APY lands self quarantines against Corona

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Typical rubbish, that why they go to Marla, Cadney Park and Coober Pedy and down to Port Augusta.

Or are they then going to stop them from going back.

It may be "Ridiculous", but unless everything is stopped both ways nothing can be assured.

Wonder if "outsiders" include medical personal ? :)
Dave

I,m all for it...so long as no-one can enter OR leave...including teachers, medical staff, maintenance contractors, transport drivers, centrelink staff and EVERYONE!!

"FFS. Well I thought I'd read every rediculas Corona story.... until this one."
With a high proportion of elderly and owners with existing conditions it's the safest option as was shown a number of times in the 1918 flu pandemic.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/01/gunnison-colorado-the-town-that-dodged-the-1918-spanish-flu-pandemic
The only thing ridiculous here is ignorance.

I actually think it makes a lot of sense. I am not sure how achievable it will be but the theory is sound. The indigenous peoples are particularly vulnerable to disease due to underlying health issues. Their life expectancy rates are significantly lower than in the non indigenous community as it is without exposing them to Covid19. It could very possibly decimate these communities. If it was possible I would have thought we should also be trying to isolate any communities such as retirement villages, nursing homes, rehabilitation facilities etc. where vulnerable people live. The other aspect that should be considered is the difficulty in treating people in remote areas where there are no significant medical facilities. If they can keep it out they will have done well. I must be missing something though - is there a threat or problem for the non indigenous people if this occurs?

Does that include deliveries of freight? Lets hope they have enough toilet paper!

Finally , problem is that the 'restriction / quarantine' does not go far enough , years and years ago when Gina was but twinkle in her daddy's eye Lang was asked what he would do about the race divide and the ever increasing welfare costs , his idea was simple , "give em how ever many square miles of undeveloped land they want , put a electrified fence around it , no one goes in , no one gets out , NO ONE , nothing goes in , no medicine , no food , no booze , no clothes , no cars , nothing 'metal' , let them live their traditional ways .... Problem ? What problem ?......

That release came out early. It wasn't due out until the first of next month.

Wouldn't be better for people to worry about protecting themselves, than worry about what aboriginals are doing.

Us white fellas have got it sorted, buy heaps of dunny paper and don't drink Corona beer.

The ony reason I can think is behind much of the tripe posted in this forum whenever there is any mention of indigenous folk who want to exercise their rights, regardless of the wisdom or otherwise behind their decision, is quite unpalatable. I appeal to the forum owners to do the right thing & put a stop on the unacceptable racism which is allowed to be expressed here.

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Connie Beadell and Mick Hutton have need to seek many permits each year.
Connie puts it succinctly in the following extract from their website......

"How has it gotten to a point now that seemingly the only reason we as 4WD'ers can travel through certain areas of the western deserts is because of a legal clause allowing travel only on public access roads without a permit? As Mick mentions above a lot of the interesting old tracks & historical features don't fall within this category, let alone trying to follow early explorer routes. Aren't we all Australians, proud of our land and wanting to explore and experience; learn from and about each other first-hand? Is isolating the Aboriginal culture in these areas and alienating those of us who are interested & actually capable of getting into the remote country really the best way?"

The full context of this may be found at Beadell Tours - Permits

"I was notified by a community that they want to close their community to outsiders, they want to have restricted access in place..."

From everything I've gathered over the years, the APY communities have been closed to nearly all outsiders for a long time!

Tourist permits are essentially impossible to obtain. It appears even people on official business have trouble getting in there.

And, as pointed out earlier here, it's only an effective quarantine if no one in the community goes outside and then returns.

This thread ought to be consigned to the garbage bin. It began there and hasn't managed to find its way out since.

Here's the Corona Virus Press Release from APY for those actually interested in facts.

PRESS RELEASE
FOR IMMEDIATE AND URGENT ATTENTION
At its meeting of 25/2/2020 the Executive Board discussed the threat of an epidemic of
coronavirus and made the following resolution:

3) APY Executive Board requires that for the next 3 months applicants need to advise if
they have been visiting countries with coronavirus.

Accordingly and following the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade advice
https://www.smartraveller.gov.au/news-and-updates/coronavirus-covid-19 and Nganampa Health Council advice of 23/2/20, APY requires anyone applying for a permit, or intending to enter the APY Lands under an exemption, to submit a statutory declaration that they:

1. Have not been in mainland China from 1 February 2020, and who on return
to Australia, have self-isolated for 14 days from the time they left mainland
China.
2. Have not been in contact with someone confirmed to have coronavirus and
have self-isolated for 14 days from the time they were in contact with that
person.
3. Have not travelled to China and Iran, South Korea, Japan, Italy, Mongolia and
any other country affected with the coronavirus and do not intend to travel
to these places for the next 6 months.

4. If they are someone covered by (1 - 3), and they have fever or cough
symptoms in the previous 14 days they have been seen by a doctor AND have
had a Negative test for the virus. A copy of the test must be submitted with
the Statutory Declaration

Permits will not be issued, and entry will be refused, to anyone who answers positively to 1-3 above.
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All seems reasonable to me. That said there is no information about how locals travelling outside the areas would be monitored.

Haha, agree, a new setting for crazyness, possibly rivaled by some other of their other scandalous decisions..