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Decided to downsize from a twin cab to a single to allow more versatility in setting up the tray for touring and work.

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Reply By: Bob Y. - Qld - Monday, Jun 17, 2019 at 19:41

Monday, Jun 17, 2019 at 19:41
Which one Ivan? The big one, or that little one?

Did you look at the extra cab, or do you prefer the longer tray instead?

Travelled with a mate that had the extended cab Dmax. Lot of room to store "stuff" behind the seats. Anyway, your choice........

Bob.

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Can't remember most of it.

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Follow Up By: IvanTheTerrible - Monday, Jun 17, 2019 at 19:47

Monday, Jun 17, 2019 at 19:47
Space Cab is basically the same price as the twin cab
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Follow Up By: RMD - Monday, Jun 17, 2019 at 20:49

Monday, Jun 17, 2019 at 20:49
Bob
The big one has the extra cab so it must be the smaller unit! Maybe it is just perspective and they are much the same size.
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Follow Up By: IvanTheTerrible - Monday, Jun 17, 2019 at 21:51

Monday, Jun 17, 2019 at 21:51
The big banger is for sale.
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Follow Up By: Member - nickb "boab" - Tuesday, Jun 18, 2019 at 08:14

Tuesday, Jun 18, 2019 at 08:14
I very much like my extra cab style with suicide doors , best setup I've had yet and tray (steel) is only a little shorter than single cab (~ 1 ft )
And still provides some inside storage for those valuables .
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Reply By: RMD - Monday, Jun 17, 2019 at 20:55

Monday, Jun 17, 2019 at 20:55
Ivan.
Great time to fit the aux battery system, LR tank and pre filter and under tray drawer.
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Follow Up By: Ron N - Monday, Jun 17, 2019 at 21:08

Monday, Jun 17, 2019 at 21:08
Great time to fit some decent seats, to replace the very ordinary originals!

Did you get an unbeatable EOFY run-out deal, Ivan?
Over here in the West, the dealers have the longest faces I've seen in a long time.

Even my Toyota dealer dug up my email address from my last deal in Apr 2017, and has started emailing me about the great deals on offer.

There's still a lot of 2018 plated vehicles in the yards, and the dealers are desperate to move them.
The last time I can recall things this bad, was right after the '87 stockmarket crash.
I actually bought a new LN106 Hilux back then, that was 7 mths old, and still languishing in the dealers yard.

If more rain doesn't fall soon, in a lot of areas, there'll be a lot more new vehicles sitting around for a lot longer, too.

Cheers, Ron.
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Follow Up By: IvanTheTerrible - Monday, Jun 17, 2019 at 21:50

Monday, Jun 17, 2019 at 21:50
RMD Aux Battery check but no to the rest. Never seen the sense in wasting money on a pre filter. I know some rave about then but I have never used one and never had a problem. I had one mate hole a plastic aux tank and another broke the mounts at Mt Dare I would rather stick to jerry can and with the amount of tray space I dont need the under tray draws. I am going to fit some very creative tool boxs though




Ron N Seats are actually better than my old model. Anything is better than my first 4X4 in the 80's. As for the runout sales, we had already ordered it before they started. We did get the EOFY deal plus a $1500 gift card but we struggled to get a ute. Had to wait six weeks for one to be available. Seems the dealership (combined Ford/Isuzu) is selling six Dmaxs to each Ranger
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Follow Up By: 9900Eagle - Tuesday, Jun 18, 2019 at 08:04

Tuesday, Jun 18, 2019 at 08:04
Hey Ivan, here are the May 2019 sales figures your dealer must be giving the Dmaxs away.

4x2 utes: Toyota HiLux (1069, 35.7%), Isuzu D-Max (421, 14.1%), Ford Ranger (368, 12.3%)
4x4 utes: Ford Ranger (3604, 25.1%), Toyota HiLux (3137, 21.9%), Holden Colorado (1515, 10.6%)

Then again Kenworths are selling well
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Follow Up By: Ron N - Tuesday, Jun 18, 2019 at 10:06

Tuesday, Jun 18, 2019 at 10:06
There's two simple reasons why Ford Ranger in 4x4 dual cab has taken a sales surge recently.

1. Ford have lots of mark-up to play with, in their pricing. They've recently been giving massive discounts on the RRP to new buyers.

2. Since the cessation of building of Commodore and Falcon utes, the hoons with SS and XR8 utes have been trading them in on dual cab Rangers. The dual cab Ranger XLT is now the vehicle of choice of tradies.

One of the interesting things is that the city "pose brigade" seems to love Ranger XLT's - and now the Raptor, too as well.

You can find any amount of XLT's being used as Mum's shopping trolley to run the kids 2kms to school, and to do the shopping in - but you'll never see those XLT's in the bush, they might get mud on them.

But if you get out on the farms and mines, Hiluxes still rule. The only place that Ranger has cracked into some type of work area is councils, and that's because Ford love fleet deals, and will beat Toyota on price every time on a council deal.

