Sunday, Nov 21, 2021 at 14:52
So here is my take on the situation as a Licensed Electrical Worker & Contractor.
We have to be licensed and that licence has to be renewed every 3 years for a Worker & every year for a Contractor - this is part of our costs. At the completion of each job we need to log on and fill out a Certificate of Compliance - again another cost in time spent.
Again, we need to operate a kitted out motor vehicle to get to the premises, capital cost + registration + insurance, again a cost.
Tools, calibrated meters etc etc., again a cost.
When you start to factor in all the costs to run a business, maintain the electrical licence etc etc, it adds up and we need to offset those costs through our charge out rate. So the rate George was charged seems very reasonable to me and he did the right thing.
Additionally, good operators will carry Liability Insurance for the work that they carry out - this is important, this is another cost. If a premises, for example, should burn down the first thing the insurance company will do is to investigate who did work and did it contribute to the event, they don't just pay out they will seek to minimise their financial exposure, at the completion of each job, the Certificate of Compliance tells the insurer who did any works and what work was done and if any defects were observed, if we observe a defect, advise you and you fail to have it remedied then it is on you.
Now if you were to do your own electrical work, and it contributed directly or indirectly to the fire, the insurer now has the ability to reject your claim, and the Electrical Authorities could charge you for illegal work.
I have read many conversations on here giving advice on electrical wiring and sometimes I just shake my head, I provide advice to clients, but I also pay Professional Indemnity Insurance to cover me in the event my advice is either incorrect or not followed to the letter, again another cost to my business.
Now on the 12V front, perhaps you don't need to be an Auto Electrician to do the work however, if there was a fault in the work carried out, say the brakes failed to operate on the caravan or the anti-sway, and it caused a serious accident, the insurance company may reject the claim as the work wasn't carried out correctly or by a licensed auto sparky who they could potentially hold liable and recover costs.
cheers
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Follow Up By: Pepper - Tuesday, Nov 23, 2021 at 03:03
Tuesday, Nov 23, 2021 at 03:03
i have had various electrical contractors complete 240v wiring on a large number of properties and was never aware there is a "certificate of compliance "...??
Should the electrical contractor provide one to the property owner,or does he just keep a record of his work for future reference ??
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Follow Up By: Allan B (Sunshine Coast) - Tuesday, Nov 23, 2021 at 09:03
Tuesday, Nov 23, 2021 at 09:03
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Pepper,
Generally, the property owner should receive a copy but the specific requirements vary from State to State.
Google "electrical compliance certificate NSW (or your State) " for full details.
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Follow Up By: Stephen L (Clare) SA - Tuesday, Nov 23, 2021 at 10:25
Tuesday, Nov 23, 2021 at 10:25
Pepper
Here in South Australia it is Law, and all electrical contractors MUST provide a COC (Certificate of Complience).
There is a legal book provided by the Government and all forms are in triplicate, one for the customer who had had work performed, one for the contractor that has carried out the work, and one for the Government if required.
On the form, a report is written on what work is undertaken, any faults that are observed and must by signed the the electrician that carried out the work and countersigned by the authorised by the company that carried out the work.
In the event that a COC is not supplied, fines can be implemented the of Office of the Public Regulator.
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Follow Up By: Allan B (Sunshine Coast) - Tuesday, Nov 23, 2021 at 11:21
Tuesday, Nov 23, 2021 at 11:21
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Hi Stephen,
Similar to other States, South Australia discontinued paper COC's in 2018. Submissions are now online and accessible by following the search reference for each State that I provided above.
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Follow Up By: cookie1 - Tuesday, Nov 23, 2021 at 13:52
Tuesday, Nov 23, 2021 at 13:52
Pepper,
it is important that you get the Tax Invoice that you paid the contractor on and keep it safe as that is your insurance in the event of an incident, I would go as far as calling the Technical Regulator and asking if they have a copy of the Electronic Certificate of Compliance (ECOC) as it is a legal requirement, it also safegaurds the Electrical Worker in the event something was to happen as it should clearly state what work they have done and if they noticed anything dodgy on the COC.
Cheers
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