Persisent list to the left on my 2019 Ranger - is it a problem?
Submitted: Friday, Feb 12, 2021 at 15:10
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Member - Phil 'n Jill (WA)
My 2019 Mklll XLS
ranger has a list to the left side varying from 20 to 30 mm at the wheel arches, depending on how much fuel is loaded, but Ford claim the vehicle is within specifications.
It has been suggested
the springs may be on the wrong sides, but I am told the left and right rear springs are the same so that line of enquiry seems to be ruled out. I am at a loss for my next move.
Does anyone have any suggestions please?
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Ranger forum... Cheers, Phil
Reply By: RMD - Friday, Feb 12, 2021 at 16:37
Friday, Feb 12, 2021 at 16:37
G'day Phil,
While many D40 Navaras were supplied NEW, (courtesy of Nissan), with a 20mm to 25mm + RH rear drop at the wheel arch, haven't seen Rangers doing it.
Is it both ends? ie lower on same side both front and rear? OR just the rear?
If front, there maybe an upper cushion spacer above the spring which is missing.
If rear, which would also affect front to some degree, one of the spring leaves may be cracked through in the spring seat/pad area and not easily seen, and definitely not looked for by a dealer. That would decrease the hold height but not be particularly noticed. A good LED torch might be good to use to see. LED torches allow detection of things not seen by older torches.
Ask the dealer to show you that particular specification where a noticeable list to one side is acceptable. Just don't take their spoken word for it EVER.
Was it always like it because some chassis have a twist in them although made on a jig.
Does the vehicle steer to one side, because that amount of difference will affect the steering dynamics to some degree. ie pulls/floats one way?
I presume you have allowed for any load items you have added.
Cheers
RMD
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil 'n Jill (WA) - Friday, Feb 12, 2021 at 20:06
Friday, Feb 12, 2021 at 20:06
Thanks RMD
I have a choice of LED lamps – I shall investigate with the ‘Cree’.
The front is out slightly, no where near the rear list and I have plonked considerable weight on the right side to compensate for the only weight on the lleft side of the tray – the 2nd battery – with NIL effect.
The dealer will not show me the specification they quote – ‘speak to Ford’ is the response. The Ford contact won’t provide it either – getting any response is like pulling teeth, when I ask for written confirmation of any response by phone I am told it will need to be cleared by the legal team first so it could take a couple of days. Correspondence is negligible.
My plan at this stage is to just keep chipping away – I started this at the 30K service about September.
Cheers - Phil
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Follow Up By: RMD - Friday, Feb 12, 2021 at 22:20
Friday, Feb 12, 2021 at 22:20
Phil,
Pretty clear Ford isn't going to tell the truth about the claimed specs not being exceeded. Makes you wonder what they have to hide. Having to get legal team approval just for a decent reply, smacks of avoidance to a high degree. Aren't dealers supposed to be your friend?
well they are when buying but afterwards, perhaps not.
Just a thought, the chassis may be malformed if the lower corner was present when new, perhaps not noticed at purchase time though. If happening afterwards then points to springs not doing the job. The Navaras I spoke of had a malformed chassis from factory, known by Nissan but many many sold throughout OZ. If made twisted then it becomes a warranty issue. Some serious investigation is required to find /prove that if it is the issue.
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil 'n Jill (WA) - Saturday, Feb 13, 2021 at 01:08
Saturday, Feb 13, 2021 at 01:08
Thanks again RMD
If need be I will book it into a licensing outfit nearby and ask their opinion as I have dealt with them previously with a caravan upgraded load rating and they seem to know their vehicle issues.
Main issue I have at present is that whilst the lean is obvious to me and I have seen others on the road (all makes), but that could be their load, I am wondering whether the 20 - 30mm variance is a concern.
It looks a bit like my old Landrover with two drums of fuel and a pallet of cement on the back, but my steering isn't as light :O))
Cheers - Phil
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Reply By: Member - Jim S1 - Sunday, Feb 14, 2021 at 09:31
Sunday, Feb 14, 2021 at 09:31
Mate, when you sit back and relax, it's a truck, not a Rolls Royce. I think
mine is slightly out of the perfect horizontal as
well. Had new springs and shocks fitted and that's how it ended up. Just a little bit, and I'm probably the only one that notices. Just decided it wasn't worth worrying about. Certainly doesn't seem to affect anything.
Cheers
Jim
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Reply By: workhorse - Monday, Mar 08, 2021 at 21:53
Monday, Mar 08, 2021 at 21:53
Have a 2018 single cab
Ranger.
Previous owner had a big slide on camper with standard
suspension.
It had the same lean to the left
Had an Ironman foam cell pro with medium front springs and 500kg rears fitted
Still had the lean so we had to do quite some adjustments to level it, or within 15ml. Was told they do not have left and right side springs as in the old days
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil 'n Jill (WA) - Tuesday, Mar 09, 2021 at 00:14
Tuesday, Mar 09, 2021 at 00:14
Thanks workhorse - that puts paid to that specific line of inquiry.
I Haven't progressed any further as the vehicle hasn't gone over any further than the two inches it listed during the week away over Xmas, but that was rather alarming I thought.
I know it is 'just a truck' - but it is a relative new 'truck' and after owning a string of like vehicles over the past fifty years I am not impressed. Many past units have been fairly hard pressed in their working life but never appeared as 'unstable' as this one. Perhaps I should be thankful...?
Happy motoring - Cheers - Phil
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