't that be a pretty sight at 1AM!!

Put another log on the fire and 1 more drink. That's it and I'm going to bed.

Heard that before?
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Reply By: Member - silkwood - Sunday, Mar 19, 2017 at 08:40

Sunday, Mar 19, 2017 at 08:40
Can we stop with the "chemicals in food" comments. ALL Food has chemicals,in fact all food IS chemicals. I know people say "you know what I mean", but that's the problem, I don't think even they know what they mean. It has simply become a way to suggest "natural" food is better (define natural) or unprocessed is better (again...).

Have look at these chemicals:

https://jameskennedymonash.wordpress.com/2013/12/12/ingredients-of-an-all-natural-banana/

Sorry, rant over.

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Follow Up By: Shaker - Sunday, Mar 19, 2017 at 13:25

Sunday, Mar 19, 2017 at 13:25
I would have thought everything was "natural", as anything we make or eat was found on this planet.

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