The new Hilux 4x4 dual cab diesel auto

Submitted: Wednesday, Nov 01, 2017 at 13:01
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Drove the new car home yesterday. Only bitumen roads and empty.

First impression is that I won't be needing a suspension upgrade if firmness of ride is any indication. Although it is brand new and could do with a bit of a thrash over some corrugations to sort of settle things down and lose some tightness.

Other than that I am impressed with the engine braking through the auto. I selected S and pulled the shifter down a gear or two going down a couple of hills.

The engine although also new and tight seems to pull quite strongly when asked to.

Personally I don't believe in pussy footing around with new cars but of course not hard on the gas for long periods.

Long term, time will tell.

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Reply By: Mick O - Wednesday, Nov 01, 2017 at 20:12

Wednesday, Nov 01, 2017 at 20:12
What's the tow rating on the new ute pop?
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Follow Up By: pop2jocem - Wednesday, Nov 01, 2017 at 20:59

Wednesday, Nov 01, 2017 at 20:59
3500 kg for the manual and 3200 kg for the auto. Both with 350 kg tow ball down load.

A bit strange as the 2.8 l engine fitted to both the auto and manual have a 130 kw output at 3400 rpm, but the auto has a 450 Nm torque rating at 1600-2400 rpm while the manual is 420 Nm at 1400-2600 rpm.

I couldn't get an answer from the sales dept that made sense to me.

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Follow Up By: Frank P (NSW) - Wednesday, Nov 01, 2017 at 22:32

Wednesday, Nov 01, 2017 at 22:32
Simple, Pop, and he should know it. A modern torque converter can be a torque multiplier.

Google "can a torque converter have a torque multiplier effect" for multiple references and plenty of reading.

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Follow Up By: pop2jocem - Wednesday, Nov 01, 2017 at 23:08

Wednesday, Nov 01, 2017 at 23:08
Frank,

I think Mr Toyota was referring to the engine torque rating before the multiplier effect of the torque converter.

Well that's my reading of the quoted figures, but I could be wrong.

Just my personal opinion but I think the lower rating maybe something to do with the ability/capacity/protection of the manual clutch.

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Follow Up By: Frank P (NSW) - Wednesday, Nov 01, 2017 at 23:55

Wednesday, Nov 01, 2017 at 23:55
Yes, that makes sense, Pop.

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Follow Up By: Dean K3 - Thursday, Nov 02, 2017 at 12:23

Thursday, Nov 02, 2017 at 12:23
DPF fitted ?

make sure they do a reflash of the software for the "regeneration burn" appears the hiluxes are having issue.

Has a few boffins in toyota bit stumped as why the same unit is used across the V8 Prado and think Rav4 or kluger and don't have issues but hilux does.

Hopefully all dealerships will keep at least 1 or 2 DPF units on the shelf for easy replacement should unit fail

If it does then its covered by warranty as it is -for time being
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Follow Up By: pop2jocem - Thursday, Nov 02, 2017 at 13:39

Thursday, Nov 02, 2017 at 13:39
G'day Dean,

Yes it does (unfortunately) have a DPF.

Hmmm V8 Prado ?? AFAIK the Kluger only comes in petrol, in Oz anyway, so why they would need a diesel particulate filter I'm not sure. I am pretty sure they do have a catalytic converter though.

Personally I would rather have a vehicle without all the added complications that come with the latest incarnations but I guess that's life. We either keep driving our old bangers or upgrade, cross our fingers and everything else we can cross and hope all goes well.

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Follow Up By: Dean K3 - Thursday, Nov 02, 2017 at 16:23

Thursday, Nov 02, 2017 at 16:23
left a , out was listing the engines in general ie V8 diesel (per 200 series & troopie/tray back)

And oddly enough Prado as known in US market as a Lexus LX??? do have a v8 petrol option
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