100 Series TD GXL Auto Vibration
Submitted: Saturday, Dec 02, 2017 at 14:15
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Member - Jennifer B
I have recently noticed that around the 2000 - 2200 Rev range I've been getting some vibrations and particularly noticeable when you put the foot down.
There are no vibrations when I rev the motor while stationary.
Mechanic had a look at the tail shaft and universal joints and all seems OK.
He had a look at the CV joints without pulling them apart at this stage and they seem fine.
He says without pulling them apart and looking for wear etc he can't be sure.
The other thing he says it could be is that the tailshaft might be out of balance, and without sending it away he can't tell.
He checked the engine mounts and they are fine.
The vehicle has done 185,000 kms.
I had new BFG all terrains fitted, balanced and a wheel alignment done a few months ago and all was fine.
Can anyone shed some light on what the problem might be? I'd appreciate it very much.
Michael.
Reply By: Athol W1 - Sunday, Dec 03, 2017 at 10:07
Sunday, Dec 03, 2017 at 10:07
Jennifer
Whilst you say that the vibration is around the 2000-2200 rev range you do not mention if this is the same in all gears, or just one gear, and until you can tell us this you will be getting a lot of false diagnosis. Also is this vibration a drumming sound or can you physically feel it through some part of the vehicle,(
seat or steering wheel, and if the steering wheel does it cause some rotational or vertical type of movement). The rate of this vibration would also help with the diagnosis (fast, slow, wheel speed or about every 2 metres travelled etc)
On the
information that you have supplied I would suspect either engine mounts (I believe that there are at least some 100TD's that have hydraulic engine mounts, which can rupture causing the mount to 'solidify' and many mechanics have mis-diagnosed), or a seized universal joint which can only be found by the removal of the respective drive (tail) shaft.
Regards
Athol
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Follow Up By: Member - Jennifer B - Sunday, Dec 03, 2017 at 11:06
Sunday, Dec 03, 2017 at 11:06
Hi Athol,
The vibration happens in all gears. You can feel it physically as the Driver or Passenger. There is no steering wheel wobble or rotation of any sort, but you can feel the vibration coming through and it is constant whilst under load.
I have noticed this morning that there is a faint vibration starting at around 1600 revs whilst I was on a very smooth section of road, but it's most noticeable at the 2000 - 2200 rev range. Once I take my foot off the accelerator the vibrations cease.
Could it be that maybe engine mounts are shot and because of acceleration and rotational forces of the motor, it is throwing something out of line eg tailshaft and or universal joints.
Many thanks for your thoughts on this matter.
Michael.
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Follow Up By: Allan B (Sunshine Coast) - Sunday, Dec 03, 2017 at 13:16
Sunday, Dec 03, 2017 at 13:16
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Jennifer,
"Once I take my foot off the accelerator the vibrations cease."
I should think that eliminates wheel or tyre balance problems.
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Follow Up By: Athol W1 - Sunday, Dec 03, 2017 at 21:21
Sunday, Dec 03, 2017 at 21:21
Jennifer
As the vibration is there in all gears at an engine speed of 2000-2200rpm then that eliminates anything to do with wheels, axles and tail shafts (drive shafts), as all of these the speed varies with road speed. And as it is only there when under load that eliminates such things as the engine fan or other rotating parts of the engine.
What is left is such things as engine or exhaust mounts that have either collapsed or gone hard with age. As a long shot it may even be the chassis to body mounts that have collapsed resulting in the body now sitting directly on the chassis. There is also the possibility of a stone or similar becoming lodged between the body and the chassis or a stick that has got between the transmission and the floor (have you been bush recently)
What you are describing is typical of the normal diesel engine harmonics being transferred to the body of the vehicle, it is just a matter of finding the track that they are taking, and this may be easier said than done.
Good luck.
Athol
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