Prado 2003 Tyres
Submitted: Tuesday, Jun 08, 2004 at 16:31
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Elmer
Hi all,
I have recently purchased a 2003 Prado TD and want to change the tyres from the abysmal Grand
Treks to something more substantial. On my 4 previous vehicles i had BFG Mud Terrains and couldn't fault them. I have researched a few tyre suppliers and it appears that only the All Terrain is available in a 265/70/R17.
My question is this. Will fitting a taller tyre like the 265/70 cause any problems with
suspension? There doesn't appear to be much room under the front guards between the spring mounts. Will i need to modify
suspension. I don't particularly wish to do this yet. Any
feedback would be great. Also if anyone else has similar tyres (Sizes or makes) any info would be of interest.
Cheers
Reply By: Outnabout David (SA) - Tuesday, Jun 08, 2004 at 17:20
Tuesday, Jun 08, 2004 at 17:20
Elmer,
I run the BFG A/T's because that was the only LT rated tyre available when I got
mine. I am sure it won't be long and you will see the MT's here.They are available o/seas so it might be worth the wait. If you have no bull bar or an alloy you shouldn't have any problems but I had a steel bar and on full compression and on a lock tyre rubbed on splash shield. No probs justs sounds awefull. Still rubs a little with new
suspension but no physical drama's at all. i believe Cooper are coming out with a LT ST tyre and they also have a LT A/T tyre if you ask specifically for it. Your choice of brand is up to you and open to a lot of debate like Toyota vs Nissan etc.
One thing I have noticed is that as far as 17"goes there is a lot of tyre dealers that have no idea of what the tyre is they are selling. Some people have told me that tyre dealers have told them that BFG were not LT and others have been told that the A/t tyres such as bridgestone are LT when clearly they are not.
Just be carefull and research thoroughly.
Cheers
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Reply By: DrewT - Tuesday, Jun 08, 2004 at 17:52
Tuesday, Jun 08, 2004 at 17:52
Coopers told me in early May that the 265/70/17 ST would be in stock in Aust by end of May. However, in the end i have decided to go for the Cooper 265/7017 AT and a 50mm
suspension upgrade on my Prado. This is booked in for next week at Guests 4WD in Melb. They say they have done a few of these now and no trouble with the oversize tyres rubbing at all.
Am interested to hear that the Cooper AT is avail in LT spec if you ask for it because I thought the AT was only avail as a LT??? I'll have to ring and re-
check that one
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Follow Up By: Member - StevenL - Tuesday, Jun 08, 2004 at 18:32
Tuesday, Jun 08, 2004 at 18:32
Drew,
I asked about fitting the LTs when I got my Coopers and the fitter said that they are available and are tougher but are a pig to balance and may lead to vibrations. For my application the passenger P265/70R17 was enough. Have had no probs so far and the tyres have been beaut. No rubbing at all with standard
suspension. Very little noise.
Cheers
Steven
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Follow Up By: Member - StevenL - Tuesday, Jun 08, 2004 at 18:37
Tuesday, Jun 08, 2004 at 18:37
Sorry Drew, For clarity's sake I have the Cooper passenger P265/70R17 A/T tyres. I did not mention A/T in my reply. The LT265/70R17 is also available in Cooper A/T but that is the one my fitter was saying was hard to keep in balance properly.
Steven
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Reply By: steve - Tuesday, Jun 08, 2004 at 18:36
Tuesday, Jun 08, 2004 at 18:36
Hi Elmer,
Our new Prado has had BFG's fitted since new in 265/70/17. No problems with contact on body or
suspension. Couldn't be happier with them.
Steve.
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Follow Up By: Nixon - Tuesday, Jun 08, 2004 at 20:20
Tuesday, Jun 08, 2004 at 20:20
Hi Elmer,
I glad that I am not the only one unhappy with the Grand
Treks.
I posted the same query as you a month or so ago and got a lot of helpful advice. I was looking at the 265/70's in 17". Some of the advice I got was to be patient !
There is apparently a lag time before the tyre manufacturers catch up with the car manufacturers. The poor tyre dealers haven't a clue and you have to do your own research.
Bridgestone have just released their Dueller heavy duty A/T D694 which comes in 265/65R17 - just what the doctor ordered!!
I am relying on other people's perception of the previous Duellers and will have to order them without seeing them as there aren't too many around yet. (they have to be better than what I've got!)
Hope this is of some help,
Regards, Nick
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Follow Up By: fub - Friday, Jun 11, 2004 at 21:27
Friday, Jun 11, 2004 at 21:27
Steve
I take delivery of a new TD Prado, in a few weeks and want to change the tyres. Just checking that the 265/70 - 17 spare fits on the back door??
Thanks
Hayden
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Follow Up By: Elmer - Tuesday, Jun 15, 2004 at 16:09
Tuesday, Jun 15, 2004 at 16:09
Thanks for the reply Steve,
Just wondered what price you paid for the BFG's. I have been quoted $310.00 each! Considering that you can get a M/T for a 16" rim for low 200's this seems exessive. Might have to
check out other manufacturers for price.
Cheers,
Elmer.
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Follow Up By: steve - Tuesday, Jun 15, 2004 at 17:21
Tuesday, Jun 15, 2004 at 17:21
Elmer,
I had the BFG's put on from brand new and they cost $65 ea to change over. Don't know an actual cost of the tyres though. The last set I bought were 295/75/16 and cost $240 each
Steve.
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Follow Up By: steve - Tuesday, Jun 15, 2004 at 17:27
Tuesday, Jun 15, 2004 at 17:27
Sorry, should have read 285/75/16
Steve.
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Reply By: steve - Friday, Jun 11, 2004 at 21:43
Friday, Jun 11, 2004 at 21:43
Hi Hayden,
To fit the BFG on the rear door you have to remove and discard the black plastic shield from behind, and then space the wheel out from the bracket by around 10-15mm. Used a piece of high density nylon for my spacer. Light, non abrasive, wont rust and easy to work with. Have just fitted new springs too, not for tyre clearance but more ground clearance.
Steve.
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Follow Up By: fub - Saturday, Jun 12, 2004 at 11:21
Saturday, Jun 12, 2004 at 11:21
Thanks Steve
Just for everyones information, I've found an AT Yokahama that comes in 265/65 - 17
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Looks fairly aggressive but I'm going to have a look round and decide on the others available in the 70 profile.
Cheers
Hayden
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Reply By: Carbon13 - Friday, Jun 18, 2004 at 22:20
Friday, Jun 18, 2004 at 22:20
I brought a new TD Prado a couple of months ago and asked the dealer for the Cooper A/T rubber... at first they stuffed up and fitted the Cooper HT's. The AT tyres have a slight hum at highway speeds compared to the HTs - but really glad I insisted they fit the ATs.
The change over price from new was $300 all up!! That's right $300 to replace the Grand
Treks with 5 new Coopers!
The Tyrepower guys spoke to Cooper direct on my behalf and the S/T rubber will be available on a 17" rim 'late 2004'.
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Reply By: Carbon13 - Friday, Jun 18, 2004 at 22:21
Friday, Jun 18, 2004 at 22:21
I brought a new TD Prado a couple of months ago and asked the dealer for the Cooper A/T rubber... at first they stuffed up and fitted the Cooper HT's. The AT tyres have a slight hum at highway speeds compared to the HTs - but really glad I insisted they fit the ATs (got to drive on the HTs for 3 weeks first though).
The change over price from new was $300 all up!! That's right $300 to replace the Grand
Treks with 5 new Coopers!
The Tyrepower guys spoke to Cooper direct on my behalf and the S/T rubber will be available on a 17" rim 'late 2004'.
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