Prado help- Battery and Bull Bar
Submitted: Saturday, Nov 28, 2020 at 15:09
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Member - lyndon NT
Hi All
My nephew has just bought a Prado 2014 3L turbo GX. He is looking at fitting a steel bull bar and extra battery. He is keen for the battery to go under the bonnet, I have explained this will kill an AGM (had my own personal experience with that),but is there another type of battery technology that may fair better under the bonnet? Note, he doesn't want to spend a grand or more on a Lithium battery. Battery will be used to run accessories and double as a backup start battery. It will be charged via a Dc to DC charger.
On another note, does anyone know the output voltage from the alternator on this model?
On the Bull Bar. Car has standard
suspension, bar would be around 70kg give or take 10kg. Has anyone had experience with putting that weight up front on a Prado with factory
suspension?
Thanks for your help.
Cheers
Lyndon
Reply By: HKB Electronics - Saturday, Nov 28, 2020 at 15:40
Saturday, Nov 28, 2020 at 15:40
Alternator output of that model is around 13.6-14V@24C ambient and hot engine bay. Fitting a booster diode will bring the voltage upto normal charge voltages and a DCDC would then not be required.
You could put an Century Marine Pro, Dual force or an Optima. Optima have a Euro type battery that is similar size to the N70Z.
Toyota probably fitted alloy bars as standard, with the steel you would get more droop, alloy bars move around a lot, I would image steel would put more load on the chassis.
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Reply By: Member - bbuzz (NSW) - Saturday, Nov 28, 2020 at 17:33
Saturday, Nov 28, 2020 at 17:33
I have a 2008 KDJ with battery on the rhs under the bonnet. Century.
Used an old Landcruiser battery box for the second battery, which fits in snugly. Had it for 10 years. Used the diode suggested in the other reply. Get 14.2 v across both batteries from the alternator.
I also have a steel bullbar. Same period of time.
I put standard height Lovell springs under the old girl; same time period. And Levell gas shocks.
Touch wood, everything going
well.
bill

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Reply By: wooly0005 - Saturday, Nov 28, 2020 at 17:43
Saturday, Nov 28, 2020 at 17:43
Hi Lyndon,
I don't see the need to over complicate things myself.
Whats wrong with the old lead/acid Century or similar for a second battery with an isolator that has the momentary switch so the batteries can be joined together to start the engine if need be?
Cheap to set up and unless you are driving a space shuttle, more than enough power for a fridge and some lights.
No doubt a steel bar will be a bit weighty but not much you can do about that.
A couple of 10mm spacers will give you some height back for not much outlay. Superior Engineering do them for about 80-100 bucks I think?
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Reply By: Hoyks - Sunday, Nov 29, 2020 at 09:51
Sunday, Nov 29, 2020 at 09:51
Whatever the starter battery is, just get another one of those? I got away with doing that for years. New battery into the starter slot, old battery into the AUX slot and dead AUX into the recyclers. I'd get around 4-5 years out of each battery.
He could also bend up a heat shield to go around the back side of the battery to keep the temps down a bit. Only needs to be an L shape and it gets some ventilation from the front, but protects from radiant heat from the motor.
I put a steel bar on my ute and it was pretty ordinary to drive, diving under braking and hitting the stops on dips in the road.
A battery and a bar and you're looking at close to 100+kg extra up there. Springs are cheap ($200/pr) and will carry the load better and safer. If on a budget, then he can probably get away with the current shocks, provided they haven't been flogged to death.
It might be worth also looking at the max axle loading for the vehicle before adding all the gear. In my ute with a steel bar, winch and my 100kg in the front
seat I have 10kg to spare. The 2nd battery goes in the tray.
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Follow Up By: HKB Electronics - Tuesday, Dec 01, 2020 at 08:54
Tuesday, Dec 01, 2020 at 08:54
Yep, if you want it to be legal
check the weights, I have a genuine Toyota alloy bar and winch on my 120 and the front axle weight is over the max specified by Toyota!
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