I know this to be true, because I have friends on councils who get to handle the vehicle deals, and they keep telling me how Ford always comes in with the lowest price when vehicle trade-in time comes around, and pricing gets the deal nearly every time on councils.

May 2109 car sales figures - VFACTS

Cheers, Ron.
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Follow Up By: 9900Eagle - Tuesday, Jun 18, 2019 at 11:50

Tuesday, Jun 18, 2019 at 11:50
Ron, I was just pointing out the reported 4 to 1 sales with real figures.

Nothing to do with rangers for hi-luxes. BTW you forgot too mention the Rangers are big with the towing set and I have only seen $1000 off on eofy ranger sales and nothing on Raptors.

The figures I quoted above are correct, showing the true Australian figures fo May 19
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Follow Up By: Ron N - Tuesday, Jun 18, 2019 at 14:24

Tuesday, Jun 18, 2019 at 14:24
Eagle, you can currently grab a 2019 plated 3.2L auto XLT dual cab Ranger for $53990 through Private Fleet - that's $3000 less than the EOFY deals Ford were offering this time, in 2017.

EOFY Ford deals

Cheers, Ron.
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Follow Up By: 9900Eagle - Tuesday, Jun 18, 2019 at 15:18

Tuesday, Jun 18, 2019 at 15:18
Here you go Ron, 2019 eofy lux

Toyota HiLux 4x4 WorkMate double cab $48,975 $6,086* Free ORC + $2,000 worth of genuine accessories.

2019 Dmax top of the range from local dealer. $51990 without haggling.


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Follow Up By: RMD - Tuesday, Jun 18, 2019 at 16:37

Tuesday, Jun 18, 2019 at 16:37
Ivan
I would much rather change a Pre filter than an OE filter out on the roadside.
They are cheaper and simply screw off / on. Bleed of course. Pressurize the tank with the aircompressor and a rag to create some positive flow to bleed.
I use a 50litre red tank for diesel in the tub and in your case it can simply run downhill into the main tank.
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Follow Up By: 9900Eagle - Tuesday, Jun 18, 2019 at 17:47

Tuesday, Jun 18, 2019 at 17:47
RMD
That is exactly why I have a pre fuel filter water trap. If I have to change it on the road I am not introducing any contaminates by changing the oem filter especially with a common rail engine.




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Follow Up By: IvanTheTerrible - Tuesday, Jun 18, 2019 at 20:10

Tuesday, Jun 18, 2019 at 20:10
RMD In all my time in 4x4 I have done a filter swap out of service once and that turned out to be a waste of time. My factory filter is a five minute change. Disconnect two hoses, unclip the housing and remove from vehicle, unscrew top and remove filter. Same for Hilux and Triton I think. Then there is the warranty issues I haven't had to pressurize a tank since my old 80's Lancruiser.
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Follow Up By: Member - nickb "boab" - Thursday, Jun 20, 2019 at 09:05

Thursday, Jun 20, 2019 at 09:05
I think the pre filter theory is like any other precaution you may take in prepping for a outback trip , whilst I have not had any problems either we did come across a person on our Cape York trip that had got crappy fuel from a well-known Roadhouse and luckily enough for him my mate had a filter that he could use ~older model car . And certainly with the modern day diesels you need to be very wary of contaminated fuels ...one of the biggest problems with modern day injection systems .
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Follow Up By: axle - Friday, Jun 21, 2019 at 11:42

Friday, Jun 21, 2019 at 11:42
A water alarm on the pre filter is a good idea as well, otherwise you just suck the rubbish through the system till the thing stops, which renders any additional filter useless.


Cheers Axle.
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Follow Up By: Ron N - Friday, Jun 21, 2019 at 12:50

Friday, Jun 21, 2019 at 12:50
There's no need to pressurise fuel tanks with common rail diesels. The electric fuel pump in the tank supplies plenty of fuel as soon as the ignition is on, and the CR systems are pretty much self-bleeding - unless vast quantities of air have been allowed to enter the fuel system.

The CR system, electric fuel tank pumps, have a higher capacity than the old mechanical injection fuel transfer pumps, because a portion of the high pressure fuel delivered to the CR injectors, is bypassed and allowed to return to the tank, to facilitate the removal of built-up heat from the fuel, caused by pressurising it to extremely high pressures.

This bypassed fuel runs through a fuel cooler to remove the heat from the fuel.
As a result, this constant bypassing of fuel is acting like an air bleed, and it will remove air from the system pretty rapidly.

The old mechanical injectors also had a fuel bypass from the injectors, but it bled very little on average.
In fact, the earliest Cat diesels (1930's) ran the fuel injector bypass line down the side of the engine to the open air, and just let it drip!

In addition, with current diesel fuel systems, you will find ECU's will not allow CR fuel systems to run dry, to protect the CR fuel components from damage.

With CR pressures running at 25,000 to 30,000psi (170 to 200Mpa), and with CR injectors running at half the clearance of mechanical injectors, it's imperative that there's adequate fuel in the high pressure pump and injectors at all times, or serious damage will result very quickly.

Cheer, Ron.
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