Long Range Fuel Tank

Submitted: Monday, Feb 01, 2021 at 16:51
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I am interested in replacing the fuel tank in my X350d Mercedes Benz ute.
I can only find two suppliers, Outback Accessories and Brown Davis.
Would anyone like to offer an opinion on which is the better one.

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Reply By: Tomdej - Monday, Feb 01, 2021 at 18:12

Monday, Feb 01, 2021 at 18:12
I don't have any experience with Outback Accessories but I do have a Brown Davis Long Range Tank.

I had a problem with a Brown Davis Tank after about 18 months. Their resolution of the problem, supplying a replacement tank and paying for the fitting was excellent.

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Follow Up By: The Explorer - Monday, Feb 01, 2021 at 19:04

Monday, Feb 01, 2021 at 19:04
Hello

I have had a BD tank in my Prado for about 18 months also - no issues so far - was wondering what was your problem?

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Follow Up By: Frank P (NSW) - Monday, Feb 01, 2021 at 22:38

Monday, Feb 01, 2021 at 22:38
I have a BD steel tank on my BT50, fitted at the Melbourne factory. It developed a crack on the bottom, a year out of warranty, at a point where one of the internal baffles is welded to the floor.

I'm in Sydney, they're in Melbourne.

They were prepared to give me a replacement plastic tank at a discount if I could get to Melbourne but a trip to Melb and back at my expense wasn't a reasonable proposition. I had to get it repaired at an engineering shop that is also a BD fitter. BD weren't prepared to assist with the cost of that. Warranty ends when warranty ends, they said.

Nothing much I could do about but suck it up.
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Follow Up By: Tomdej - Monday, Feb 01, 2021 at 22:59

Monday, Feb 01, 2021 at 22:59
My problem with my Brown Davis tank was a leaky weld, outside of warranty.

They were extremely helpful and fixed it at no cost to me. They are in Melbourne and I am in Canberra.
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Follow Up By: Member - John - Tuesday, Feb 02, 2021 at 05:09

Tuesday, Feb 02, 2021 at 05:09
same problem, two extremely different results, wonder why?
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Follow Up By: David I1 - Tuesday, Feb 09, 2021 at 07:11

Tuesday, Feb 09, 2021 at 07:11
When I owned X240 Great Wall I wanted to fit a long range tank. BD would make on but it would have cost over $1000 all fitted. I found this company in Geelong Ballistic Engineering. He makes fuel tanks for Boats etc. I have a link to the post I did :
https://4x4earth.com/forum/index.php?threads/long-range-tank-manufacturer-in-geelong.35914/

Might worth a phone call
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Reply By: Idler Chris - Wednesday, Feb 03, 2021 at 11:33

Wednesday, Feb 03, 2021 at 11:33
A LR tank will never fail in the garage or on a sealed road. They fail when you are outback in the middle of nowhere and most in need of the fuel. Could even be like threating. I would only ever have a plastic tank as they are one piece, no welds, and considerably stronger. I have a D-Max with a 135 litre plastic tank and it has been scraped over rocks etc numerous times and still looks good. Welding and corrugations do not mix.
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Follow Up By: RMD - Wednesday, Feb 03, 2021 at 12:18

Wednesday, Feb 03, 2021 at 12:18
Hello Chris
By the look of the oil stain and it's position just outer of the spring pad, it appears you may have a crack in the axle tube itself. If so, it happens just outside the spring pad. I can't message you so posted here. That area cam be reinforced by wedge shaped plating after to spread the load after the crack is rewelded. A few have cracked after loaded rough off road travel.
Is there another reason why oil staining is there?
If the axle tube breaks then it becomes a tad more serious from observation of other similar unusual leaks. Finding the broken axle shaft and wheel is fun in the bush.
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Follow Up By: Idler Chris - Wednesday, Feb 03, 2021 at 15:19

Wednesday, Feb 03, 2021 at 15:19
Thanks mydmax. I left home in May last year for my annual get out of the Melbourne cold. Because of covid restrictions I was away longer than usual and only got home 2 weeks before Christmas. I have access to other cars so do not use the D-max much when I am home. The D-max is due for a service by Isuzu after which I always take it to my 4X4 specialist where we check everything over and prepare it for the next trip. That was good spotting from the photo and I agree with you that it very much looks like the axle tube is cracked. This is not uncommon on D-Max's. I am aware of this issue and have seen it before on other D-Max's, and as I can get to about 3.4 tonne when fully loaded (Lovells GVM upgrade) it is not surprising that this has happened. I will throw a bit of money at the problem and I am sure the D-Max will be as good as gold.
Thanks again.

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Follow Up By: RMD - Wednesday, Feb 03, 2021 at 15:27

Wednesday, Feb 03, 2021 at 15:27
Chris
That is really good you are aware and onto it, hope all goes well with the fix.
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Follow Up By: axle - Sunday, Feb 07, 2021 at 12:02

Sunday, Feb 07, 2021 at 12:02
Is repairing that side a long time fix? what about the other side,? Carrying the weight mentioned would have me thinking about upgrading the housings, or carry less weight, or buy a bigger truck!...lol.

