Stuff to take on an off road lap
Submitted: Wednesday, Sep 30, 2020 at 00:10
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Keith B2
We are leaving soon for a clockwise lap ex
Sydney, as soon as the borders are open and I am wondering what recovery gear to take and what to leave at
home, as I like to be self reliant. We have the usual spares and
tools and a spare tyre for each axle. We will be towing a genuine off road van I built myself (2.5 tonnes loaded with 400 litre of water and the same width and track as the tow) with a lifted and locked 200 Series with 33s and small GVM upgrade. We will be travelling solo.
We won't be doing any silly tuff truck stuff or any extremely isolated tracks, but will carry a satphone anyway and have a long range fuel tank. I have a garage full of recovery gear and am wondering
what to take, as overloading might be an issue.
On Board Winch: Yes
Collection of straps and shackles plus snatch block: Yes
Long handled shovel: Yes
Four Max Trax: Yes
Spare hydraulic jack: Yes
Compressor: Yes
Odd bits of wood: Yes
Dunno about:
Extra Jerry cans?
Electric chain saw?
4.5 tonne air bag jack?
Sand anchor?
Snig chain?
Off road chains for rear wheels if it gets muddy?
Any advice would be appreciated.
Keith
Reply By: Alan H11 - Wednesday, Sep 30, 2020 at 04:46
Wednesday, Sep 30, 2020 at 04:46
Extra Jerry cans? - with a long range tank I don't think so. Calculate your range and work with a 100 Km safety factor. If you find yourself starting a trajectory which will require more than you carry, buy extra cans, use the fuel in them as soon as possible, and give the cans away once you no longer need them.
Electric chain saw? - in 53 years I have needed to deal with fallen trees across the track on only three occasions - we carry a machete and a wire saw and these are all we need. Once we would have been incapable of continuing but another group were sorting out the tree with a chain saw.
4.5 tonne air bag jack? - we had one in Africa on a "big trip" - never needed it, they're bulky and fairly heavy - I wouldn't bother.
Sand anchor? - if you ever need one, dig a hole and put a spare wheel in it.
Snig chain? - Never heard of this. We've covered a lot of Km in a lot of the world and so we've never needed one (whatever it is).
Off road chains for rear wheels if it gets muddy? - heavy, bulky, a pain to put on and off. Plan your trip so that you avoid "muddy season", if you find yourself approaching serious mud, think hard about whether you want to tackle it. Only once (Eastern Uganda in Wet Season) were we in a situation where chains might have helped, and we got through without extreme effort.
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Reply By: Member - McLaren3030 - Wednesday, Sep 30, 2020 at 08:05
Wednesday, Sep 30, 2020 at 08:05
Hi Kieth B2,
Even with your long range fuel tank, I would consider taking one empty plastic Gerry Can. You need to work out your fuel stops for your itinerary, and if you find that you have a particularly long stretch that might see you at or near your fuel range, you can fill it for a “safety” margin.
Electric Chainsaw yes. You might not want it to clear trees from a track, but if you decide you want a
camp fire, then it will be useful. If it is a Makita, then you can buy a battery charger that plugs into a cigarette lighter socket that will charge your 18 volt batteries.
As for the rest, I would say no. However, I would consider an extra set (2 of) Max Trax for the van. If you strike heavy sand/bull dust on any of the outback roads, a set under each axle including the van will make recovery that much easier.
The other thing I might mention is are you set on a “clockwise” direction? Crossing the Nullarbor, the prevailing wind direction is generally from the west, which means you will be heading into a head wind. An “anticlockwise “ route might be less expensive on fuel, just a thought.
Macca.
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Follow Up By: Alan H11 - Wednesday, Sep 30, 2020 at 08:58
Wednesday, Sep 30, 2020 at 08:58
re clockwise versus anticlockwise, you'll recall that anticlockwise is shorter as
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Follow Up By: Allan B (Sunshine Coast) - Wednesday, Sep 30, 2020 at 13:26
Wednesday, Sep 30, 2020 at 13:26
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But only about 3 metres shorter in 14,500 km!!!!!
Sorry, that should read 30 metres.
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Reply By: Mark C9 - Thursday, Oct 01, 2020 at 10:13
Thursday, Oct 01, 2020 at 10:13
400 l water? Is a huge amount of weight to lug around. I set up in the bush and use 3 x 25l water containers to top up the tanks.
Learn to minimise and reuse water
No on the fuel jerry cans if you have long range tanks
Yes on the chain saw. I assume you will be
bush camping (self reliant) so you will get sick of using a bow saw to collect wood. I used to snig the larger logs to site
Forget the mud chains
Forget the air bags - I carried air bags on the 1st trip. They work
well in the garage at
home but blew out when I bogged out on a beach due to the suction
Odd bits of wood? Assume to slip under the jacks? Tell us more.
Weight is your enemy
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Follow Up By: Keith B2 - Thursday, Oct 01, 2020 at 12:24
Thursday, Oct 01, 2020 at 12:24
I like to carry bits of 30x70x300 mm coated construction softwood to put under corner jacks and slide-out jacks. Or for use when jacking up a vehicle. You can criss-cross stack them for heavy weights. They don't weigh much and come in very handy. For jacking up in really soft stuff, I'd use them on top of a couple of Max Trax. So I guess that also answers the air bag question.
I am still wondering about the rear wheel chains. On greasy ground with the rear diff locked the traction becomes incredible and can minimise jacknife oversteer if caught out in really muddy conditions. They stack in easily between the drawers and the wheel arch, so take up very little usable space. I originally bought them for high country travel towing a camper trailer but have never had them out of the bag.
I should put the loaded rig over a weigh
bridge to see how close we are to the limit for the tow. The van has a 1,000kg rated payload and only 7.5% ball wight.
Keith
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Follow Up By: Member - nickb "boab" - Thursday, Oct 01, 2020 at 15:15
Thursday, Oct 01, 2020 at 15:15
Agree : 400 litres is huge weight ..plenty of water around the country .
air bag jacks are hard to use but have huge lift & don't weigh much .. i like the high lift jack but weigh a lot .
battery chainsaw are great .. stealth , no smell , lite . Chains are too much weight aswel
treads for sure once again weigh very little & are very handy for a lot of things like jacking etc
i do carry an extra jerry >empty . one good hydraulic jack .
lay everything out on your shed floor & start culling . sure these items are handy but the chance that you will need them is most likely low speaking for my experience .
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Reply By: Mark C9 - Sunday, Oct 04, 2020 at 11:26
Sunday, Oct 04, 2020 at 11:26
I too carried a hilift jack for years. I used to do some heavy duty off roading. I found it invaluable to raise the vehicle so I could stack logs etc under the wheel.
I can say they can be dangerous if you try to lift too high in one go.
I use TJM bullbars with the T section cutout for jacks.
It got me outr of many sticky situations.
You can get an attachment that goes on the hub that allows you to lift the wheel. Cant change tyres like that but they are good
I don’t carry one any more because I don’t do the rugged offroad stuff anymore
I would say leave it behind
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