Canopy

Submitted: Wednesday, Jun 05, 2019 at 13:54
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Purchased a Hilux in 2015 with a canopy from Toyota. It has leaked whenever it rained, eventually after many attempts to stop leaks dealer decided to replace it. Put on Tuesday rained that evening and guess what it still leaks. Has anyone had similar problems and if so how was it solved?
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Reply By: RMD - Wednesday, Jun 05, 2019 at 16:54

Wednesday, Jun 05, 2019 at 16:54
Lloyd M1
Where is it leaking from/to. It shouldn't be hard to identify where the water is entering. Either directly or capillary action is traceable.
I purchased a Flexiglass canopy for a different vehicle and although most of it was OK, water entered and dropped into the rear 100mm of the tub unless the vehicle was aimed sharply uphill at front.
Flexiglass in their wisdom made the underside of the canopy opening flat at each side, and trimmed with a flock like lining it simply wicked the water passing down the rear channel sides, forward into the tub and dropped down. They travelled 150km to fix it but had no idea how. Very professional indeed. After using their urethane to seal each side and leave a positive, drip like tail, of urethane as a drop point for the water to follow and exit past the tailgate links, all has been ok since. Capillary action was the problem.
Your problem may be similar as I believe it is fairly common problem with canopies. Any water entering at sides or front means it wasn't sealed at time of fitting and would need to be sealed properly.
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Reply By: Member - Andrew - Wednesday, Jun 05, 2019 at 17:16

Wednesday, Jun 05, 2019 at 17:16
You could try coating the inside of the canopy with talcum powder in the places you think it is leaking. Spray the outside and hopefully there will be a snail trail develop in the talc where the water comes in.

When finding the entry point of water can be complicated by waters ability to track through gaps and run along seams and channels before appearing inside. If you don't find obvious holes or gaps then thinking is needed to imagine how it could have tracked to the wet spot.

Ford dealers back in the 70's used to put an ultrasonic sound generator inside the vehicle and then use a detector on the outside to find dust entry points, but I don't know if anyone still has them.

regards

A
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Follow Up By: RMD - Wednesday, Jun 05, 2019 at 20:26

Wednesday, Jun 05, 2019 at 20:26
You could also use a strong LED torch which allows you to see what other globe torches does not reveal. The light is quite different and is good for fault tracing.
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Follow Up By: Gary T7 - Thursday, Jun 06, 2019 at 10:37

Thursday, Jun 06, 2019 at 10:37
You could also use air pressure on the inside with air gun blowing along the seams and put soapy water on the outside you will soon see bubbles where there is a leak path.
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Follow Up By: RMD - Thursday, Jun 06, 2019 at 11:39

Thursday, Jun 06, 2019 at 11:39
Isn't it strange the forum people have various valid ways of detecting water leaks but a dealer of the equipment doesn't possess the skills or the inclination to really look.
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Reply By: Kazza055 - Thursday, Jun 06, 2019 at 13:35

Thursday, Jun 06, 2019 at 13:35
My SIL had an ARB canopy fitted to his Colorado and they were unable to seal it.

I went for the SMM canopy which is all steel and has a lip the extends over the edge of the tray on both sides and the rear. The front has rubber gasket across the front between the canopy and front tray lip. I assume that this same gasket is also fitted on both sides.



End result is that no water can get in.

Just about all the other canopies just sit in the tray lip making it very hard to seal them.

Even though these weigh about 85kg, they are not all that much heavier than the light weight moulded ones. If you want to fit a roof rack on the steel one, they can carry the roof does not need to be reinforcing unlike the lighter ones.

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Reply By: Batt's - Saturday, Jun 08, 2019 at 01:32

Saturday, Jun 08, 2019 at 01:32
Planning on driving on gravel roads or just a tarmac warrior.
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Follow Up By: qldcamper - Tuesday, Jun 11, 2019 at 06:35

Tuesday, Jun 11, 2019 at 06:35
Cant see the relevance of that statement.
Something a prize twat would say.
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Follow Up By: Batt's - Tuesday, Jun 11, 2019 at 12:14

Tuesday, Jun 11, 2019 at 12:14
Maybe this prize twat knows a bit more than you give him dis-credit for because how to stop dust getting into a canopy on dirt roads after they venture off road with a canopy for the first time is usually the most common asked question sorry for pre-empting a possible future question.

There are lots of people who don't go off road and tarmac warrior is an old term which usually dosn't offend the average intelligent Ozzie. Obviously you have a chip on your shoulder about it opps I used 2 more bits of slang so build a bridge. I noticed you didn't offer advice just here to make an ass out of yourself something your excelled at.
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Follow Up By: qldcamper - Tuesday, Jun 11, 2019 at 19:33

Tuesday, Jun 11, 2019 at 19:33
Yeah whatever
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Wednesday, Jun 12, 2019 at 15:00

Wednesday, Jun 12, 2019 at 15:00
Maybe the relevance was questioned because the original question was about water ingress?
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Follow Up By: Batt's - Wednesday, Jun 12, 2019 at 22:02

Wednesday, Jun 12, 2019 at 22:02
Thanks for smoothing that over Shaker so calling someone a prize twat when you don't understand or bother asking what they mean is the more acceptable approach excellent.
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Wednesday, Jun 12, 2019 at 23:28

Wednesday, Jun 12, 2019 at 23:28
There is never an excuse for personal attacks!
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Follow Up By: qldcamper - Thursday, Jun 13, 2019 at 05:43

Thursday, Jun 13, 2019 at 05:43
Calling someone a tarmac warrior does seem like a personal attack on all of those people that choose not to travel off road just as when I have used the term armchair expert that refers to people that rattle on about subjects they have absolutly no personal experience with, only what they have read and seen in the net, then argue with people that have had formal training and a lifetime of experience in.
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Reply By: Shaker - Wednesday, Jun 12, 2019 at 14:59

Wednesday, Jun 12, 2019 at 14:59
If you haven’t fitted a tailgate seal kit, maybe the water is coming in there.
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Follow Up By: Lloyd M1 - Wednesday, Jun 12, 2019 at 20:29

Wednesday, Jun 12, 2019 at 20:29
Thanks everyone for your suggestions to fix leak much appreciated. Went back to the dealer and they put a seal on tailgate, didn’t leak when tested with hose. True test will be travelling while it is raining because that is what happened after previous attempts to fix original canopy. Never had leaks in ARB canopies on my previous Hilux’s. I love the outback and the gravel roads, take them at every opportunity
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