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Follow Up By: RMD - Sunday, Feb 07, 2021 at 13:02

Sunday, Feb 07, 2021 at 13:02
AXLE
Done properly, two tapered wedge fillers at the top extending from spring pad to outer housing and also applying a half tube underneath and through the U bolt area, welded to the original axle housing IS an upgrade.
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Follow Up By: Frank P (NSW) - Sunday, Feb 07, 2021 at 13:18

Sunday, Feb 07, 2021 at 13:18
I'm in a similar position as Chris WRT my BT50 - upgraded to 3500kg. A small crack appeared in the horizontal seam in the axle tube near the circular weld on the rear of the diff housing.

Took it to an axle and diff specialist - he builds axle housings and diffs for competition off-roaders. Attached is his bracing, done both sides, plus there was a circular weld inside that was basically little more than tack welded. He welded that right around.
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Follow Up By: axle - Sunday, Feb 07, 2021 at 14:54

Sunday, Feb 07, 2021 at 14:54
RMD

Buy something thats built for the purpose you require, Not a upgrade at all , it will keep busting at the weakest points everytime.

After years around earthmoving equipment, you get to learn.

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Follow Up By: RMD - Sunday, Feb 07, 2021 at 15:08

Sunday, Feb 07, 2021 at 15:08
Axle,
Yes you can buy something much much heavier and earthmoving equipment is generally heavy by design. Franks repair/mod is neat and spreads loads sensibly, very similar to outer axle mods where cracks happen. Often it is the actual welds which are slightly undercut which allows a crack to develop. Often seen in mass production. Why not simply repair it as it, was/is, almost ok for the purpose but not quite. Buying something else would be far greater cost, not a problem for some though. If there is a formula for people to apply to enable buying something unbreakeable then that would be good to see.
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Follow Up By: axle - Sunday, Feb 07, 2021 at 16:21

Sunday, Feb 07, 2021 at 16:21
RMD

It depends how much repairing your prepared to do, OK if the problem doesn't reoccur, if it does there's nothing more painful,. its then most people look for a alternative.

Really it just gets down to over loading Woes.....AGAIN.
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Anyway this conversation could go on forever and dont forget Toyota have the formula for the unbreakable!
; ))))))
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Follow Up By: Idler Chris - Tuesday, Feb 09, 2021 at 15:50

Tuesday, Feb 09, 2021 at 15:50
Hi RMD. I have seen other D-maxes with this issue but do not know what the owners did about it. I believe its caused by bad corrugations and big pot holes when the axle hits the bump stop. I have searched the various forums for solutions and preferably pictures with no luck. Do you have any pictures or more detailed instructions?
I try to keep the weight down, but I am usually travelling for 4 or 5 months each year (7 months in 2020) so it is not easy. As for getting a bigger vehicle, I like the D-Max to much to give it up.
If you have any pictures etc. you can post here or email me. My email address can be accessed from my profile. Cheers, Chris
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Follow Up By: Bob Y. - Qld - Monday, Mar 01, 2021 at 19:17

Monday, Mar 01, 2021 at 19:17
We were pulled up for dinner & some repairs to one of my companions canopy, at Well 9 on CSR, back in late July, ‘19, when a 4x4 tilt tray came past with a Dmax on the back & missing a near side rear wheel assembly. The snapped axle housing was immediately apparent.

Then, some weeks/months later, there was a thread about the owner’s woes on his trip & some follow up info.
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Reply By: Bob Y. - Qld - Tuesday, Feb 09, 2021 at 13:39

Tuesday, Feb 09, 2021 at 13:39
In the early 80’s, we had a Hilux twin cab 2.4L diesel, and living remote we needed more than the 60 or so litre fuel tank. We got a bloke in Alice Springs to make us a tank of over 80L that fitted between the mudguards in the tub. Worked well, using gravity supply into the original tank. As a bit of trivia, all dealing with the fabricator, Don Spears, was via snail mail, and no doubt a cheque as payment.

Just a thought on aux fuel tanks, there’s lot of expense involved for any after market tank, and unless one gets a significant volume increase, it’s probably better to just carry 1-3 jerrycans, if the storage room is available.

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Follow Up By: RMD - Tuesday, Feb 09, 2021 at 16:31

Tuesday, Feb 09, 2021 at 16:31
I use a 50Litre red plastic tank in a similar place to what Bob used. Don't need it every travel distance and have a Car fuel injection pump and diesel filter to get fuel out of the tub and into the filler via a hose. That hose is long enough to deliver to another vehicle if required or to top up Cvan diesel heater tank. Far cheaper alternative and it can be removed when not needed.
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Follow Up By: Bob Y. - Qld - Monday, Mar 01, 2021 at 19:35

Monday, Mar 01, 2021 at 19:35
Poly tanks are a good option, and I’ve got a couple of poly diesel tanks(and an 80L water tank) from Enmach Industries in Bundaberg. Their range of tanks appears to have been reduced lately, but I understand they do custom tanks as well.

View their range on website here. Also available on eBay at their site called Ballistic4x4.

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Reply By: Dean K3 - Monday, Mar 01, 2021 at 18:16

Monday, Mar 01, 2021 at 18:16
For $$ a additional ute tray fitted tank is more cost effective from boab downside is they only have 40l capacity

a better option and similar costing ($400 odd) comes from trailer parts direct 75 l capacity

i have seen one boab tank mounted above cab of a single ute with a trades tool box (full length) with line plumbed directly into main filler line just opened up safety tap and fill it up gravity wise
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