Maralinga Tjarutja lands and others open?
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Member - Boobook
I saw something that indicated that the Maralanga Aboriginal Lands ( not the
Maralinga base) are now open, along with a few other areas in SA.
Can anyone confirm that, and know the status of
Yalata lands? There is nothing in the websites.
Reply By: OBJ - Monday, Jul 06, 2020 at 09:29
Monday, Jul 06, 2020 at 09:29
Yep. This is part of an email I received from them:
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Maralinga Tours is opening up once more for you to come and visit. We are looking forward to showing you where the Operation Buffalo tests REALLY happened. If you are being sensible about your covid precautions, you will be most welcome.
The first tour is on the 21st July 2020, and running twice a week until the normal end of season in October. Come and join us in this remote part of the state, where you can see soak up the outback skies.
To make up for lost ground we're appealing to locals to put bums on seats and find out the real story of
Maralinga. Robin Matthews will set you straight.
OBJ
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Follow Up By: Candace S. - Tuesday, Jul 07, 2020 at 14:17
Tuesday, Jul 07, 2020 at 14:17
They've even got a countdown clock on their website, LOL.
https://maralingatours.com.au/
Of course, things are always subject to change these days!
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Reply By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Monday, Jul 06, 2020 at 10:17
Monday, Jul 06, 2020 at 10:17
Hi Tony
All Aboriginals lands over on the West Coast are still closed to the general public, as all that land falls within the Bio security area for aboriginal people to keep them free from COVID 19.
Even the Head of the Bight Whale Watching Centre is still closed, as it is on Aboriginal Land.
I have only just been speaking with the
Ceduna Visitor Information Centre, and they confirmed that ALL aboriginal land over that way is closed. The Whale Watching Centre has now signed off, and are now waiting for approval to open from the Federal Government o in in
Canberra, and at this stage, will not have an answer until the 10th July.
So in. Nutshell, all aboriginal land over there is still closed
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Follow Up By: Member - Boobook - Monday, Jul 06, 2020 at 11:27
Monday, Jul 06, 2020 at 11:27
Hmm, that is conflicting with the SA government Website on access Stephen.
I read that
Maralinga is open but
Yalata is still closed.
I'll check again.
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Follow Up By: Member - Boobook - Monday, Jul 06, 2020 at 11:31
Monday, Jul 06, 2020 at 11:31
Stephen this says they are open and why I am asking.
https://www.covid-19.sa.gov.au/restrictions-and-responsibilities/restrictions-on-movement-into-aboriginal-communities2
As a consequence of amendments to the Determination, the following South Australian communities are no longer designated areas: Yarilena (near
Ceduna), Dunjiba (near
Oodnadatta), Davenport (near
Port Augusta),
Maralinga Tjarutja (MT) Lands, Nepabunna (
Flinders Ranges), and Point Pearce (
Yorke Peninsula).
Currently, restrictions apply to areas on which the following communities are located:
Anangu Pitjantjatjara Yankunytjatjara (APY) Lands
Gerard (Riverland)
Yalata (Far West Coast)
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Follow Up By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Monday, Jul 06, 2020 at 14:27
Monday, Jul 06, 2020 at 14:27
Hi Tony
I am only going by what has been said on the TV and from the
Ceduna VIC this morning.
As I said people truing to get to the Whale Watching Centre have been fines and Police have warned not to try to get there...or else
See what happens in another 5 days
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Follow Up By: Life Member - Duncan W (WA) - Monday, Jul 06, 2020 at 14:51
Monday, Jul 06, 2020 at 14:51
Maybe it's open because you are under supervision while there and you just can't rock up and hope for the best and it's all fenced.
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Follow Up By: Member - Boobook - Monday, Jul 06, 2020 at 16:07
Monday, Jul 06, 2020 at 16:07
So I called the
Maralinga community.
You are correct Stephen. The
Maralinga community is no longer a designated area. Basically that means they have the say in when people can visit, not the government, but for now they are still closed.
They are reviewing it in light of the Victoria situation today and may stay locked down for longer. Same for the tour area.
