gas t-piece.

Submitted: Monday, Jun 12, 2017 at 17:05
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Has anyone added a t-piece from a 9kj gas bottle? The second line to run a small BBQ this has a smaller connection. Much appreciated in advance.
Garry s9
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Reply By: Member - Mark (Tamworth NSW) - Monday, Jun 12, 2017 at 17:55

Monday, Jun 12, 2017 at 17:55
Gary
Yes I've done it on our Camper Trailer. I don't know if it's legal, but I subsequently had it checked properly by a Licensed gas fitter when he was installing natural gas to our house.
I'm not that happy with the job I have done in terms of there are too many adapters/fittings to get it to work. The more joins you have the greater the chance of a gas leak.
I installed the T piece just before the Camper Trailer regulator
It probably would have been better if I took the whole assembly to a shop which sold a comprehensive range of fittings/adapters from the start It, would have minimised the number of fittings. I use a stopper on the BBQ outlet most of the time, a three way valve/tap would have been better.
But it certainly makes booking easier
I look forward to other responses as well!
Mark

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Follow Up By: Member - ACD 1 - Monday, Jun 12, 2017 at 18:36

Monday, Jun 12, 2017 at 18:36
Garry

I have just read Marks post, which we were typing at the same time, and he has taken a different slant on your question. I assumed you were talking a portable setup (which I have described below) whereas he has assumed a fixed reticulated setup.

I too have done this with my trailer, but I had it done by a gas fitter (to get the certification). Yes it can be done, but requires certain things to meet code - double regulators with test points, main run outside of the vehicle, shutoff valves for each appliance on the line etc etc.

A competent gas fitter should knock the job off within 2 1/2 to 3 hours even less if it simply teeing into exsisting pipe work and changing the regulator.

Portable stuff you can do your self - fixed reticulate stuff needs a licenced fitter to certify it (big penalties if it is inspected at a later stage and not certified - not to mention no insurance if it goes bang!)

Cheers

Anthony
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Follow Up By: Member - Mark (Tamworth NSW) - Tuesday, Jun 13, 2017 at 12:43

Tuesday, Jun 13, 2017 at 12:43
Anthony
I don't think you would call mine fixed, I plugged one end of the T piece into the fixed regulator inlet (that's what some of the adapters were for). This can be removed with an couple of spanners are put back to original within 3-4 minutes. In hindsight I'm sure I could have purchased better "all in one" adapters.
The other free end has more adapters to go from the T piece to a female POL gas hose fitting. I plug the female fitting with a proper gas brass threaded stopper.
I agree that's where I really wanted shut off valves.
Our CT is stored elsewhere otherwise I'd send a photo
Mark
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Follow Up By: Member - ACD 1 - Tuesday, Jun 13, 2017 at 13:58

Tuesday, Jun 13, 2017 at 13:58
Hi Mark

I am a little confused by your post now. Not sure whether your referring to a fixed or portable system. By Portable and fixed, I refer to the use of flexible hose or copper pipe.

Portable - gas cylinder and flexible hose and regulator to appliance

Fixed - gas cylinder, mounted double reg with test point to fixed copper pipe to the appliance.

I would take a guess that your second sentence is pretty accurate. Just because gas parts will fit together, doesn't always mean they should be used together.

At the end of the day it is up to the individual what they want to do, if it has been checked by a lice send gas fitter I can only assume it is ok to use!

Cheers

Anthony
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Follow Up By: Garry S9 - Wednesday, Jun 14, 2017 at 10:46

Wednesday, Jun 14, 2017 at 10:46
Thanks fellow campers, My system is portable. My gas 9 kg bottle sits in the boot of the caravan and I was thinking of getting a long hose about 3 meters and connect to the small BBQ. Mark, what better adapters would you use? My darling wife just said get an adapter and a small gas bottle to run the BBQ.
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Follow Up By: Member - Mark (Tamworth NSW) - Wednesday, Jun 14, 2017 at 21:20

Wednesday, Jun 14, 2017 at 21:20
Gary
It was several years ago that I did this and I can't remember all the details, but what I do remember was that I needed a few adapters to change thread size and mount new male threaded which the BBQ hose female coupling pictured below by Anthony was screwed onto
My CT is located a few kms away so I can't send you pictures which would be the easiest way to do it

It's probably unwise for me to elaborate more in a public forum as technically you should have all this work done by a Gas Fitter (in my case I got one to pull mine apart and check it was all OK).
But if you find a 3 way valve, please let me know !
Mark
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Reply By: Member - ACD 1 - Monday, Jun 12, 2017 at 18:26

Monday, Jun 12, 2017 at 18:26
Hi Garry

I assume you are asking how to do it?

If so, you will need the following pieces of gear. The hose may need to be changed to suit your specific BBQ fittings but their are others available.

POL Double adapter

POL - 1/4 Hose with Regulator



Cheers

Anthony
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Follow Up By: rumpig - Monday, Jun 12, 2017 at 19:12

Monday, Jun 12, 2017 at 19:12
We use the same t piece as pictured above, they are sold at most camping stores
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Follow Up By: Member - ACD 1 - Monday, Jun 12, 2017 at 19:30

Monday, Jun 12, 2017 at 19:30
I probably should have said to click on the underlined link for suppliers.

Cheers

Anthony
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Follow Up By: Garry S9 - Thursday, Jun 15, 2017 at 12:16

Thursday, Jun 15, 2017 at 12:16
That's excellent, thanks.
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Tuesday, Jun 13, 2017 at 21:21

Tuesday, Jun 13, 2017 at 21:21
Get a gas bayonet fitted by a licenced gas fitter - just hook up to that whenever you use your BBQ.
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Follow Up By: Member - ACD 1 - Tuesday, Jun 13, 2017 at 23:24

Tuesday, Jun 13, 2017 at 23:24
That is sort of what I'm alluding to in my top reply, but Gary doesn't make it clear if he has fixed copper pipe or is using flexible hose. He can't fit a bayonet if he is using flexible hose.

He may come back and provide more info!

Cheers

Anthony
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Wednesday, Jun 14, 2017 at 06:29

Wednesday, Jun 14, 2017 at 06:29
Yes, I've made the assumption that his 9 kg cylinder is mounted on a caravan or camper trailer with copper pipe.
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Follow Up By: Sand Man (SA) - Friday, Jun 16, 2017 at 07:54

Friday, Jun 16, 2017 at 07:54
Phil,

Your suggestion works for just about anything but a Coleman Stove.
I like the Coleman two burner with a BBQ plate accessory but it cannot be connected to the low pressure side of a caravan regulator.
The Coleman stove is a high pressure system. It works really well but I'm just about done with their incompatibility with other LPG devices and connections.
I have recently added a Ziggy BBQ (also to use as an oven) to my camping kit and had a bayonet fitting added to my campervan so I don't have to remove the second bottle from its mounting bracket.
Easy as now!
Bill


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