Place Comment: Goyders Pillar

The coordinates listed here are very wrong. Hema maps has this at 22°59'06.4"S, 136°54'44.1"E
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Reply By: Member - Alan H (QLD) - Friday, Aug 25, 2017 at 07:02

Friday, Aug 25, 2017 at 07:02
It was easy to find when we went a few years ago. Just off the side of the Hay river track. Turnoff is just a bit west from Jervious and the road goes straight down to the river and basically you just keep going before turning south for the Hay River track. Great spot.
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Follow Up By: pjm@colorectal.com.a - Friday, Aug 25, 2017 at 07:47

Friday, Aug 25, 2017 at 07:47
Yep, no doubt. Just disappointing to see the explore oz coords being so far off
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Reply By: Mick O - Friday, Aug 25, 2017 at 12:38

Friday, Aug 25, 2017 at 12:38
pjm, what are you comparing them to? Actual coordinates from your visit there or simply two sets of map coordinates?

I can tell you that the actual Hema map coordinates as provided in your post appear to be at least 2.4 km off SWbW while the EO places are 1km off to the SSE.

Even Chas Winnecke’s original coordinates from 1883 are 24 km off to the NNW!

It appears that both are off but the EO Place coordinate is closer to the mark by a kilometre.

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Follow Up By: The Explorer - Friday, Aug 25, 2017 at 13:16

Friday, Aug 25, 2017 at 13:16
Hello

I think pjm may have measured the location (using OziExplorer?) off a verion of Hema's GDT Eastern Sheet/NE map (dated 2012?) as the pillar location is shown a bit inaccurately on this map...roughly aligning to his coords....

Strangely on an older version of the same Hema map (dated 2009) coordinates for the "Sunset Viewing Area" are printed on the map as 22° 58' 58" S and 136° 55' 57" ..which are ~500m W of EO's coords and from what I can figure closer to the actual Pillar (~500m) - but who cares - you aint going to miss it.

I am guessing who ever supplied the EO coords GPS'd them in the car park or thereabouts...not at the pillar itself. Any way, an apology is in order from pjm :)

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Follow Up By: Red Dirt - Friday, Aug 25, 2017 at 16:55

Friday, Aug 25, 2017 at 16:55
And to add a further variation

http://www.ntlis.nt.gov.au/placenames/view.jsp?id=13251
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Follow Up By: Mick O - Friday, Aug 25, 2017 at 17:27

Friday, Aug 25, 2017 at 17:27
RD, Those coordinates are actually those lodged by Chas Winnecke way back when. They are 24 km away yet the do fall within an area of hills that Winnecke was actually describing. He named them the Goyders Pinnacles (note the plural) I actually wonder if the pillar we refer to as Goyders today was discovered later. Hmmmm.

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Follow Up By: The Explorer - Friday, Aug 25, 2017 at 18:06

Friday, Aug 25, 2017 at 18:06
Must have been using a Magellan....:)

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Reply By: ExplorOz Team - Michelle - Sunday, Aug 27, 2017 at 15:51

Sunday, Aug 27, 2017 at 15:51
I will look at this tomorrow and update live so both the online Places and downloads will be exact.
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