Firestone Riderite airbags

Submitted: Tuesday, Feb 19, 2019 at 09:36
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Planing a major trip later in the year and will be loaded up. The local Pedders dealer said that these bags "never fail" It's just the connections that need replacing (which I recently did on the valve end).

I'm not so sure..............

The bags have been on the car for around 12 years now, 10 of that in Darwin.
The quoted cost of replacement was well north of $1000. Just way to steep!
Has anyone had one of these fail?
Can anyone shed some light on getting replacements? If memory serves me correctly, there is a deliberate re naming etc from the American reference so as to confuse us Aussie buyers, hence making it difficult to source.
Don't need the brackets, just the bags.

Any help would be appreciated.

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Reply By: RMD - Tuesday, Feb 19, 2019 at 10:35

Tuesday, Feb 19, 2019 at 10:35
I used the same looking bags on a LCruiser for a while, sold it, kept the bags though. Although some years back the two bags cost me a little over $400. To be well above $1000 now, someone is creaming a bit off the top even with normal price rise factored in. If buying through Pedders, they will add their commission/% increase to whatever they can be bought for from suppliers. It all adds up.
What you don't need is too many middle men involved.
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Reply By: Mick O - Tuesday, Feb 19, 2019 at 10:40

Tuesday, Feb 19, 2019 at 10:40
Mate those convoluted bellows bags are as tough as nails. I used them for 4 years on my 79 before going over to a rolling sleeve type bag to cater for a 4" lift. I've not heard of one failing. They are also very hard to damage. Most people bleat about their chassis cracking before the airbag gives way :-)

If you're concerned about their age, at $1000 to replace here in Oz you may well be better importing direct from the USA.

Maintenance wise, just make sure they are aligned nicely and that the bottom brackets in particular have not slipped. This would prevent any wear from rubbing through misalignment.

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Follow Up By: Mick O - Tuesday, Feb 19, 2019 at 10:47

Tuesday, Feb 19, 2019 at 10:47
Found a few on the web for $830 but that is the full kit. Airbags alone would be cheaper. Get onto the 'airbag man' on line or similar for a quote.
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Follow Up By: OBJ - Tuesday, Feb 19, 2019 at 20:12

Tuesday, Feb 19, 2019 at 20:12
I used to get mine direct from America for a lot less than they were being sold for here, and that includes a less than favourable exchange rate.

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Follow Up By: Member - lyndon NT - Thursday, Feb 21, 2019 at 20:51

Thursday, Feb 21, 2019 at 20:51
Thanks guys

Yep, found them a WHOLE lot cheaper out of the US. Just waiting on some other quotes now.
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Reply By: Ron N - Wednesday, Feb 20, 2019 at 09:41

Wednesday, Feb 20, 2019 at 09:41
Lyndon - At 12 yrs old, your airbags are due for replacement. The butyl rubber they're made from, slowly degrades over time.
They will very rarely fail catastrophically, they just develop splits and start to leak.

They are not really all that expensive when you source them from the right sources.
It's true that local suppliers will try to hide the origin, original part numbers, and the cheap suppliers of airbags.

America is where you will find them cheap, just make sure you don't get ripped off on freight or postage.
I've had American suppliers send items via UPS - all UPS did was use the USPS and charge double what USPS did.
Shopmate is a good way to get items to Australia fairly cheaply, particularly if the American supplier is offering free shipping within the U.S.

If you pull your airbags off, you will quite likely find original manufacturer part numbers on the mounting plate area, which are currently hidden.

I just sold some very large (new, surplus) airbags to fit a Scania truck.
They would be 3 times the size of your airbags, and they are only $600 from Scania - and you can buy European aftermarket airbags for about 2/3rds the price of the genuine Scania ones.

Cheers, Ron.
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Follow Up By: Member - lyndon NT - Thursday, Feb 21, 2019 at 08:02

Thursday, Feb 21, 2019 at 08:02
Thanks Ron

I hadn't thought of there being part numbers on the top or bottom. I'll have to pull one off and have a look.
I agree with your thoughts about the life span. Not sure if the anyone has clicked and zoomed in on my pictures?
You can see them separating top and bottom.
Would that cause them to fail soon, mmm, not sure. Don't really want to find out fully loaded and in the middle of nowhere.

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Reply By: Leigh H - Thursday, Feb 21, 2019 at 17:31

Thursday, Feb 21, 2019 at 17:31
Hi Lyndon. I had purchased 3 new bags that you require for a project that I discontinued. If you are interested happy to sell the 3 at $100ea and all the fittings etc. if you want my contact mobile MickO could supply. Cheers
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Follow Up By: Member - lyndon NT - Thursday, Feb 21, 2019 at 20:47

Thursday, Feb 21, 2019 at 20:47
Hi Leah

Can you please tell me the part number that is stamped on each bag.

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Follow Up By: Member - lyndon NT - Thursday, Feb 21, 2019 at 20:49

Thursday, Feb 21, 2019 at 20:49
Hi Leah

Or just shoot me an email of the bag with model number in view.

Your mate can access my email address.

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Follow Up By: Leigh H - Thursday, Feb 21, 2019 at 21:14

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Follow Up By: Member - lyndon NT - Thursday, Feb 21, 2019 at 22:04

Thursday, Feb 21, 2019 at 22:04
Thanks Leah

I'll be in touch over the weekend.

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Follow Up By: Member - lyndon NT - Sunday, Feb 24, 2019 at 22:12

Sunday, Feb 24, 2019 at 22:12
Hi Leah

Iv'e contacted your mate to give you my details. No response as yet.

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Reply By: Mtaska - Monday, Feb 25, 2019 at 21:40

Monday, Feb 25, 2019 at 21:40
Hi lyndon.
I am also in the planning stages of a 20,000+ km trip with similar airbags on my camper. I took pics of the cracking around the bottom and sent them to then spoke to the importer at clamp industries(also known as airbag man) and they tell me thats nothing to worry about and that there is 3 more layers below what you can see. I asked if he would do the trip himself with bags like that and the response was a confident yes.
Now they could have said " nah mate you really want to replace them" and i would have in a heartbeat and told them exactly that bit they reckon they ard still all good.
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