Auto Patrol Owners - Group Buy Manual lockup

Submitted: Friday, Jun 18, 2004 at 02:01
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Hope Dave dont mind, but this will save all some $$ (they do cruisers too). Ive told Rodney about this place and check it out to maybe ad here.

Runnin it with the Patrol lists as well.
http://www.automatictransmission.com.au/release.asp?NewsId=12101

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Manuel Control Lock-Up Unit For Nissan Patrol
Rodney Hudson-Davies posted at 15/06/2004

Latest news from Wholesale Automatic Transmissions is our Lock-Up Manuel control unit for all 4 speed Nissan Patrols and Toyota 80 & 100 series Land Cruiser Automatic Transmission Lock-Up convertors. Designed to manually control the Lock-Up convertor in All forward gears including reverse (Toyota Landcruiser Require Extreme Valve Body for 1st and Reverse Lock-Up). Eliminates all convertor slippage and convertor run away on steep down hill descents allowing full engine braking. Will stall engine if not turned off before stoping! Just like not engaging a Manuel clutch before coming to a stop.

Allows for full time Lock-Up in any gear including 3rd when heavy towing eliminating transmission over heating, constant gear changes, constant Lock-Up engagement and disengagement and far greater fuel economy in all of the above circumstances. Cheap and easy to fit, comes complete as a wiring loom, relays and switch that eliminates when Lock-Up is manually activated. Lock-Up convertor reverts back to being ECU ( Computer ) Controlled when Manuel control it turned off.
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We have a good price from Rodney on these.. Let me know, lets see if we can top the lightforce deal I did last time..

Hmmmmmmmm.... if only could get a deal from ARB on Lockers... :(

Anyone interested -> vfr750fv@yahoo.com
Subject Line -> LOCKUP DEAL..
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Reply By: fourstall2000 - Friday, Jun 18, 2004 at 08:14

Friday, Jun 18, 2004 at 08:14
Truckster, several years ago I designed a lock up system for 60 series toyota autos.
This actuated via an air signal and worked really well(also stalled engine if not disengaged on stop).
It had all the benefits that your supplier lists,and I thought I was going to be a millionaire.
Unfortunately however the diff ratios on the standard autos was far to high to provide any real improvement in down hill braking.
What I have found is that the installation of rock crawling gears provides better than manual braking, and turns the auto into the perfect hard core or city slicker truck.
How effective do you think the converter lock will be on this occasion?
Regards
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Friday, Jun 18, 2004 at 11:00

Friday, Jun 18, 2004 at 11:00
Our club editor has this system in his car (GU Ti Petrol 4.5 Auto).

Having spoken to Brian about it, he swears by it... But people dont usually talk down investments do they!

On our last trip up around club property, on hills where I either was on the brakes most of time, or was off the brakes all together doing warp factor 12 in low 1, he didnt touch his brakes once.

For under $200 its worth trying, over $1000+ for rockhoppers.
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Reply By: Billy - Friday, Jun 18, 2004 at 08:44

Friday, Jun 18, 2004 at 08:44
I could be a starter subject to definition of "Cheap and easy to fit"!!

FYI, in the 3.0Di Patrols at least, the dif ratio in the manuals and the autos is the same 4.375 (unlike the 4.8 where the Auto is longer 3.545 vs 4.375).

First gear in the Auto however is only slightly shorter than 2nd in the manual.

Also "All forward gears including reverse" please explain?

Regds

Bill
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Friday, Jun 18, 2004 at 11:16

Friday, Jun 18, 2004 at 11:16
I have few questions for him, I will call this morning and find out :)
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Friday, Jun 18, 2004 at 20:34

Friday, Jun 18, 2004 at 20:34
You can manually activate the Lock-Up in 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th and reverse.
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Follow Up By: Billy - Friday, Jun 18, 2004 at 22:48

Friday, Jun 18, 2004 at 22:48
Yeah, got that, just never realised reverse was a forward gear!

Looking forward to the info.

Thanks & regds

Bill
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Reply By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Friday, Jun 18, 2004 at 11:28

Friday, Jun 18, 2004 at 11:28
Sound very interesting, any further information would be great, truckster.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Friday, Jun 18, 2004 at 20:35

Friday, Jun 18, 2004 at 20:35
Is the Gearbox etc the same in the surf as 80's etc??
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Friday, Jun 18, 2004 at 23:11

Friday, Jun 18, 2004 at 23:11
From Rodney

"And yes we can do the Surf as well.

