This is why you never drive through water over a road.

Looks like a public road. What's this "hold my beer attitude". Any road conditions should be taken seriously.

It is called humour. You should try it sometime it is good for your soul :)

I understand humour, I have a good sense of humour. There is no sense of humour in suggesting to be having a beer while driving. Thanks for your concerned of my soul.

I agree, you should never drink while driving, you spill too much. ;=)

"Hold my beer" is a newish colloquial expression said by an unthinking person about to do something dangerous or stupid. It doesn't literally mean "hold my beer", just the same way that "holy crap" doesn't actually mean a pile of crap that's been blessed by a priest.

Perhaps he is just over-thinkin things???

I'm Thinkin he does not understand humour at all. Perhaps could use a couple of Terms at "smile school" :)

Here we go again - silly old farts at 10 paces. Some people need to get a life.

Can it still be considered a public road when the road isn't there anymore?


asking for a friend....

Also, by getting someone else to hold the beer would ensure he couldn't drink it.

My god! What has happened to our Aussie sense of humour - thank God for ExplorOz, Vietnam Veterans, Miners, Cockies (farmers) and anybody else who lived outside the nanny state and
is old enough to know that taking the p($$ is what really made Australia the place it is today.

More than a few Dave.

They say it will be at least a week before it can be repaired.

Then there is the massive damage to roads on the Eyre Highway.

Water was over the road as far back as the speed limit sign..

Imagine some idiot thinking it was safe to drive through and then hitting that nearly 1 metre section of wash out road….could have been very serious.

I would imagine that once the dam gave way the water level would have dropped very quickly and the flow would have been very noticeable.

All you need now is a Landrover RMD!...


Cheers Axle

A set of 3 pipes there originally, Ross. Maybe they’ll put in a group of box culverts now?

Bob

Not sure if it’s been posted in other states, but you should see sections of the Eyre Highway.

Water under the bitumen and lifted it like a giant jumping pillow.

Stephen
I wonder if they were plastic pipes. Seeing the road base thickness is relatively small, the height of road base above the pipes is small and if plastic, the passing truck loads flex the whole substrate and it is just sitting there but not really solid. Any water seeps through and it becomes mush in no time then washes away shortly after.

The failure on the Stuart where the B Double caught fire and melted the big plastic pipes and the supporting concrete arches had no support, and I think it was 3 sections fell in. No real integrity to begin with.

As mentioned in another reply, most likely will be concrete soon.

There were from memory 3 large concrete pipes.

They have said on the radio they they are working non stop to get at least one car width open with a couple of days, as Roxby is now isolated from the outside world and as expected, the only supermarket is fast running out of supplies.

could be around W A, new border restrictions from Premier M Mc.

Could possibly be so, but as long as it works, it's ok with us in WA :)

So Aussie1 I guess they can stop all those trucks and trains that head West as there's nothing in them of any value to WA people?

Good one Phil_NT,

And perhaps we could stop all the GST and general financial benefit we send over to the Eastern states. If you hadn't noticed ours is the only economy keeping Oz functioning.

Chill Cobber and just enjoy all the benefits we provide :)

Best if you do keep those trucks and trains "rollin" eh.

We still luv's yus all over there and often think how lucky we are over here.

Cheers

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Aw c'mon guys. We are all irritable with this Covid thing, but stop with the mud-slinging.
It's bad enough that the pollies are sniping at each other but we are all in it together so just be grateful that you are still alive.

Awe Gee Allan, He started it :):):):) And I'm the one who said we Luvs him :)

Must say I just love your part of OZ.

Cheers Cobber.

Bazooka
The church just up the road had a sign, it said, "turn your life around now, before it is too late" Obviously enough prior warning!

Saw that but read it as turn your WIFE around. She's not keen on muddy water crossings or steep hillclimbs/descents. Too bad for atheists and agnostics who make up ~half the population.

The flow of water there and through the Flinders can only be described as raging torrents and when like that, only fools try to drive through.

