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Submitted: Monday, Jan 22, 2018 at 14:07
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Had a strange problem early last week with a mobile ph
Car is 2011 LC200 GXL
Mates phone: HTC with Belkin charger.
Plugged into top 12v aux by ash tray.
When I stopped the car and opened the door it began beeping at me. Got outside and could not lock it...seemed as tho keys were left inside.. but no. Replaced battery on remote etc but no go. beginning to think i had a faulty remote or something. Rang home to make sure spare remote was at home and not misplaced somewhere inside car.
Just by chance when I opened the door again for the 221277th time while fault finding mate disconnected his phone and all went normal???????
Plugged phone back in and all went stupid again.
Tested his phone with a normal usb cable and separate adpator and all was well
Tested his phone on the Belkin (the cable cannot be removed from the Belkin adaptor) and plugged into LOWER 12V aux and all OK.
So it seems that the Belkin HTC charger is the cause and only on top 12v aux.
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Reply By: RMD - Monday, Jan 22, 2018 at 14:22

Monday, Jan 22, 2018 at 14:22
It is the Chineses equivalent of the Tom Jones Syndrome, "It's Not Unusual".

Similar power units for Dash cams sometimes render Mazda CX 7 audio head units pretty useless, until unplugged. Just can't start them with it in the ciggy plug.
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Reply By: MarkHugh - Monday, Jan 22, 2018 at 16:41

Monday, Jan 22, 2018 at 16:41
G'day #1

From Toyota manual...
"The smart key system uses weak radio waves. In the following situations, the
communication between the electronic key and the vehicle may be affected,
preventing the smart key system, wireless remote control and engine immobilizer
system from operating properly.
(Ways of coping: ?P. 540)
?When the electronic key battery is depleted
?Near a TV tower, electric power plant, gas station, radio station, large display,
airport or other facility that generates strong radio waves or electrical
noise
?When the electronic key is in contact with, or is covered by the following
metallic objects
• Cards to which aluminum foil is attached
• Cigarette boxes that have aluminum foil inside
• Metallic wallets or bags
• Coins
• Hand warmers made of metal
• Media such as CDs and DVDs
?When other wireless keys (that emit radio waves) are being used nearby
?When carrying the electronic key together with the following devices that
emit radio waves
• When carrying a portable radio, cellular phone, cordless phone or other
wireless communication device
• Another vehicle’s electronic key or a wireless key that emits radio waves
• Personal computers or personal digital assistants (PDAs)
• Digital audio players
• Portable game systems
?If window tint with a metallic content or metallic objects are attached to the
rear window
?When the electronic key is placed near a battery charger or electronic
devices"

And there are a whole lot of other conditions listed as well.

Cheers,
Mark
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Follow Up By: Member No 1 - Monday, Jan 22, 2018 at 17:57

Monday, Jan 22, 2018 at 17:57
key was with me when I was out of car. It only caused problems when plugged into top Aux by ash tray..not the bottom one.
Just heard from my mate and it it also happens in his 4yo VX LC200
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Follow Up By: Gronk - Monday, Jan 22, 2018 at 20:04

Monday, Jan 22, 2018 at 20:04
As per Marks post above, the top 12V socket is the nearest to the push button start, which is also the receiver etc for the radio waves. Most likely interference from the phone charger acting upon the 12V plug you had plugged in.
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Follow Up By: Member No 1 - Tuesday, Jan 23, 2018 at 11:09

Tuesday, Jan 23, 2018 at 11:09
as it only happend with the belkin and not my adaptor I worked that out back monday week
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Reply By: Tony F8 - Monday, Jan 22, 2018 at 17:17

Monday, Jan 22, 2018 at 17:17
And people take em off road, makes me love my 80 series even more
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Follow Up By: Member No 1 - Monday, Jan 22, 2018 at 17:54

Monday, Jan 22, 2018 at 17:54
yeah great 4wd...but old and outdated!...did they actually have radio?
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Reply By: Gramps - Monday, Jan 22, 2018 at 19:09

Monday, Jan 22, 2018 at 19:09
Serves you right for being taken in by all those new fangled gizmos.

Regards
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Follow Up By: Member No 1 - Tuesday, Jan 23, 2018 at 11:10

Tuesday, Jan 23, 2018 at 11:10
Yep going back to wireless drums
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Reply By: Dean K3 - Monday, Jan 22, 2018 at 20:12

Monday, Jan 22, 2018 at 20:12
Might want to be careful of the belkin unit

This happened to me last week, thankfully cable wasn't attached to a load ie phone or left on a flammable surface -in my case kitchen benchtop. Showed unit to 2 x sales/techs and both of them never seen anything like it before. Not sure I'd want a replacement unit either in acse that allows smoke to escape as well
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Reply By: Gary T7 - Tuesday, Jan 23, 2018 at 23:04

Tuesday, Jan 23, 2018 at 23:04
Just for your info also.
The cig lighter outlet is powered on via the acc relay
battery-- fuses-- accessory relay-- cig lighter.
The relay is controlled and switched on from the main body ECU.

The power outlet is powered on via the power outlet relay
battery-- fuses -- Power outlet relay-- power outlet,
This is also controlled and switched on from the main body ECU .

Two different relays.
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Reply By: Member - Robert1660 - Wednesday, Jan 24, 2018 at 22:53

Wednesday, Jan 24, 2018 at 22:53
I had a similar problem this a twin USB cigarette socket charger. The vehicle was a fairly recent Holden Commodore. For some reason this device appeared to upset the vehicle computer to the extent that the car would not start after being turned off or other odd behaviour. To get things back to normal required a battery disconnect and reconnect.
Robert
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