Big Red Victim

Submitted: Sunday, Jul 11, 2004 at 18:16
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Well the Big Red claimed another victim on Friday - a Pajero (what model - dark green!) - blew up the engine. Tyre pressures were 15 but seems like it did a valve and has now gone back to whence it came in the cold car of the supply truck. Luckily for the people it was still under Warranty.
Would also note some very close calls as far as head-on collisions on the tops of dunes because people are not, carrying high red dune flags and using channel 10 for desert traffic.
Would also remind tag-a-long tours (private more than professional here) that lead vehicle with one flag is not enough - every vehicle should carry a high flag. Secondly, to those long straggedly groups manners apply - just because there are more of you does not mean you can't move over to let someone past.
Thirdly, to 4 WD Clubs (no names mentioned here) Channel 10 UHF in the Desert applies to your members as well - as does the rule of manners. Very sadly lacking in large groups this year.
Fourthly, would parents think about what they are doing when giving children hand-held UHF's. Might mean 20 minutes peace and quiet for them so kids in following vehicles can talk dribble and scream at each other, BUT think about this. More than likely the towns and properties that you pass through use those channels to communicate for their daily work and emergencies and the constant dribble drives these people to distraction. UHF's are NOT TOYS. As for which channels to use and not use - it is time people read their instructions when they buy them.
Well now everyone, that's enough to digest for today. Have a safe trip.
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Reply By: Bonz (Vic) - Sunday, Jul 11, 2004 at 18:31

Sunday, Jul 11, 2004 at 18:31
Sage words Ruth, we should all heed them. Last thing I'd want is another car parked in the front of mine at the top of a dune.
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Follow Up By: Member - Ruth D (QLD) - Sunday, Jul 11, 2004 at 18:56

Sunday, Jul 11, 2004 at 18:56
It's a bit scary Bonz - but not as scary as Baz.LOL
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Sunday, Jul 11, 2004 at 21:26

Sunday, Jul 11, 2004 at 21:26
hahaah Ruth, Baz is a gentleman and Kerrie and Venessa are lovely too, good to meet them today
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Reply By: Mad Dog (Victoria) - Sunday, Jul 11, 2004 at 18:36

Sunday, Jul 11, 2004 at 18:36
Thanks for the good advise Ruth. I'm guilty of giving my kids handhelds to prattle on but in the city every channel sounds the same. Perhaps there should be a kids channel in the outback.
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Follow Up By: Member - Ruth D (QLD) - Sunday, Jul 11, 2004 at 18:58

Sunday, Jul 11, 2004 at 18:58
Doesn't the two-way in the city drive you nuts - mine goes off about 300 klms out! Love the little man - only needs a halo and he could be The Saint. LOL
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Follow Up By: Mad Dog (Victoria) - Sunday, Jul 11, 2004 at 19:55

Sunday, Jul 11, 2004 at 19:55
It does Ruth and that's why it's usually turned off. I have lots of other frequencies at my disposal that I use.
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Reply By: Member - JohnR (Vic) - Sunday, Jul 11, 2004 at 18:51

Sunday, Jul 11, 2004 at 18:51
Well said Ruth.

It is also important that people have working UHF sets too for these conditions. It is not only inportant for The Simpson being near you, Ruth.

I heard about a group crossing the CSR where the lead vehicle of one group was a rally driver with quick reactions, he threw the truck off the track far enough to avoid the head on. The trucks ended door to door and could not open them. Unprepared vehicleand driver and low flag on the other vehicle.

Folks travelling, Ruth offers very good advice even if you may feel a dill buying a dune flag long before you get there, please do it....
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Follow Up By: Member - Ruth D (QLD) - Sunday, Jul 11, 2004 at 18:59

Sunday, Jul 11, 2004 at 18:59
Thanks JR - probably should apologise for giving The Lesson - but it is Sunday. LOL
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Follow Up By: Mad Dog (Victoria) - Sunday, Jul 11, 2004 at 19:53

Sunday, Jul 11, 2004 at 19:53
When I get around to it I'll be purchasing a pole and storing it along with a flag permanently in the ute I don't normally get up to the Simpson but there are areas in the Vic desert region where a flag should be used. It's got more to do with the width of the track than the size of the dune.
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Reply By: Member - John C (QLD) - Sunday, Jul 11, 2004 at 19:00

Sunday, Jul 11, 2004 at 19:00
This is an excellent forum to get this sort of advice out there.
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Reply By: Brew69(SA) - Sunday, Jul 11, 2004 at 19:32

Sunday, Jul 11, 2004 at 19:32
Agree with you about the flags , but no-one owns a UHF channel. All general use channels are fair game where ever you go. I have a few businesses near me that use 10 for their work. IMO with the exception of 1-8 and 31-38 repeaters. 5 emergency, 10 us crazies,11 call (who uses it anymore?) 18 caravaners. 22 & 23 Singaling, and 40 for the truckies, all other chanels are fair game and that means i let my kids use these. I consider that these hand helds are toys, and so does the govt or they would have them liscenced. Any entertainment for kids when travelling is a godsend.
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Follow Up By: Member - Sparkie (QLD) - Sunday, Jul 11, 2004 at 20:33

Sunday, Jul 11, 2004 at 20:33
Hey Brew69

I agree about your comment but also agree with Ruth as well. So if Entertainment for the kids is an issue why not consider buying those portable dvd players. That should keep the quiet for the whole day with a few movies to watch. And before you say it you can pick up alot of good movies cheap from those video store sales.

