how dangerous can snatching be?

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Reply By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Monday, Jul 26, 2004 at 23:04

Monday, Jul 26, 2004 at 23:04
OUCH!!!!!!!!
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Reply By: Mad Dog (Victoria) - Monday, Jul 26, 2004 at 23:17

Monday, Jul 26, 2004 at 23:17
Don't forget to include a full crash helmet in ya recovery kit. Maybe a Ned Kelly suit
as well.
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Reply By: Muddy 'doe (SA) - Monday, Jul 26, 2004 at 23:24

Monday, Jul 26, 2004 at 23:24
Praying that this particular Jeep was a RHD model.........
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Follow Up By: chris-ford - Tuesday, Jul 27, 2004 at 15:50

Tuesday, Jul 27, 2004 at 15:50
Yeah.. Looks like..

The windscreen wipers are a dead give-away.

Especially in the UK, Australia and NZ. If you convert a car/truck, you have to change wiper operations to give the driver the wider section of wiped area. Stupid but true.

Chris.
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Reply By: Member Eric - Monday, Jul 26, 2004 at 23:46

Monday, Jul 26, 2004 at 23:46
let me guess , had a d shackle on the end ?
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, Jul 27, 2004 at 09:53

Tuesday, Jul 27, 2004 at 09:53
Theres 2 stories..

This is years old the picture...

If you look just behind the left front tire you can see something there..

one story is that the recovery hook snapped, and became the missile..

The other is yes D shackle.

Looks like a hook to me on ground, but could b wrong.,
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Reply By: Member - Royce- Tuesday, Jul 27, 2004 at 00:10

Tuesday, Jul 27, 2004 at 00:10
They have funny tow hitching points in them vehicles... damn hard to get to!
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Reply By: Mungo Explorer - Tuesday, Jul 27, 2004 at 00:15

Tuesday, Jul 27, 2004 at 00:15
I still shudder when I think of the first time I got bogged on a beach, in my Terios (replaced since) which only had an insubstantial tying down hook. A huge bearded guy with an even huger ute offered his snatch strap to pull me out (of course I didn't have one myself, now rectified) and just couldn't shift me whatever he tried until I discovered I hadn't released my handbrake! Thank god I discovered it myself and not him...
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Reply By: Savvas - Tuesday, Jul 27, 2004 at 08:44

Tuesday, Jul 27, 2004 at 08:44
I tell ya ... one of my first sand trips, I got bogged. We had all the gear and I was snatched out by a mate. But the mistakes we made with the snatching still freaks me a bit.

We used a shackle where we didn't need it. The one that freaks me the most when I think about it is that both cars still had kids in them during the snatch, including one 6 week old baby.

Nothing went wrong that day, but nonetheless you should always exercise caution and keep everyone else clear. We now use blankets over the strap to try and pull it to the ground if something breaks.

Speaking of which, are those specialty "air brakes" or whatever you might call them that ARB and the like sell for winching or snatching worthwhile?
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Follow Up By: Savvas - Tuesday, Jul 27, 2004 at 11:37

Tuesday, Jul 27, 2004 at 11:37
Those "air brakes" are cable winch dampers. Just wondering if they work with snatch straps too.
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Follow Up By: Rosscoe - Tuesday, Jul 27, 2004 at 14:38

Tuesday, Jul 27, 2004 at 14:38
Savvas,

Where did use the shackle that you should not have?

Regards,

Rosscoe
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Follow Up By: chris-ford - Tuesday, Jul 27, 2004 at 15:58

Tuesday, Jul 27, 2004 at 15:58
Hrm..
NO - I think that summs it up!

It won't stop the cable flying through your truck. The physics of the situation are startling.

You are talking about an elastic strap with upwards of 8 tons of stored energy and a projectile weight of 1 or so Kg's? That's the shackle and the strap end that's not in contact with the ground.

The aerobreaking that you will get will be minimal, but everything helps.

I rather use a blanket and arrestor cables made from plasma. If it does go wrong, the arrestor cable prevents the broken end from leaving in a hurry - It gives the strap 5 metres of play before the cables run together, stopping everything in it's tracks.

Similar principle to the 4x4 monthly article a few years ago.

Also, a cargo barrier helps - If it does try to get through, there should be a significant reduction in speed - hopefully allowing you to live....

Another thing is to NEVER use shackles! A fishing and four-wheel driving show I saw a few weeks ago on commercial TV showed Moonies mob putting a bow shackle on the front of a 4800 Patrol! Sillybleeps!

The only thing you need to join snatch straps is a news paper....
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Follow Up By: Savvas - Tuesday, Jul 27, 2004 at 16:20

Tuesday, Jul 27, 2004 at 16:20
I put a shackle on the open recovery hook at the rear of my vehicle. However, it was an open hook that didn't require a shackle for snatching.

So the point is that it was not needed in the first place.
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Reply By: Member - Royce- Tuesday, Jul 27, 2004 at 10:04

Tuesday, Jul 27, 2004 at 10:04
And my son got terribly bogged [shouldn't have been there....no licence, just dumb mates]. I snatched him out... but forgot to mention that I needed to gun my vehicle and that his would leap out of the bog after a pause. One of his mates thought it was all over and stepped forward in between the two vehicles. Luckily his reflexes were quick enough to get back out of the way of the hurtling shortie. Yes ... I had warned them to keep clear... but we are talking about teenagers.
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Reply By: Member - Brian (Gold Coast) - Tuesday, Jul 27, 2004 at 18:44

Tuesday, Jul 27, 2004 at 18:44
This photo gets passed around the newbies at our clubs awareness day each month. The Jeep was he "Snatcher" and the recovery point on the "Snatchee" let go. The shackle went through the rear window, out the front window and the jeep ran over it!

Gotta be careful with them snatch straps!!!

And just remind yourselves every now and then about the poor b*****d at Ormeau last year...............
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Reply By: Bonz (Vic) - Tuesday, Jul 27, 2004 at 21:47

Tuesday, Jul 27, 2004 at 21:47
We tried to pull a truck out of a mud bog at work, snatch strap, length of steel cable and a run up and the "tongue on the stuck truck pulled out/broke off, flew almost 100 metres and pucked a hole thru the back of the bucket truck and the plastic liner inside the bucket. All this about 8 ft off the ground. lucky we didnt kill someone. I can email the pics to Trucky if you want to see them
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Reply By: MAVERICK(WA) - Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 05:17

Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 05:17
if it really was off road and bogged how does it keep its tyres so shiny????? rgds
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