Caravan convoys

Submitted: Tuesday, May 18, 2021 at 09:44
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I was talking to a visitor to Kakadu yesterday, he was telling me that from Alice to Darwin he came across several caravan convoys trudging along without a car in the world with no gap to over take. One of these groups had 9 caravans.

There are a lot of vans on the road this year, it's probably a timely reminder to be considerate on the road when travelling in a convoy. This bloke felt like screaming at a few people.
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Reply By: RMD - Tuesday, May 18, 2021 at 09:55

Tuesday, May 18, 2021 at 09:55
Steve,
That is not unusual and truckies do it too. Returning from Adelaide a while back I caught up with a truck on a straight stretch. Went to overtake and found two semi's, then 7, B doubles nose to tail with less than a caravan length between any of them. YES, 9 interstate vehicles all in a row. all driven by professional drivers, 9 must be the magic number.
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Reply By: Notso - Tuesday, May 18, 2021 at 09:57

Tuesday, May 18, 2021 at 09:57
Yep, as a former rally coordinator for our club, our members were under strict instructions to maintain a 500 metre gap whilst on the highway.

If we had more than 4 or 5 vans we'd split into groups and depart 20 minutes apart heading to the next destination.
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Reply By: Allan B (Sunshine Coast) - Tuesday, May 18, 2021 at 09:59

Tuesday, May 18, 2021 at 09:59
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Steve, I'm afraid that some people take the view that "I'm not breaking any road rules so I'll drive as I like".
Alas, that is part of 'living in a society'.
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Follow Up By: RMD - Tuesday, May 18, 2021 at 14:04

Tuesday, May 18, 2021 at 14:04
Allan,
When you drive with your van and follow so close behind another van, you can't see if there is another 5 rigs in front of the one who is in your way and they seem happy to stay that way. They are breaking road rules really! Awareness, is lacking in many, not simply a drive as I like attitude.
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Follow Up By: Member - David M (SA) - Tuesday, May 18, 2021 at 14:13

Tuesday, May 18, 2021 at 14:13
"I'm not breaking any road rules so I'll drive as I like".
Better than, " I am breaking the road rules because I drive as I like"
Dave. :)
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Follow Up By: Allan B (Sunshine Coast) - Tuesday, May 18, 2021 at 14:32

Tuesday, May 18, 2021 at 14:32
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Yes. Thank you.
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Reply By: Mikee5 - Tuesday, May 18, 2021 at 10:50

Tuesday, May 18, 2021 at 10:50
Not many people know theserules, from Qld Dept of Transport website today, direct copy and paste:
Rules for heavy vehicles
There are some general road rules in Queensland affecting the use of heavy and long vehicles. These include rules for:

safe following distances
stopping
parking
load limits
using low gears.
Heavy vehicles weigh 4.5t or more and long vehicles measure 7.5m or more.

Safe following distances
When driving a vehicle that is 7.5m or longer and following another long vehicle, you must leave a gap of at least 60m between your vehicle and the vehicle in front of you.

If you are driving a road train, you must leave a gap of at least 200m.
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Follow Up By: Frank P (NSW) - Tuesday, May 18, 2021 at 11:09

Tuesday, May 18, 2021 at 11:09
The NSW rule is similar but not as east to read!
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Follow Up By: Nomadic Navara - Tuesday, May 18, 2021 at 17:47

Tuesday, May 18, 2021 at 17:47
Frank, The Qld legislation uses the same wording as the NSW legislation. Mike was just quoting a paraphrase of the Qld legislation, see the cut and paste of the Qld legislation below. I think that most states have copied the wording of the Australian Road Rules for their actual legislation, right down to the rule numbers. Compare my clip to what is in the link you posted.

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Follow Up By: Frank P (NSW) - Tuesday, May 18, 2021 at 18:13

Tuesday, May 18, 2021 at 18:13
Thanks Peter, I expected the states would have adopted the national Aust rules. Except, of course where they see a need to be different! LOL.

