Public access roads and Private roads look and route the same.

Submitted: Sunday, May 25, 2025 at 11:01
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Public access roads and Private roads look and route the same
I have found that the Traveller navigator will route me through a private property, rather than the public road. Both are red dotted lines.
The difference is difficult to tell on the map, particularly on unsealed roads like the Plenty highway.
Is there a setting to better delineate between public access and private property tracks?

(Thanks to the staff at Manners Creek for allowing me to continue through their holding yards and outstation tracks, as routed between the Plenty Highway -20k west of Tobermory and the Urandangi state Border road in July 2024)
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Reply By: Member - Duncan2H - Sunday, May 25, 2025 at 13:47

Sunday, May 25, 2025 at 13:47
I dont trust any routing from a piece of software at all in remote areas. Routing is for towns and cities.
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Follow Up By: Member - Warren H - Sunday, May 25, 2025 at 15:35

Sunday, May 25, 2025 at 15:35
Absolutely agree, for large cities even if I know the way, I use Google for the traffic awareness, routing around issues and if I mess up.
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Reply By: Bushranger1 - Sunday, May 25, 2025 at 14:02

Sunday, May 25, 2025 at 14:02
Agree with Duncan.
Due to high detail of Traveller there are lots of ways to get to a destination.
I only use navigation by using my own selected waypoints to force the system to take my desired route after investigating my options.
In fact some routes the Traveller app maps out are more practical than Google Maps routes!
To be honest I have such flexible travel plans I rarely use any navigation options anyway.
I make it up as I go.

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Reply By: Member - Warren H - Sunday, May 25, 2025 at 15:42

Sunday, May 25, 2025 at 15:42
A few years ago I was planning a Hay River Track trip N->S. It was clear that the generated route was using station tracks rather than the Plenty Highway. All the apps suffer from the same issue. Google maps will take you down narrow boundary roads where you only need to encounter a farmer moving a piece of machinery for the notional minute saved will disappear not to mention the added twists and turns.
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Follow Up By: Bushranger1 - Sunday, May 25, 2025 at 16:25

Sunday, May 25, 2025 at 16:25
Google maps navigation to a popular Conservation reserve near home!
Ha ha. The Blue roadside signs take you a sensible way.
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Reply By: Briste - Monday, May 26, 2025 at 09:20

Monday, May 26, 2025 at 09:20
In situations like this I like to also rely on the Hema maps in the Memory Maps app. I assume you want Urandangi Road, which is more clearly indicated in that combo, although some of the Hema maps also show the track you presumably took, but it's still clear which the main route is. In my experience Traveller is best in some situations and MM/Hema is best in others.
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil D13 - Monday, May 26, 2025 at 19:27

Monday, May 26, 2025 at 19:27
Agree, I did also use the old Hema Explorer as it delineated public roads well, but it no longer works. I presume MM can

However, the roads on Exploreoz are not as well defined.
This is particularly so when trying to navigate on a bumpy road such as the Plenty Highway.

It does not sound like there is a map setting that changes this.
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Reply By: ExplorOz - David & Michelle - Monday, May 26, 2025 at 10:18

Monday, May 26, 2025 at 10:18
I just tested the autorouter from Tobermorey camp to the marker and it took the correct route - the map without routing also clearly shows the urandangi road - labelled/named and highlighted as a thicker red road than the very fine station track (you can also see the station fence lines, bore etc).

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Follow Up By: Member - Phil D13 - Monday, May 26, 2025 at 19:35

Monday, May 26, 2025 at 19:35
Thanks for the guidance..
I can see the difference between the dotted lines. I presume the thin dotted line in the map legend denotes a non-public road?

The auto-router was made from Alice Springs to Urandangi, en-route whilst still online., but the route disappeared from Traveller at the Manners Creek holding yards. By then I'd realised that I was definitely on private land.

I am guessing that I would be better off creating a Trek on my desktop.



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Follow Up By: ExplorOz - David & Michelle - Tuesday, May 27, 2025 at 10:28

Tuesday, May 27, 2025 at 10:28
Phil – I created this on my phone, but it really makes no difference which device you use – the software works the same across all platforms. You can use the webapp to sync a saved Trek back to your phone, but that’s an extra step that isn’t necessary if you’re confident moving around using Places.

Just a note on routing: it’s entirely dependent on the Places you select. In this case, I didn’t choose the station (Manners Creek); instead, I selected the junction at the top of Urandangi Rd and Tobermorey Campground, knowing those would give the most accurate route guidance, as they sit directly on the main road.

Also, while the land shading (white), fencing, bores, and station names (like Manners Creek) suggest the track crosses station property, it's important to understand that individual station policies on access vary. Our mapping doesn't—and can’t—reflect those access rules. As a topographic map producer, our responsibility is to show known tracks regardless of access status, since many non-recreational users (e.g. emergency services, land managers) also depend on accurate map data for planning and response.

While the Traveller app using EOTopo is marketed primarily to recreational users, the maps are not limited to depicting only publicly accessible routes.

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