Thanks
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Reply By: Peter_n_Margaret - Monday, Jul 06, 2020 at 19:18
Monday, Jul 06, 2020 at 19:18
Do not confuse "
Maralinga Tjarutja Lands" and "
Maralinga community".
Oak Valley (which itself is a closed community) is the largest community in the
Maralinga Tjarutja Lands, by far.
Cheers,
Peter
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Follow Up By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Monday, Jul 06, 2020 at 19:45
Monday, Jul 06, 2020 at 19:45
Hi Peter, not quite sure where you got that information from.
According to the 2016 census,
Oak Valley had a
population of only 128 people, compared to
Yalata that had a
population of 248 and around 200 living in
Tjuntjuntjara.
When we went through those communities, it was always acknowledged that
Oak Valley was the smallest community, while
Tjuntjuntjara was the most remote, just over the border in Western Australia
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Follow Up By: Allan B (Sunshine Coast) - Monday, Jul 06, 2020 at 20:21
Monday, Jul 06, 2020 at 20:21
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Where is the "
Maralinga Community"?
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Follow Up By: Phil G - Monday, Jul 06, 2020 at 20:37
Monday, Jul 06, 2020 at 20:37
Populations vary by the week or month! Very nomadic out there
Maralinga (township) is a tourist operation and have one set of rules and
Maralinga Tjartutja Lands is the community governing the vast area to the WA border.
To travel anywhere in the
Maralinga Tjarutja Lands it is best to phone their office in
Ceduna and ask.
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Follow Up By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Monday, Jul 06, 2020 at 22:03
Monday, Jul 06, 2020 at 22:03
Not sure why you think
Yalata and
Tjuntjuntjara are not part of the
Maralinga Tjarutja Lands.
Aboriginal tribal grounds do not follow state and
park boundaries.
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Follow Up By: Peter_n_Margaret - Monday, Jul 06, 2020 at 22:24
Monday, Jul 06, 2020 at 22:24
Legislated boundaries don't follow tribal grounds either and
Maralinga Tjarutja Lands is the legal description of an area which is bounded in part by the WA border, Mumungari NP, the SA/NT border, etc, etc.
Those who control the
Maralinga Tjarutja Lands don't control
Yalata, for instance, or am I wrong there?
Cheers,
Peter
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Follow Up By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Monday, Jul 06, 2020 at 22:31
Monday, Jul 06, 2020 at 22:31
The
Maralinga Tjartutja lands are all controlled from their only office out of
Ceduna and they control all the lands, which does include
Yalata.
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Follow Up By: Peter_n_Margaret - Monday, Jul 06, 2020 at 23:47
Monday, Jul 06, 2020 at 23:47
More ....
https://landscape.sa.gov.au/aw/visiting/our-communities
"
Maralinga Tjarutja Lands
The
Maralinga Tjarutja (MT) community has a
population of about 100 people in 20 families, with many more during cultural activities. They live mainly in
Oak Valley, which was originally started as a
camp when a group of traditional owners returned to their lands after they were handed back under legislation. The MT community leases the MT Lands, totalling over 100,000 square kilometres, through arrangements under the Aboriginal Lands Trust Act 1966. Today, the MT Lands are governed at the local level by MT Council, whose members are elected from the community."
Cheers,
Peter
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Follow Up By: Peter_n_Margaret - Tuesday, Jul 07, 2020 at 09:30
Tuesday, Jul 07, 2020 at 09:30
By the way, if you need to enter
Yalata land, contact Alessano Madonna,
Yalata Land Management, lanman.
yalata@bigpond.com. I have found that he provides an efficient and timely response.
Tjuntjuntjara Community web site is here...
https://www.spinifex.org.au/ There is no mention of MT Lands.
MT Lands web site is here....
http://www.maralingatjarutja.com/default.htm There is no mention of
Tjuntjuntjara except being a community across the border to the west, and
Yalata is a community to the south. There is no suggestion that either is controlled from the MT office in
Ceduna.
Cheers,
Peter
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