4WD vs 2WD for towing
Submitted: Monday, Jan 01, 2024 at 17:24
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Hi all, I'm a relative newbie to caravanning (and total Newbie here!), but I've bought my tow vehicle an Isuzu MUX MY21 2WD which I believed was good/great to tow the Eco Tourer Slipstream 2019 which has a Tare of 1720Kg, ball weight of 157Kg and ATM of 2250Kg. I've yet to pick the van up or get a tow bar etc fitted to the car. Since buying the 2 vehicles, I've been advised by someone who sounds very literate in towing matters that even though the 2WD MUX has a published max towing capacity of 3500Kg (or 3000Kg depending on where you look), that van would be 'at the limit' for the 2WD and I should consider trying to get my money back from the dealer as it's not 'fit for purpose', possibly by getting a credit against the inevitably more expensive 4WD MUX. He talked a lot about axle weights, tow-and-load assessments, the Law etc! Has anyone got any comment on that? Thanks in advance,
John
Reply By: RMD - Monday, Jan 01, 2024 at 19:17
Monday, Jan 01, 2024 at 19:17
Rivers
Depending on what you intend to use the rig for, the MUX 2wd might be quite ok. If ever in wet areas or greasy mud then the 4wd has advantages. The MUX has less towbar overhang than a Dmax so the ball is closer to the rear axle. An advantage there.
If the van has a long A frame it probably won't place too much load on the ball and the rear MUX springs might cope without sagging. To cater for the mass on the towball and also during braking the rear shock absorbers probably won't cope
well and a degree of porpoising will be experienced. Isuzu aren't noted for having really good shocks.
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Reply By: Member - Mark (Tamworth NSW) - Monday, Jan 01, 2024 at 19:36
Monday, Jan 01, 2024 at 19:36
I normally towed our 2.2T typical load mass van with our Pajero for a couple of years in 2WD, I never bothered selecting 4H. I don't know anything about MUXs.
AWD or 4WD may be better but by less than a bees antenna unless there is poor traction.
Regrading Law I think Isuzu would have that covered under their claimed towing capacity and the Gross Combination Mass,
check out the GCM, for your peace of mind.
Major thing when new to towing is to select the right gear as Isuzu will recommend in their owner manual.
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Follow Up By: Member - Mark (Tamworth NSW) - Tuesday, Jan 02, 2024 at 08:47
Tuesday, Jan 02, 2024 at 08:47
PS look, then ask the same question on the caravan
forum website, there is a dedicated ISUZU section on it.
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Reply By: Andrew L - Wednesday, Jan 03, 2024 at 10:27
Wednesday, Jan 03, 2024 at 10:27
The stats look ok for those van specs on the MUX, you wont have any luck returning the car, dont go down that path, they are not in control of your van purchase, you have to do the sums. That said, im sure they will accomodate you upgrading, but you will loose 10k in purchase price.
Power wise you will have ample, you will need load levellers to take weight off rear
suspension and rear axle.
If the towball weight is 175, then 350 kg will be on the rear axle without load levellers, and you will be nose up. (this is all rough calcs) leaving 300 kg for occupants and levelling gear and luggage in the car.
Van wise, it seems you will be able to put 500kg in it, water, bedding, clothes food etc, remember 175 goes to the cars weight limit, so even more if packed correctly keeping 175 on the ball.
google your local area for a weigh
bridge, reverse the rear on and see what weight is on the rear axle as a starting point.
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Reply By: Phil G - Wednesday, Jan 03, 2024 at 10:55
Wednesday, Jan 03, 2024 at 10:55
The 2wd version is OK. It has the same payload and the same GCM as the 4wd version.
The 4wd MUX is "part-time 4wd", so you'd be towing in 2H anyway on bitumen.
If towing on a loose surface - such as gravel, there is some benefit to engaging 4wd.
There has been the odd occasion I've been glad to have a 4wd - particularly if you are taking off on a reasonable slope on a gravel road with the caravan hooked on.
If you bought a different vehicle - say a Prado - it would be full-time 4wd.
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