Snow chains manditory for all cars

Submitted: Saturday, Jul 03, 2004 at 10:35
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Talking to club mag editor, she has an article stating BLITZ (means money making exercise)' on 4wd's up round "Alpine" roads.

What is an alpine road? The roads thru mansfield? jamieson?

Can you say "MONEY MAKER"...

anyone know where to get chains for 34x11.5's?
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Reply By: Flash - Saturday, Jul 03, 2004 at 11:12

Saturday, Jul 03, 2004 at 11:12
No,
But if your desperate a friend some years ago made his own....said once he worked out how it was easy and cheap...
bought the required chain and split links from a ship chandler I think from memory.
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Reply By: Bonz (Vic) - Saturday, Jul 03, 2004 at 12:01

Saturday, Jul 03, 2004 at 12:01
Carrying them was always compulsory for all cars, its just fitting them wasnt. IO don't have them but hoping to be in Dinner Plain in Sept so have to get some.

As you say T-Man the issue will be what road is an Alpine Road?
The answer: Any road within sight of a hill and containing a walloper hell bent on meeting his fine tally for the month
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Reply By: GOB & denny vic member - Saturday, Jul 03, 2004 at 12:54

Saturday, Jul 03, 2004 at 12:54
howdy
did BAZ take any chains with him i wonder

steve
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Reply By: rotten - Saturday, Jul 03, 2004 at 16:21

Saturday, Jul 03, 2004 at 16:21
Oops, got some konig diamond pattern chains to suit jackeroo, pathfinder etc. $200.00 never been on the car except to trial fit. In melbourne area, 9734 1663, 0402 467 056. (half price at least)
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Reply By: Member - Toonfish - Saturday, Jul 03, 2004 at 17:13

Saturday, Jul 03, 2004 at 17:13
there was a big write up in a local rag whilst in mansfield over the queens b'day weekend saying about a chain crackdown .
you have to carry them but they never ask to see the chain size vs tyre size?

I have no idea why on many maps they dont state compulsary chain carrying roads in the alpine areas?

when you look at some chains and tyre depths and channel width between treads tyres may not benefit from chains apart from maybe the ability to break a ice patch up to be driven over.

seen plenty of real snow driving over seas they had no chains (although iceland beasts have spiked tyres.
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Reply By: Patrol22 (Queanbeyan - Saturday, Jul 03, 2004 at 17:46

Saturday, Jul 03, 2004 at 17:46
While it is probably a good idea to carry chains - here on the NSW side of the Kos NP it is not mandatory for 4WDrives to carry them - and that includes soft roaders.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Saturday, Jul 03, 2004 at 22:09

Saturday, Jul 03, 2004 at 22:09
Thats the thing, it wasnt, but it is now.
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Follow Up By: Steve L - Sunday, Jul 18, 2004 at 14:55

Sunday, Jul 18, 2004 at 14:55
Truckster,

Sorry, wrong.

NPWS confirm that snow chains do NOT have to be carried by any 4WD or AWD vehicle in the Kossi NP in NSW.

The article you (or the club contact) saw was misleading/incorrect.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Sunday, Jul 18, 2004 at 23:07

Sunday, Jul 18, 2004 at 23:07
Sorry Right.

It was brought up at our club meeting last week.

Theres a thread here about it.

Any ALPINE road needs chains to be carried.
The article the club contact had was from the Parks themselves.

YMMV
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Follow Up By: Steve L - Tuesday, Jul 20, 2004 at 09:35

Tuesday, Jul 20, 2004 at 09:35
Still wrong.

Contact NPWS Snowy Region Visitors Centre on 02 6450 5600 and check for yourself - the staff there have confirmed that the article was WRONG, and that chains are definitely NOT required to be carried on NSW alpine roads.

They have had a number of enquiries following the article you refer to, and have confirmed that it is incorrect.
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Follow Up By: Steve L - Tuesday, Jul 20, 2004 at 13:48

Tuesday, Jul 20, 2004 at 13:48
Of course the chain carrying requirement (or lack of) referred to in my above post is only for 4WDs/AWDs still - 2WDs must carry chains.
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Reply By: Troopy Travellers (NSW) - Saturday, Jul 03, 2004 at 22:43

Saturday, Jul 03, 2004 at 22:43
We go skiing down to Koziusko once a year , but now that I've got a troopy I'm going to take it, instead of the ford falcon we normally go in. PS: we have already slipped on black ice, ( near Smiggin Hole) in the falcon & smacked into another car.

I didn't think I would have to carry snow chains for the troopy, but after reading Trucksters post it seems that it's mandatory now???? I thought/hoped that I was finally getting away without having to carry chains anymore.

The troopys' tyres are BG Goodrich All Terrain Tyres, 32x11.5,R15.
Any idea how much for chains?

or I suppose I can hire them down at Jindabyne, hoping they have chains to suit that tyre!
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Follow Up By: Dave from Fraser Coast 4WD Club - Sunday, Jul 04, 2004 at 09:10

Sunday, Jul 04, 2004 at 09:10
It is still the case in NSW that 4wds do not have to carry chains.

I was at PB two weeks ago and the "4wd vehicles excepted" signs were all still there!!
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Reply By: floyd - Wednesday, Jul 07, 2004 at 20:02

Wednesday, Jul 07, 2004 at 20:02
Mansfield police have been known to get drivers to "prove" that the chains actually fit the vehicle. Work mate had to do this once and he and the cop new each other.

Fine was $165.00 and 3 demerit points a couple of years ago for not carrying them on designated Alpine rds.

The fine is for "disobeying a traffic sign" under Vic Roads regulation.

Easy way to get bigger chains is to buy the biggest ones near to your size, go to Pirahna in Dorset rd and buy high tensile wheel chain from them in lengths. They sell it by the metre. It is approved and rated snow chain that has been made for vehicles. I extended my chains to fit 33 inch tyres and just chopped and added a few links. Worked perfectly.
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