LC200 tie rods
Submitted: Tuesday, Feb 28, 2023 at 12:05
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Member - JB (TAS)
Hi I’m new to this
forum, but would value the advice of those who travel very remotely.
I’m doing the
Canning Stock Route south to north in June. I have a
well setup LC200 diesel V8. I’m going with a group of 8 vehicles
My question is about tie rods. Should I 1) take a spare set , or 2) upgrade to heavier duty rods.
I’ve been going into the outback for 16 years and done the Simpson,
Cape York road etc so have done a lot of rough tracks, but the CRS is seriously remote.
Many thanks for any advice.
James
Reply By: Mikee5 - Tuesday, Feb 28, 2023 at 16:07
Tuesday, Feb 28, 2023 at 16:07
Forgive my question, why do you think tie rods, in particular are likely to fail, over and above any other part of the steering, or the vehicle as a whole?
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Reply By: Member - JB (TAS) - Tuesday, Feb 28, 2023 at 18:18
Tuesday, Feb 28, 2023 at 18:18
Mikee5, Phil Bianchi in his book on the CSR mentions that any part of the
suspension and steering can fail on that track, so as the parts are not expensive I am just seeking advice. Shock absorbers are the most common parts to need repair along the track so have those.
I was really wondering if anyone has had experience along that track and if so whether those component, tie rods, had suffered. Perhaps not in which case it’s one less concern.
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Follow Up By: lindsay - Tuesday, Feb 28, 2023 at 19:01
Tuesday, Feb 28, 2023 at 19:01
I would not worry about them. I have been on the C.S.R. twice with standard
suspension in a landrover defender. I didn't take anymore than wheel bearings and hub seals. fan belt.stretchy stuff to wrap around radiator hoses and some short bits a tubing with hose clamps to join radiator hose or heater hose.
Take it easy and don't belt the hell out of it and you be ok. you can take too many spares but if your travelling as a group with the same type of vehicles there is always a possibility of sharing parts that you might need. Save everyone taking the same parts.
Just my 2 bobs worth.
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Reply By: AlbyNSW - Wednesday, Mar 01, 2023 at 07:21
Wednesday, Mar 01, 2023 at 07:21
I personally don’t see the need and consider a tie rod failure a fair way down the list of potential issues that will stop you in your tracks
Weight is your enemy on these sort of trecks so wouldn’t be carrying anything not necessary
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Follow Up By: Member - JB (TAS) - Thursday, Mar 09, 2023 at 14:26
Thursday, Mar 09, 2023 at 14:26
Thanks Alby. Had replaced my shocks for Cape trip last year and have a spare set for CSR. Definitely working to keep weight to a minimum and new shoes for the vehicle!
Looking forward to the trip if water /rain doesn’t spoil the party
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Reply By: Member - JB (TAS) - Wednesday, Mar 01, 2023 at 08:41
Wednesday, Mar 01, 2023 at 08:41
Thanks Lindsay. That was my thought but nice to have someone confirm it..
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Reply By: gke - Wednesday, Mar 01, 2023 at 13:05
Wednesday, Mar 01, 2023 at 13:05
Hi James,
My advice is to do all you can to negate the pounding from corrugations especially in the ironstone section.
Eg. brace your battery trays very
well. Do a daily vehicle
check all over.
Drive slowly. Keep the weight down.
However at least as important is the group dynamics relating to driving times each day, length of breaks, number of multi night stops, speed of travel etc.
It is easy to underestimate the psychological effects of such a trip with a large group.
Apologies if you have got that all sorted already.
Enjoy a great trip.
Graham
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Follow Up By: Member - JB (TAS) - Wednesday, Mar 01, 2023 at 14:07
Wednesday, Mar 01, 2023 at 14:07
Thanks Graham. Just the advice I need. 8 car group with a mechanic which will help me, if needed, as I’m not the best mechanic around??.
Question. Was spinifex removal an issue for you?
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Follow Up By: gke - Wednesday, Mar 01, 2023 at 17:30
Wednesday, Mar 01, 2023 at 17:30
Old information James :
In 1999 Spinifex was a problem going to Separation
Well and some other side trips which I understand you can’t do now .
Our second trip in around 2005 we had no trouble.
With this year’s big wet season , depending on the time in June you may find the centre of the track nicely mowed.
Cheers, Graham.
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Follow Up By: MIKE G2 - Thursday, Mar 02, 2023 at 20:12
Thursday, Mar 02, 2023 at 20:12
My wife's task at each stop, was to
check for Spinifex under the vehicle. Carry a length of sturdy wire with a hook on the end. It was invaluable. You will see a few burnt out vehicles on the way that may not have done this!
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Follow Up By: Member - David M (SA) - Thursday, Mar 02, 2023 at 22:59
Thursday, Mar 02, 2023 at 22:59
Was that before or after she checked the oil and water Mike. :)
Dave.
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Reply By: Bob Y. - Qld - Wednesday, Mar 01, 2023 at 14:44
Wednesday, Mar 01, 2023 at 14:44
A lot depends on the odometer reading on the 200, JB. Probably easier, and perhaps cheaper, to do such servicing before you leave
home?
Spares shocks are almost a must, and in 2019, I took a new alternator, that suited the 2 79 series in our group. Also took lots of tyre plugs but only needed about 10 for one repair.
The corrugations are relentless, they just go for
miles........err, kms. Actually thousands of them! The sudden silence as you traverse a sandhill is almost therapeutic. We camped an extra night at Durba Springs & had an RDO near
Thring Rock.
Enjoy,
Bob
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Follow Up By: Member - JB (TAS) - Thursday, Mar 09, 2023 at 14:19
Thursday, Mar 09, 2023 at 14:19
Thanks Bob. I have done all the servicing and I’m carrying spare shocks as they seem to be the system that fails the most according to the garage along the way. Might get a few more plugs though??
Thanks
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Reply By: Member - DOZER - Friday, Mar 03, 2023 at 10:40
Friday, Mar 03, 2023 at 10:40
dont worry about them, worry about spare shocks and rubbers, long range fuel tank and very good tyres x6.
If 200 is pre 2010, consider a new rack, as the pressure lines have been known to fail, later ones are braced better
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Follow Up By: Member - JB (TAS) - Thursday, Mar 09, 2023 at 14:21
Thursday, Mar 09, 2023 at 14:21
Dozer, it’s a 2010 model.. waddaya think? Got the long range tank and spare shocks.
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