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Submitted: Thursday, Dec 21, 2017 at 09:21
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Hi all, we had the opportunity to move to a pop top caravan, from our Cub hard floor, we think it's been a good move at this stage.
The previous owners have told us to leave the window zips in the roof skirt fully open when closing the roof.. as always, elderly couple next to us said they should be done up, closed... anyone know more about this, be interested to hear anymore advise or comments.. Van is a Coromal pioneer 511 off road... Sue and I are both novices at this.. thanks all Odog
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Reply By: Shaker - Thursday, Dec 21, 2017 at 09:37

Thursday, Dec 21, 2017 at 09:37
I have an Australian Off Road Quantum & always have the zips done up, just make sure that you have the door open when you pop the roof or close it.

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Reply By: Member - Russ55 - Thursday, Dec 21, 2017 at 09:38

Thursday, Dec 21, 2017 at 09:38
I close mine. When lowering the lid, it helps to create a vacuum sucking the skirt in.
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Follow Up By: Member - Odog - Thursday, Dec 21, 2017 at 11:33

Thursday, Dec 21, 2017 at 11:33
Makes sense.. cheers
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Follow Up By: RMD - Thursday, Dec 21, 2017 at 13:34

Thursday, Dec 21, 2017 at 13:34
If anything the lowering of the top creates a PRESSURE in the van and not a vacuum. So it won't be sucking in the skirt at all. With door open and zips closed you won't notice any difference raising or lowering. Most skirts have vertical spring strips to initiate the onward fold and designed that way to make it come inward.
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Follow Up By: Nomadic Navara - Thursday, Dec 21, 2017 at 13:35

Thursday, Dec 21, 2017 at 13:35
No it does not make sense. When you lower the top you are decreasing the volume of air enclosed in the van. If you pull the top down with everything closed up you will force the skirt outward so as to try to maintain the same air volume.

We totally close the zips as there seems to be dust collecting inside if the zips are left open a bit. At any rate you need the vents closed up so they are not creased by becoming badly folded when the top comes down.
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Reply By: Member - Allan L2 - Thursday, Dec 21, 2017 at 12:47

Thursday, Dec 21, 2017 at 12:47
Hi Odog,
We always close ours. As Shaker says make sure to leave door open when lifting & lowering the top. Its quite heavy to lift with out a large volume of air entering & quite likely to push the skirt out when lowering if the air can't escape quickly.
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Reply By: KevinE - Friday, Dec 22, 2017 at 08:19

Friday, Dec 22, 2017 at 08:19
We leave the zips done up when closing also. (We did pretty much the same as you, sold a camper trailer & bought a pop-top. Had it 2 years & now looking to go back to a CT)
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Reply By: Parafan - Friday, Dec 22, 2017 at 10:33

Friday, Dec 22, 2017 at 10:33
Close em. Helps keep the dust out. If the skirt doesn't fold in easily or keeps leaving bits hanging outside when you drop the lid, try putting a bungy cord completely around the middle of the skirt. You will have to muck about a bit to get the right length so it's not too tight or lose. Also keep the shafts of the struts reasonably clean. Dust and grime build up on these can result in stuffing up the O ring in the strut and next thing you are crawling about inside until you find a few sticks to keep the lid up haha.
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Follow Up By: Dean K3 - Friday, Dec 22, 2017 at 11:05

Friday, Dec 22, 2017 at 11:05
Guess that bungy cord could apply to a windup unit.

Every 6 inches of down ward travel I go around pushing walls inside so they don't get pinched or left dangling outside
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Follow Up By: Parafan - Friday, Dec 22, 2017 at 11:56

Friday, Dec 22, 2017 at 11:56
Yea the amount of skirt in the windup might be too heavy for a bungy. You could try just wrapping a length of rope around it with a loop and keep pulling it in as you lower the lid.
BTW - I have a mate with one less eye after pulling too hard on an old bungy cord. So please be careful and check for wear or slipping knots.
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Follow Up By: Dean K3 - Friday, Dec 22, 2017 at 15:24

Friday, Dec 22, 2017 at 15:24
I would never use "elastic bungy cords" in this method for that very reason.

I have mentioned before young kid was killed after one let loose in karratha centro shopping centre when he was collecting trolleys, first day on job too.

From what I can gather attachment end (hook and coil) came adrift and flew through air collecting him in neck causing major trauma and injury to neck area preventing breathing to occur.

when I refer to bungy cord, its really shock cord like used inside a dome tent pole allowing - this could be somehow tension when fully wound up and then pull sides in as you lower the roof down pulling in side as you go.
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Follow Up By: Member - Odog - Friday, Dec 22, 2017 at 20:40

Friday, Dec 22, 2017 at 20:40
I have heard that about the young fella collecting trollies.. very sad..
I had a mate that had to carry his eye ball in his hand, still attached.. for 5 hours, while his wife drove to the nearest hospital.. camped out back, just about finished packing up, when the ocky strap on the roof let fly...
The Skirt seems to fold in neatly, no dramas, no fold marks or anything.. just been told contradicting things... thanks for the replies all.. Cheers Odog
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Follow Up By: Batt's - Friday, Dec 22, 2017 at 22:33

Friday, Dec 22, 2017 at 22:33
We had an old pop top yrs ago and as mentioned door open and put the hook on it I didn't one day and it pulls you up quick when it slams shut form the suction while pushing the roof up. Always left vents closed with roof down do a lap around the van check the skirts not hanging our then done up the clips.
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Follow Up By: Member - Trevor_H - Sunday, Dec 24, 2017 at 08:01

Sunday, Dec 24, 2017 at 08:01
Use stretch cord around the middle...same stuff as bungy cord without the hooks...buy by the length in different diameters from Bunnings or the like.
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Follow Up By: Nomadic Navara - Sunday, Dec 24, 2017 at 13:10

Sunday, Dec 24, 2017 at 13:10
Bungee cord (note the spelling) does not necessarily have metal or other hard ends on it. See the link.
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Reply By: GerryG - Saturday, Dec 23, 2017 at 12:41

Saturday, Dec 23, 2017 at 12:41
Our 25 year old Golf pop top has vertical stiffeners sewn into the material that curve inwards. When lowering the roof these stiffeners bend the material inwards.
There are about 3 along each side. Good idea to make sure the door is open though.
Being new ourselves to pop tops, we zip the top windows closed to protect the sewn in fly screen.
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Reply By: Jarse - Monday, Dec 25, 2017 at 17:19

Monday, Dec 25, 2017 at 17:19
As long as the flaps don’t catch on anything if they’re open it doesn’t matter which way you go. If dust is getting in that way, I would be trying to find out why the roof seal is leaking. That’s what should be keeping the dust out.

In warmer weather I leave mine open. In winter I leave them closed. No dust problems either way.
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Monday, Dec 25, 2017 at 20:32

Monday, Dec 25, 2017 at 20:32
I accidentally left one zip undone on my Quantum & when the roof came down it broke the zip slider!
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Follow Up By: Jarse - Tuesday, Dec 26, 2017 at 11:01

Tuesday, Dec 26, 2017 at 11:01
Gidday Shaker,

I have a Q4, and haven't had any hassles at all. Go figure.... I check that nothing is going to catch before I lower the roof. Can't see any potential catch-points....
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Wednesday, Dec 27, 2017 at 08:26

Wednesday, Dec 27, 2017 at 08:26
I couldn’t either, but it happened.
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