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Reply By: Member - Warren H - Tuesday, May 18, 2021 at 13:24

Tuesday, May 18, 2021 at 13:24
Unfortunately appears to be the rule on the Stuart Hwy rather than the exception. I've only done the drive to and from Alice once, but I would have encountered several of these conglomerations in both directions. I'm happy to sit back a km or two and dawdle along at 80 or so until it's time to take a break, but when the speed drops below 80 it's painful. When I lived in the top end, the rule of thumb was to do at least 110 kph to avoid being overtaken by a road train. (What's worse than trying to overtake a road train ...) In 2019 I thought that the same thing would apply, but it seemed that the road trains mostly travelled at night, presumably to avoid the caravans. More scary were the crazy overtaking manoeuvres by caravan towing drivers. At least three times I had to brake and be ready to go bush, fortunately you can see the situation developing on the straight roads and braking usually allows the situation to resolve. I learnt to drive travelling on the many narrow roads in FNQ, so have developed a habit of always looking for a way out if the road ahead looks a bit iffy.
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Follow Up By: Member - Bigfish - Tuesday, May 18, 2021 at 15:55

Tuesday, May 18, 2021 at 15:55
Its only going to get a lot worse with the cashed up but go overseas people buying large aluminum road blockers and trundling around the country with all the gear and no idea!!
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Reply By: Alan H11 - Wednesday, May 19, 2021 at 06:25

Wednesday, May 19, 2021 at 06:25
We must have been fortunate - in 10 months wandering around we found Australian drivers hauling caravans and truck drivers to be sensible and considerate in terms of maintaining distances. Perhaps things have deteriorated. Thinking of the importance of this, I remember many years ago in Europe a series of massive accidents in which a major factor was drivers' following too close and without thinking - there were accidents involving as many as 200 vehicles in one crash!

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Reply By: Member - McLaren3030 - Wednesday, May 19, 2021 at 07:48

Wednesday, May 19, 2021 at 07:48
Quite a few truck drivers travel in “close convoy” as a fuel saving method, taking turns at leading. Not saying it is legal, or even acceptable, just putting it out there as a reason.

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Follow Up By: Member - rocco2010 - Wednesday, May 19, 2021 at 13:37

Wednesday, May 19, 2021 at 13:37
Travelling on a motorway in Spain a few years ago I reckon there was barely two metres between some semis.

Scary to see. View out the other side of the bus was much better.

My experience on the Great Northern Highway in WA has been pretty good regarding convoys . More likely to find a wide load of mining equipment taking up the whole carriageway.

But the escorts seem to be pretty good at their jobs and finding places for people to pass. UHF essential.

More likely to find caravanners in numbers on the coastal routes.

Patience a virtue.

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Reply By: Rob J8 - Wednesday, May 19, 2021 at 20:36

Wednesday, May 19, 2021 at 20:36
When our caravan club runs roving rallies here in Western Australia, we leave in groups of 5 and travel at around 100 metres apart.
Point vehicle and tail end Charlie alternate between channel 18 and 40 .
Tail end Charlie will talk the truck through on channel 40 while the point vehicle alerts the other 3 vans on 18. Works for us. I do understand though, many caravanners won't stay on the truckle channel as the language is a bit strong.
I imagine there are plenty of caravanners out and about this year with overseas trips canned.
We're staying home. Saving up for a new caravan.
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Follow Up By: Dusta - Thursday, May 20, 2021 at 12:34

Thursday, May 20, 2021 at 12:34
most caravaners don't answer 18/40 . Really shits me when they don't answer a callup
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Follow Up By: Rob J8 - Thursday, May 20, 2021 at 19:53

Thursday, May 20, 2021 at 19:53
I only call up truckies when they're behind me on channel 40 and it really shits me when they don't respond because I'm trying to help them get around.
Spose it goes both ways.
Arrogant caravanners and arrogant truckies
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