GME PLB Battery Renewal.
Submitted: Sunday, Feb 09, 2025 at 14:43
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Member - Wozikev
I have a GME PLB Accusat 406/121.5 GPS equipped. It is still operational, although the battery expiry date is Nov 2023. Can anyone help me with a firm in Western Australia that can replace the expired battery.
Reply By: AlbyNSW - Sunday, Feb 09, 2025 at 15:37
Sunday, Feb 09, 2025 at 15:37
Unless it’s changed you have to send them back to GME and the cost is up there with just buying a new one
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Follow Up By: Member - Wozikev - Sunday, Feb 09, 2025 at 15:54
Sunday, Feb 09, 2025 at 15:54
Thanks Alby, I had heard that was pretty much the case. Scandalous isn't it.
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Reply By: Peter_n_Margaret - Sunday, Feb 09, 2025 at 15:37
Sunday, Feb 09, 2025 at 15:37
GME
Sydney Service Centre
17 Gibbon Road
Winston Hills
NSW 2153
Australia
Phone: 1300 463 463
Email: enquiries@gme.net.au
Cheers,
Peter
OKA196 motorhome
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Reply By: Member - LeighW - Sunday, Feb 09, 2025 at 15:47
Sunday, Feb 09, 2025 at 15:47
l contacted them about a battery replacement, they refered me to a link. The link indicated they offer a battery replacement sevice and to return the unit to them. I returned the unit and once they received it they sent me an email indicating that don't replace the battery but instead offered me a discount off a new unit. From memory it was about $100 off the going price, so effectively cost me $220 to have the battery replaced! If you pull one apart you will see it is quite an easy job to replace the battery and the batteries aren't that expensive but from memory there are few who are allowed to replace the battery so they effectively can charge what they want, reminds me of the Apple sarga. This is one area consumer protection should look into and get them to justify the cost.
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Follow Up By: Member - Wozikev - Sunday, Feb 09, 2025 at 16:02
Sunday, Feb 09, 2025 at 16:02
Yeah, thanks Leigh. Scandalous isn't it. I'll
shop around a bit.
Cheers ........................... Wozikev.
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Reply By: Member - Cuppa - Sunday, Feb 09, 2025 at 15:49
Sunday, Feb 09, 2025 at 15:49
Hi I can't provide the ifo you are asking for but I thought I would comment as we recently went through the process of 'renewing' our PLB. Our old one was the GME MT410G..
Cost of refurbishment - new battery & re-certifying was going to be $299.
We bought the Ocean Rescue PLB1 for $300 with the same battery life & other specifications as the GME, but is far smaller (easy to slip into a shirt pocket).
It's size mean we are a lot more likely to carry it when walking, away from our vehicle.
I noted too that when GME refurbish PLB's, that whilst they get a new battery, they only provide a 12 month warranty on refurbished PLB's! Although they do the refurbishments, everything on their web site pushes you toward buying a new replacement.
GME refurb info
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Follow Up By: Member - Wozikev - Sunday, Feb 09, 2025 at 15:59
Sunday, Feb 09, 2025 at 15:59
Thanks Cuppa.
I think I'll
shop around a bit and see what I can find. If I have any joy I'll get back to you.
Cheers ................... Wozikev.
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Follow Up By: Member - Cuppa - Sunday, Feb 09, 2025 at 18:32
Sunday, Feb 09, 2025 at 18:32
On double checking I find that I paid $355 for the Ocean Signal Rescue PLB1 with a battery use by date of Feb 2032. (Some cheaper offerings of the same thing can have a year or so less - pays to check)
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Reply By: Batt's - Sunday, Feb 09, 2025 at 19:06
Sunday, Feb 09, 2025 at 19:06
This won't answer the question but
mine was around a 2010 model and it still works when you hit the test button. It had been restickered after the original 5yr expiry date so around 14yrs old. I pulled the battery out last year and discarded it.
It's just been sitting in the cupboard since I sold my boat yrs ago.
