Trees vandalised

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Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Friday, Dec 15, 2017 at 19:22

Friday, Dec 15, 2017 at 19:22
Vandals is too kind of a descriptive word.

These type of people are genuine yobbos with too low an intelligence as to the result of their actions.
I could use a more descriptive word for them but alas, I would be sensored.

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Reply By: Member - Tony H (touring oz) - Friday, Dec 15, 2017 at 21:16

Friday, Dec 15, 2017 at 21:16
Absolute F..kwits.....WHY WHY WHY
GET A LIFE ......Dead set looosers!
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Reply By: Kazza055 - Friday, Dec 15, 2017 at 22:22

Friday, Dec 15, 2017 at 22:22
That would have to be a 20"+ blade needed to cut down that size tree, how many weekend worries would have one that big?
To me it was done by a professional but why?.
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Follow Up By: mike39 - Saturday, Dec 16, 2017 at 08:37

Saturday, Dec 16, 2017 at 08:37
Nope, not done by anyone who knew what they were doing.

Simply sawn straight through, there was no scarf cut to control the direction of fall, those trees could have fallen in any direction or spun violently on the stump and speared back as they dropped.

Very lucky to have escaped injury or death, but maybe that is what was deserved.

Having said that, the tree nearest the table (pic.1)with the heart rotted out, was a huge danger with the every possibility of dropping branches or falling itself without any warning.
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Follow Up By: Iza B - Saturday, Dec 16, 2017 at 11:07

Saturday, Dec 16, 2017 at 11:07
Trees that have started to pipe are valuable as they go on to develop nesting hollows and the like. In short, those trees are wanted and needed. Piped trunks are not necessarily dangerous and any tree surgeon has the skills to decide if dangerous or not. I live on acreage and have several trees much larger than that shown and have been assessed and retained. Two of the trees are over 150 years old and are only now becoming nesting and denning opportunities for the wildlife.

All NP rangers have a stated authority and work practice to ensure dangers to the public are identified and made safe. I am sure that any trees adjacent to a new picnic area would have been assessed. Mostly, any limbs that might become a problem in the short term are removed long before a trunk is cut.

Clearly, the vandals belong to that group who often "destroy what others come to enjoy". Don't know what the fines are now but upwards of $20000 at tree would be about right.

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Follow Up By: mike39 - Saturday, Dec 16, 2017 at 17:04

Saturday, Dec 16, 2017 at 17:04
Iza.
Unfortunately I have to totally disagree with you.

Such a tree with that extent of termite/rot infested heart and be considered safe by a simple arborist examination is pure folly.

I have seen large trees like shown demolished by one wrap of detonated cordite to reveal a shell that could collapse at any time.

The risk, of course is all yours.

Maybe when camped along the Murray river you always seek the shade from the majestic river red gums.....

For the vandals......no any penalty is sufficient.....but if apprehended will be no more than a wrist slap anyway
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Follow Up By: Member - David M (SA) - Saturday, Dec 16, 2017 at 21:51

Saturday, Dec 16, 2017 at 21:51
You would also have to question the decision of NP to site a camp ground under 100 year old gums.
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Reply By: Paul E6 - Saturday, Dec 16, 2017 at 01:44

Saturday, Dec 16, 2017 at 01:44
That would have taken real sweat and effort - not something your average westy yob would have it in him to do. Also they would have had some planning involved, not really an impulsive act. Amazing they wernt observed, it would have taken some time.
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Reply By: terryt - Saturday, Dec 16, 2017 at 06:56

Saturday, Dec 16, 2017 at 06:56
One of the pics showed a tree with a hollow trunk. Perhaps one part of National Parks cut them down as they were considered dangerous and forgot to tell other parts of National Parks.
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Follow Up By: Member - David M (SA) - Saturday, Dec 16, 2017 at 08:07

Saturday, Dec 16, 2017 at 08:07
Think N/P would have cleaned them up Terry but I think your on to something.
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Follow Up By: axle - Saturday, Dec 16, 2017 at 09:26

Saturday, Dec 16, 2017 at 09:26
Hi Terry. I think your right, can you imagine what would be said if a tree fell across a tent,?... then the blame gets shifted real quick!!!. What a funny mob we are!

Cheers Axle.
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Follow Up By: mike39 - Saturday, Dec 16, 2017 at 10:52

Saturday, Dec 16, 2017 at 10:52
That's a pretty good thought Terryt.

From what I have seen of NP employees, that would be about their level of thinking and expertise.
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Follow Up By: Baz - The Landy - Saturday, Dec 16, 2017 at 12:26

Saturday, Dec 16, 2017 at 12:26
Whenever I am in National Parks I see NP employees committed to the job they do. It might be firefighting, back-burning, clearing tracks, emptying bins, committed to the preservation of wildlife, I guess the list could go on…

For the most part, I see NP employees as people who enjoy being Out & About in the bush, like most of us.

I’ll tip my hat to the hard working NP employees.

Cheers, Baz – The Landy
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Follow Up By: Allan B (Sunshine Coast) - Saturday, Dec 16, 2017 at 13:34

Saturday, Dec 16, 2017 at 13:34
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Gotta agree Baz, although there are less-and-less bins to empty these days.

From the pics, it appears that the trees were cut with one sweep, requiring a 24" or 30" blade. Maybe not your average camper? But as Mike has said, there was no scarf to control the fall. No NP employee would fell a tree that way.

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Reply By: Member - Bigfish - Saturday, Dec 16, 2017 at 18:18

Saturday, Dec 16, 2017 at 18:18
Well whoever did the job I have one wish...next time they use a chainsaw they cut one of their own limbs off. Sick and tired of the scum stealing our oxygen.
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Reply By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Saturday, Dec 16, 2017 at 19:10

Saturday, Dec 16, 2017 at 19:10
It definitely is not NP work, the News article said a Vic NP guy spoke to 3AW about the damage and also the fact they were 100 yo trees. But you would have to wonder about the mindset of the tossers who decided it would be a good idea to cut them down. Also how often do we hear of Pioneer Cemeteries vandalised, headstones smashed beyond recognition and repair. Michael
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