Innovan

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I'm researching for an Australian-built off-road camper. After some time researching I'm down to 4 (Topaz, Exodus, Vista XL Crossover and Innovan). While I have, or will, talk to owners of 3 of these I am having trouble talking to an owner or even seeing the inside of the XC caravan. Innovan is looking also for me (I think) but thought to try here.
Topic has arisen on the odd occasion in past here but not resolved.
Why persist? It looks like it would meet my requirements very well.
Thanks for any replies.
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Reply By: HKB Electronics - Tuesday, Oct 17, 2017 at 15:31

Tuesday, Oct 17, 2017 at 15:31
By XC are you referring to the Vista XL, if so visit the owners forum at the following link, the manufacture hosts the forum but does not run it, they are happy for the owners or others to post, be it either good or bad, but you won't find much on the bad side:)

Vista owners forum

If you have questions you can get them answered there and there are lots of pictures of the insides of vans and mods owners have done etc:

I find it interesting that the Innovan unit I looked at had hydraulic operated brakes I would not think these would be practical in an off road camper but then I suppose it depends on what you class as off road?

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Follow Up By: Member - Dan (ACT) - Tuesday, Oct 17, 2017 at 16:12

Tuesday, Oct 17, 2017 at 16:12
Thanks.

The XC is the Innovan (They only have 2 models XC caravan and XS slide on).

As to brakes they also offer electric off-road drum brakes. The hydraulic override disc brakes have the hydraulic lines run internally to prevent stone damage.
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Follow Up By: HKB Electronics - Tuesday, Oct 17, 2017 at 16:53

Tuesday, Oct 17, 2017 at 16:53
Not stone damage that would be the issue, I was thinking that whenever you want to reverse you would need to get out and lock the push rod assembly. Probably not so much of an issue on the black stuff but could be inconvenient in an off road situation.

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Follow Up By: Member - Dan (ACT) - Tuesday, Oct 17, 2017 at 19:24

Tuesday, Oct 17, 2017 at 19:24
Yes - I remember the Innovan people saying that now. It'd be a nuisance if you had to go back and forward a few times.
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Follow Up By: Gronk - Tuesday, Oct 17, 2017 at 20:27

Tuesday, Oct 17, 2017 at 20:27
I'm not sure what sort of elect/hyd brakes Innovan use, but the ones on KK's don't require getting out as there is no movement at the hitch. All controlled by the controller in the cab. Or are you thinking of the old mechanical /hydraulic over ride brakes?
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Follow Up By: HKB Electronics - Tuesday, Oct 17, 2017 at 21:22

Tuesday, Oct 17, 2017 at 21:22
Innovan are using off road type hitch with the old mechanical type master cylinder setup.

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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie - Monday, Oct 23, 2017 at 18:07

Monday, Oct 23, 2017 at 18:07
Just on the subject of override brakes...I used to think the same thing (IE: that I'd have to get out and throw the lever to prevent activating the brakes before I tried to reverse).

Recently however, the company I work for had a new trailer manufactured for me to tow (usually on Mondays when there is a heavy mail load....I'm the mail contract driver for the Yorke Peninsula SA). It has a heavier load rating than the old trailer and thus is fitted with override brakes.

It turns out that I don't need to throw the lever in order to reverse the trailer. The system only seems to activate the brakes when I brake heavily.... the weight of the trailer being sufficient under heavy braking (only) to force the piston of the coupling back through its housing and thus activating the brakes.

One of the places I have to reverse the loaded trailer into involves a slight upgrade section.....even then the brakes don't activate as I push the trailer up the gradient.

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Follow Up By: Member - Dan (ACT) - Monday, Oct 23, 2017 at 22:09

Monday, Oct 23, 2017 at 22:09
Thanks Roachie

That's also helpful. Another question to ask an owner when i get hold of one.
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Reply By: Grant L - Wednesday, Oct 18, 2017 at 18:03

Wednesday, Oct 18, 2017 at 18:03
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Have you looked at Rhinocaravan.com built in Brisbane QLD a friend has one for extended off road use in far north QLD very strong build made to go anywhere
could be a bit pricey though.
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Follow Up By: Member - Dan (ACT) - Wednesday, Oct 18, 2017 at 19:32

Wednesday, Oct 18, 2017 at 19:32
Thanks Grant. I've just looked at Rhino Caravans (Logan) and they aren't really suitable for what I want but saw the RhinoMax (Maroochydore) which is worth having a longer look at. Thanks again.
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Reply By: Tim F3 - Monday, Oct 23, 2017 at 16:33

Monday, Oct 23, 2017 at 16:33
Pioneer in west aust make a really robust go just about anywhere hard floor fold out camper , might suit your needs.
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Follow Up By: Member - Dan (ACT) - Monday, Oct 23, 2017 at 17:03

Monday, Oct 23, 2017 at 17:03
Thanks. Quite similar to my tvan. I want to move away from canvass as part of normal setup ie complete hardshell suitable for very off road. Option for water and perhaps basic cooking inside would be nice.
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Monday, Oct 23, 2017 at 20:00

Monday, Oct 23, 2017 at 20:00
I think you will that Pioneer Campers are in Dandenong, Victoria.

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Follow Up By: Supersi - Monday, Oct 23, 2017 at 21:50

Monday, Oct 23, 2017 at 21:50
Have you looked ar the Australian Off Road range?
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Follow Up By: Member - Dan (ACT) - Monday, Oct 23, 2017 at 22:13

Monday, Oct 23, 2017 at 22:13
Yep, sure have. While i looked at teardrop shapes i also looked at caravan shapes like the AOR, Exodus and Topaz. They have many attractions.

I really want to talk to an Innovan owner. They seem as scarce as hens' teeth - something to consider sometime in the distant future when moving into a traditional caravan.
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