Here is also a picture of a Hilux trying to cross a raging creek, south of Leigh Creek in the same floodwaters over the weekend.

The water they say way over a metre deep, a raging torrent, yet the guy thought he would get through.

The Hilux was swept away and swept 80 metres downstream before being lodge against a River Red Gum. Lucky for the drive, he had his yellow flashing light on and it was the only way the SES could find him.

A bit of rain in Perth would be nice but not that much.

A lot of those places received in excess of 200mm of rain, while down in the Mid North where I live in Clare, only 32mm of rain.

Many part even further south received no rain at all, so was mainly in the pastoral areas.

Also Trevor Wright was also non the radio this morning and said that the Simpson Desert got a lot of that raid as well, with many of the swales under water.

Well there's no way I would have driven through one metre deep fast flowing water !

But where people come unstuck in situations like that is they don't realise that most 4wd's have the spare wheel under the car at the rear and that becomes a big floatation device and soon lifts the rear wheels off the ground letting the flowing water push the rear of the car down stream - usually ending up in big big trouble !

Gazz

Gazz.
Does an inflated tyre/wheel float or sink or have marginal flotation and negligible effect. Some float, sort of, some sink. All depends on tyre section and displacement for wheel total weight.
Most vehicles have a lighter open flaoation team and a non sealed heavy engine end which is the end underwater first. The rear floats because largey because of body floatation.

RMD

All I can say to that RMD is that back in 2012 when my brand new 3 month old stock az PX Ranger super cab with no snorkel crossed the Deua River with water covering the bonnet and half way across the slow flowing river the rear end just started floating and pushed my new pride and joy down stream. Luckily my experience stopped me from panicking and with the front wheels still on the river bed and still driving I just kept the bow wave going along with the steady and slow momentum and prayed to god that Ford's advertised 800mm wading depth wasn't bull$hitt and my new to me insurance company would buy me a new ute should it end up in Victoria lol.

Made it to the other side with much relief and semi soiled undies lol

After that the decision was made to attach a snatch strap to the other two utes in the group and use the big Patrol with a six inch lift running 35 inch tyres to help them across should they end up in the same situation as me should it be required. Best decision as they both started floating down stream faster than I did.

My passenger and good friend has a pic so I will try and get it and post it here.

" Does an inflated tyre/wheel float or sink or have marginal flotation and negligible effect. Some float, sort of, some sink. All depends on tyre section and displacement for wheel total weight.
Most vehicles have a lighter open flaoation team and a non sealed heavy engine end which is the end underwater first. The rear floats because largey because of body floatation. "

In my situation at the time I couldn't have given a $$hitt about that nor did I have time to google it whilst in the middle of the river !!!

Cheers
Gazz

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RMD,
It makes no difference if the tyre/wheel floats or not. The buoyancy effect is a function of the weight of water displaced by it.
The tyre/wheel, when bolted on, becomes an integral part of the whole vehicle and cannot be considered alone other than for its volume.
The significance of the tyre/wheel under the vehicle is that, being lower, it becomes the first part of the vehicle mass to be submerged and thus the initial point of buoyancy.

But, as you say, the engine bay being open has less buoyancy effect but plenty of weight so the rear wheels will be the first to lose traction and get pushed sideways by a torrent.

When fording, it is an advantage to maintain reasonable forward speed, especially if 'wearing a bra', to create a bow wave and accompanying following basin to reduce the buoyancy effect. The Troopy was great at this as it was heavy and high clearance. Mine didn't have a tyre underneath but it did have a couple of large fuel tanks, so I needed to keep her moving!
And no cracks about the "bra" if you please!!

Very different when the Stuart Highway was all natural dirt, no pipes under the road, no culverts and the like

Your pictures just show still pooled water that in most cases had a solid bottom from being compacted from thousands of cars over the years.

My original post was regarding fast moving water that is capable of and did wash vehicles off the road.

As for your pictures, we had to do the very same thing when it was still dirt and flooded. When it came to the long sections under water, we walked it first to make sure there were no hidden traps.