It's a shame they can't even replace a battery for a reasonable price these days but we need to keep the landfill up to pace.
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Reply By: Stephen L (Clare) SA - Sunday, Feb 09, 2025 at 20:15
Sunday, Feb 09, 2025 at 20:15
Hi
When I was working and sold those units, there are a couple of things to take into account, but things may have changed over the last couple of years.
The cost of replacement battery was almost the cost of a new PLB
The replacement battery only had a 12 month warranty, whereas your original sealed unit had a 7 year battery warranty.
Over the years and for that very reason, I have replaced 2 PLB’s and even last year purchased a new GME MT610 which are now almost half the size of my old GME PLB
Look around and the cheapest I have seen them for is $339
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Follow Up By: Member - rocco2010 - Sunday, Feb 09, 2025 at 22:30
Sunday, Feb 09, 2025 at 22:30
And what’s your life worth?
$350, seven years, a dollar a week.
I’ll be buying a new one in a few months.
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Stephen L (Clare) SA - Monday, Feb 10, 2025 at 00:47
Monday, Feb 10, 2025 at 00:47
You have it all wrong Rocco
I have a PLB and recommend every vehicle carry one, but……
Only a new PLB has a guaranteed 7 year battery life and a reconditioned PLB, GME would only guarantee for one year.
That is why I would recommend buying a new one.
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Follow Up By: Member - rocco2010 - Monday, Feb 10, 2025 at 03:21
Monday, Feb 10, 2025 at 03:21
Stephen
That’s what I thought I was saying.
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Stephen L (Clare) SA - Monday, Feb 10, 2025 at 09:46
Monday, Feb 10, 2025 at 09:46
Sorry Rocco
Miss read your reply.
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Reply By: Member - Jim S1 - Monday, Feb 10, 2025 at 08:19
Monday, Feb 10, 2025 at 08:19
My plan is to buy a new one when the current one expires (by date) , but keep the old one in the car as a possible back-up.
Pretty cheap insurance for real emergencies.
Cheers
Jim
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Reply By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Monday, Feb 10, 2025 at 09:44
Monday, Feb 10, 2025 at 09:44
My view is if you haven't had to use it its super cheap insurance over a 10 year life span. If you have had to use it, for either a major mechanical breakdown or medical situation that puts your life in danger, the repairs or hospitalisation would cost more than the $300 PLB. I have been in the NRMA premium Care ($300 per year currently) since it started and normal road service forever and i cant ever remember calling them. In fact, if you have been a member here on ExplorOz for the last 10 years, its cost the same as a new PLB.
Its just insurance and probably the cheapest i can think of that could save your life at about $30 per year.
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Reply By: Peter J4 - Tuesday, Feb 11, 2025 at 07:58
Tuesday, Feb 11, 2025 at 07:58
You have to also consider that the size and contained technology like improved GPS chips etc and lower power usage of a new unit are also a good reason to buy a new one as
well.
Much like the vehicle scenario, the current 10 y/o vehicle with a blown engine does the job but a replacement newer vehicle might be a better option than fixing the old one in the long run.
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Follow Up By: Member - LeighW - Tuesday, Feb 11, 2025 at 12:36
Tuesday, Feb 11, 2025 at 12:36
Enough electronic waste in the world now without throwing out a perfectly good device just because its battery has reached its expiration date. In this case the new unit is simply replacing another with the same functionality.
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Follow Up By: Batt's - Thursday, Feb 13, 2025 at 16:09
Thursday, Feb 13, 2025 at 16:09
With you car scenario applied we greatly increase the landfill throwing away a large item that has had a small part fal but that's just an acceptable practice these days. In the long term no it's a bad decision we're already over polluting at a staggering rate but as humans go it's all about the convenience so we are more likely to do what suits us for the short term. Our future generations will suffer greatly living on this rubbish dump we call earth.