I was driving home yesterday from 4WDing and my 17 month old screamed for a solid 45 minutes while we were driving home and I must admit I asked my brother in the car in front to talk to her(channel 13) Every now and then because it would make her happy for a little while but as soon as she gets old enough I will get her a portable dvd player and she can watch movies till her eyes hurt as long as she does so quietly.

Just my $00.02 worth

Sparkie(IE not Y) ;-)
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Follow Up By: Brew69(SA) - Sunday, Jul 11, 2004 at 20:41

Sunday, Jul 11, 2004 at 20:41
Yeah, thats all my comment was ......my 2 cents worth. I know what Ruth was saying and i am not one to argue, but stand by my comments. Point taken on dvd player too.
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Follow Up By: Member - AndrewPatrol - Monday, Jul 12, 2004 at 18:18

Monday, Jul 12, 2004 at 18:18
DVD is not only for the kids, works really well if you let the other half drive, set up some blinds on the side rear windows, recline the seats and hey presto. Won't know yourself.
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Follow Up By: Member - AndrewPatrol - Monday, Jul 12, 2004 at 18:22

Monday, Jul 12, 2004 at 18:22
forgot to add a pillow and put your feet up on the centre console!!!!!!!!!
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Reply By: Member - Sparkie (QLD) - Sunday, Jul 11, 2004 at 20:40

Sunday, Jul 11, 2004 at 20:40
TEEHEEE..........
I am learning more stuff all the time.
Keep those posts coming as it all helps this newbie's education

Sparkie(IE not Y) ;-)
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Follow Up By: Member - Ruth D (QLD) - Sunday, Jul 11, 2004 at 20:42

Sunday, Jul 11, 2004 at 20:42
Thanks Sparkie, we need more Queenslanders to save us from the southerners. LOL
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Follow Up By: Brew69(SA) - Sunday, Jul 11, 2004 at 20:49

Sunday, Jul 11, 2004 at 20:49
Well its too cold for our brains to function properly at the moment Ruth lol I live for summer
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Reply By: Allan Mac (VIC) - Sunday, Jul 11, 2004 at 20:52

Sunday, Jul 11, 2004 at 20:52
Theres nothing wrong with the old walkie talkies that are around for the kids. Leave the UHF for the serious stuff.
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Reply By: GaryInOz (Vic) - Sunday, Jul 11, 2004 at 22:37

Sunday, Jul 11, 2004 at 22:37
Maybe another use for the old 27 Mhz sets on channel ???? (not 9 or 11). UHF seem to be the main communication b/n vehicles these days maybe it is time we all passed up on the 27 Mhz sets.
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Reply By: Member - Brian (Gold Coast) - Monday, Jul 12, 2004 at 06:19

Monday, Jul 12, 2004 at 06:19
I agree about the UHF thing.... although also its fair game when the UHF frequency's are "anybody's"!
The thing that annoys me is, particularly around cities, the language factor is absolutely shameful. We have just returned from two weeks between Gold Coast and Canberra, the language on highway channnel around Sydney is woeful. We simply turned it off, obviously you can't stop it any other way. I don't mean swearing to accentuate a point, I mean swearing for the sake of swearing coupled with abusive swearing for no apparent reason. Why on earth people can't talk over the UHF without resorting to bad language is beyond me, but like I said, we can't stop it so we turn it off. Once beyond "City Limits" the language was cut to a minimum, and the useful information about the road ahead outweighs the occassional curse.
We have 2 hand helds as well as the in-car UHF, the kids get one when we are camping and they are off riding bikes etc.... always set to a different channel than the rest of the convoy. They ofen ask for one in the back seat to amuse themselves when driving, but the answer is always no.

Just my 2 cents worth as well.
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Reply By: Dave from Fraser Coast 4WD Club - Monday, Jul 12, 2004 at 07:20

Monday, Jul 12, 2004 at 07:20
If the rate of kids (and older kids) playing with UHF begins then we will see a move towards more and more people using their radios in silent or quiet mode, only allowing the transmissions of others in their group through, this will be a sad day!!

If you really must give a radio to the kids, get two old 27mhz sets, little handheld walkie talkies.
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Follow Up By: Member - Ruth D (QLD) - Monday, Jul 12, 2004 at 07:37

Monday, Jul 12, 2004 at 07:37
Thanks, Dave, that's a good point.
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Reply By: oddy - Tuesday, Jul 13, 2004 at 20:38

Tuesday, Jul 13, 2004 at 20:38
is it you Ruth or the word 'victim' in the post that gets 750+ hits!!
btw : new to site - see you a lot. what's the go.
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Follow Up By: Member - Ruth D (QLD) - Tuesday, Jul 13, 2004 at 21:47

Tuesday, Jul 13, 2004 at 21:47
Nah, it's Big Red. Do this for stress relief!!!!
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