We have to do a valve body and lock up kit for one. Just looking for the Guinea pig!"
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Reply By: crowie - Saturday, Jun 19, 2004 at 11:14

Saturday, Jun 19, 2004 at 11:14
I'd be interested on the same basis as Billy ie. price and ease of fitting. I have been looking at rockhopper gearing for my ZD30 Patrol auto. mainly for downhill breaking. Just wondering how effective the manual torque converter lockup really is using the existing gear ratios.
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Follow Up By: Puddin (Sydney) - Saturday, Jun 19, 2004 at 14:58

Saturday, Jun 19, 2004 at 14:58
Me to for same vehicle, heaps cheaper than rockhoppers if it works .
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Saturday, Jun 19, 2004 at 23:12

Saturday, Jun 19, 2004 at 23:12
Ok prices.. bit more than I thought..

Lock-Up switch $190 not fitted - comes with instructions

Temp Gauge Kit is $225 or $290 installed - comes with instructions

Extreme Valve Body $795 Not Fitted or $995 fully fitted with
transmission service.

The 80 and 100 series need the Extreme Valve Body to make the
Lock-Up Manual Control Unit to work in 1st and Revearse gears. The Nissans don't need thas but the A442F Toyota Transmissions do!
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Reply By: Member - AndrewPatrol - Saturday, Jun 19, 2004 at 22:18

Saturday, Jun 19, 2004 at 22:18
Truckster,
on a diff subject . Do you still want me to find out any info on the first aid course we did thru the Paj club?
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Saturday, Jun 19, 2004 at 23:08

Saturday, Jun 19, 2004 at 23:08
yea if ya dont mind that would be kewl.

take care
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Saturday, Jun 19, 2004 at 23:17

Saturday, Jun 19, 2004 at 23:17
Ok prices.. bit more than I thought..

Lock-Up switch $190 not fitted - comes with instructions

Temp Gauge Kit is $225 or $290 installed - comes with instructions

Extreme Valve Body $795 Not Fitted or $995 fully fitted with
transmission service.

The 80 and 100 series need the Extreme Valve Body to make the
Lock-Up Manual Control Unit to work in 1st and Revearse gears. The Nissans don't need thas but the A442F Toyota Transmissions do!

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Follow Up By: crowie - Sunday, Jun 20, 2004 at 11:25

Sunday, Jun 20, 2004 at 11:25
Truckster

The photograph on the Wholesale Transmission web sight shows a single unit which I'm presuming is the actual Lock-up switch which does the job. They don't mention any need for a Temperature guage which I guess is to monitor transmission temp but they say using the lock lessens transission heating.

Does this mean that you only need to buy the Lock-up switch unit to get it operational? Temp guage kit sounds a triffle expensive and I'm sure there are other aftermarket ones available at a cheaper price. I guess the expense is in the sensor and where it is located.

Don't have a Cruiser (Patrol ZD30) so don't need the Extreme Valve Body. If I don't need a Temperature guage around $200 doesn't sound too bad.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Sunday, Jun 20, 2004 at 11:33

Sunday, Jun 20, 2004 at 11:33
Hi...

You dont need the other items except for the Cruiser mentioned.

I posted the other items incase people were interested in the cheaper price than retail on them.
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Follow Up By: Zapper - Friday, Jul 02, 2004 at 13:20

Friday, Jul 02, 2004 at 13:20
Truckster

I am going to order one of those units. Just a question about your patrol auto, will it engage into 4th with the power button out? or does it limit it to 3rd. Mine I want to tow at about 90km which is too many RPM in 3rd, its about 2200-2300rpm in 4th before the lock up engages and pulls the revs back down to about 1800 which is too low and the motor is labouring using more fuel etc etc. Basically i want to keep it in 4th at about that 2200 mark thats why I liked the sound of this unit

Thanks....
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Friday, Jul 02, 2004 at 17:10

Friday, Jul 02, 2004 at 17:10
Zapper.
with power button off, it wont go to 4th gear.

Mines auto with 33's, so its round 1200rpm at 90k's... chugging annoyingly...
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Reply By: Puddin (Sydney) - Sunday, Jun 20, 2004 at 13:22

Sunday, Jun 20, 2004 at 13:22
If all I need for the 3.0ltd Patrol is the switch i'll take one at the price to try. Do I email the addy at the bottom of your post to order?
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Sunday, Jun 20, 2004 at 18:06

Sunday, Jun 20, 2004 at 18:06
Yea workin on a deal with the seller, its no big secret who it is, you can even contact them yourself if you have questions.

vfr750fv@yahoo.com

Thinking of trying a lightforce bulk deal again soon too... ;)~
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Follow Up By: Puddin (Sydney) - Sunday, Jun 20, 2004 at 21:03

Sunday, Jun 20, 2004 at 21:03
I shall await further news from you
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