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Reply By: Member - Ups and Downs - Wednesday, Feb 12, 2025 at 06:48
Wednesday, Feb 12, 2025 at 06:48
Thank goodness that GME don't make cars.
Imagine having to buy a new one because he battery went flat.
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Follow Up By: Stephen L (Clare) SA - Wednesday, Feb 12, 2025 at 09:19
Wednesday, Feb 12, 2025 at 09:19
What a stupid reply from someone that does not know anything about this Australian company.
GME make premium Australian made products and their PLB is no exception.
If you did your homework, you will know the GME are the only PLB available here in Australia that are 100% made here in Australia, not the UK or the USA like the others available, and have been manufacturing emergency beacons in Australia for over 40 years.
By your stupid comment, you sound like the type of person that does not own one………..
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Follow Up By: Nomadic Navara - Wednesday, Feb 12, 2025 at 10:26
Wednesday, Feb 12, 2025 at 10:26
Maybe so, however, there are very many other instances in cars of where we used to be able to change parts easily, but they are now parts of non-repairable assemblies.
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Follow Up By: Member - LeighW - Wednesday, Feb 12, 2025 at 17:59
Wednesday, Feb 12, 2025 at 17:59
Yep and now unless your a service centre/mechanic etc the going trend is you won't be able to get service info for them.
We now have perfectly good TV you have to scrap as the manufacures only support the smart TV apps for a few years then no longer support so it is either scrap the TV or if you can add another dongle to it to get the support from a third party supplier.
I wonder how long it will be before the car manufactures catch on to that aspect and tell you youll have to purchase a new car as we are no longer supporting the software of your current one:(
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Follow Up By: qldcamper - Thursday, Feb 13, 2025 at 08:19
Thursday, Feb 13, 2025 at 08:19
Laws were passed that motor companies have to make service available to everyone, which they have done but it comes at a price.
Not sure about other brands but Toyota went on a warpath and started prosecuting websites for having copyrighted information free for the taking and everything disappeared.
As for planned obsolescence software wise, when I bought my SR5 new in 2012 the navigation software was several years out of date and Toyota were more than happy to sell me a current SD card for a bit over $300, and this was when the vehicle was only a couple of months old.
I don't know of anyone that couldn't live with it that bought a new card, it was cheaper at the time to replace the head unit with something along the lines of Kenwood entertainment systems and got rid of the rest of the Fujitsu Australian specific limitations as
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Follow Up By: Member - Ups and Downs - Thursday, Feb 13, 2025 at 08:58
Thursday, Feb 13, 2025 at 08:58
'By your stupid comment, you sound like the type of person that does not own one………..'
Wrong again... I have a GME PLB, and a GME handheld UHF, and an in vehicle GME UHF. Not that that has any bearing on my opinion of the battery 'con.'
I also have a VHF which is 6 months old that was inadvertantly left switched on resulting in a battery that won't recharge. Useless unless I buy a new unit or replace the battery as discussed above.
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Follow Up By: Member - LeighW - Thursday, Feb 13, 2025 at 09:56
Thursday, Feb 13, 2025 at 09:56
"Laws were passed that motor companies have to make service available to everyone, which they have done but it comes at a price"
Not the case, my hybrid Toyota for instance has the petrol motor, brakes etc apart from the hybrid electrics side. If you try and access service info for the petrol motor you can only do so on Toyotas website if they deem you suitably qualified to do so. Not sure how even other non Toyota car service centres will satisfy the "suitably qualified" if they haven't been Toyota trained?
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Follow Up By: qldcamper - Thursday, Feb 13, 2025 at 14:57
Thursday, Feb 13, 2025 at 14:57
Interesting Leigh,
What information were you trying to access?
I believe the law was passed following a class action to allow owners access to service information required by repairers in remote areas not serviced by the dealers.
Possibly a case of dealers pushing the boundaries till someone kicks up.
Like you say, who deems someone suitably qualified on brand new technology? If the information is made available any reasonably competant diagnostic technician will be able to apply logic to it and have a high success rate.
The dealers do reserve swapnostics for their own advantage.
20 years ago I had no experience on caterpillar equipment but gaining access to both ET and SIS I am confident that I can diagnose any electrical fault a caterpillar machine encounters. Would I have been deemed a suitably qualified person 20 years ago?
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Follow Up By: Member - LeighW - Sunday, Feb 16, 2025 at 21:21
Sunday, Feb 16, 2025 at 21:21
I was on Toyotas website, I wanted to look at the wiring schematics regarding adding a dash cam and just assumed it would be pay the usual fee for a days access but found as soon as I selected my hybrib model it indicate access only allowed to suitable qualified personal.
It is interesting with hybrids and electric vechicles, they use low voltage and high voltage systems, now in this respect in any other area you need to be a licensed electrician to work on the same but EV's and Hybrids seem to be flying below the radar.
It becomes a
grey area, you do have 300V circuitry which needs to be treated with due respect but I don't see any reason why they should not allow access to 12V circuit schematics for example.
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Follow Up By: qldcamper - Sunday, Feb 16, 2025 at 21:54
Sunday, Feb 16, 2025 at 21:54
I see your point but the dealers being pricks in general will use it to their advantage.
Having said that if you were in a regional area it would be considered normal for the owner to gather the relivant info rather than pay said suitably qualified person $150 plus an hour to do the ground work.
If the hybrid cars are anything like dump trucks the dangerous circuitry will be very
well identified and made in accessable accidentally, but that is what I imagine never having seen the workings of an on road hybrid.
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Reply By: Member - Jim S1 - Friday, Feb 14, 2025 at 11:30
Friday, Feb 14, 2025 at 11:30
Have been thinking about this . I would suspect that because the item is used for rescue/communications , it's not just the battery , but it's all the other electronics , boards etc which would / could probably degrade over time. So it's safer , for the manufacturer and for you , to replace the whole thing after 7 to 10 years , whatever is recommended.
I would think that any manufacturer of safety /communications equipment would insist on a use by date , and that is entirely reasonable.
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Reply By: Member - Ups and Downs - Saturday, Feb 15, 2025 at 09:24
Saturday, Feb 15, 2025 at 09:24
There MAY be safety reasons for insisting that a PLB has to be returned to GME for a new battery.
They use a different scare tactic for a VHF radio.
RE VHF radio:
The battery is a built-in design and is not user serviceable. If the battery requires replacing, the radio should be returned to GME for service to ensure the waterproof integrity of the radio is maintained.
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Reply By: Member - Wozikev - Tuesday, Feb 18, 2025 at 18:36
Tuesday, Feb 18, 2025 at 18:36
Re: GME PLB 406/121.5 Further from Wozikev
My PLB has 4 x Varta CR123A 600mah battery cells. I spoke with Battery World and was told $52 each and an hour labour to solder them in and re assemble $75. So, GME's
Sydney refurbishment price is not so silly after all, but is getting very close to purchase price of a new one, which still seems pretty crazy.
However, purchasing a new one is my best option so I'll start doing some homework.
Cheers ......................... Wozikev.
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Reply By: Gbc.. - Wednesday, Feb 19, 2025 at 05:04
Wednesday, Feb 19, 2025 at 05:04
Anyone having a sook about battery replacement costs would do
well to have a skim over AS 4280.1/2.
Of course being a rescue device, the process is mandated. The whole thing is put on test for days, seals aren’t able to be reused, once resealed it is pressure tested again etc etc.
Surprise surprise. The ones whinging loudest have zero clue of what they actually pay for.
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Reply By: Member - David M (SA) - Wednesday, Feb 19, 2025 at 09:18
Wednesday, Feb 19, 2025 at 09:18
So you spend some time touring remote Australia and for $1 a week you get to carry around a device where if you get into serious trouble, no matter where you are, you press a button and people will come out and assist you. And some people want to have a whinge about the cost.
Dave.
Apologies Rocco, missed yours
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